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apricotslice · Post by **apricotslice** » Wed, 14. Mar 12, 07:38

Its been a long time since I bothered reading a 24 page thread all the way through.

Litcube, I'd no idea you had done even a tenth of that list way back when.

I've downloaded this and will try it as soon as I get a games computer back, due to mine dropping dead the other day. If its good, I'll probably include it in my AP AMS mod, when I also add Bounce into it.

Charon_A · Post by **Charon_A** » Wed, 6. Jun 12, 18:33

This is some awesome piece ow work here, Litcube!
Thanks a lot! Will start using it and will report if I notice anything weird

kurush · Post by **kurush** » Thu, 7. Jun 12, 08:06

I was running this replacement in AP for several game days without problems and then I suddenly got a lockup with the game freezing up seconds after reload. I panicked, removed the files and loaded an earlier save. I ended up with about 10 FPS loss in the next hour (comparing 35-40 vs 45-50 in UFJD sector). How long does it take for ships to start using new tasks? Also, any ideas how I can troubleshoot potential lockups? I am not running any major mods or script packages.

Litcube · Post by **Litcube** » Thu, 7. Jun 12, 14:36

kurush wrote:I was running this replacement in AP for several game days without problems and then I suddenly got a lockup with the game freezing up seconds after reload. I panicked, removed the files and loaded an earlier save. I ended up with about 10 FPS loss in the next hour (comparing 35-40 vs 45-50 in UFJD sector). How long does it take for ships to start using new tasks? Also, any ideas how I can troubleshoot potential lockups? I am not running any major mods or script packages.

It's funny you say this.

Was it during a possible confrontation? I.E. were there pirates, xenon, kha'ak in the sector? Or two foes in the sector close to each other?

kurush · Post by **kurush** » Thu, 7. Jun 12, 18:09

Litcube wrote: It's funny you say this.

Why?

Litcube wrote: Was it during a possible confrontation? I.E. were there pirates, xenon, kha'ak in the sector? Or two foes in the sector close to each other?

It was in an empty UFJD sector about 20 sec after jumping in. It was reproducible from a save game that I was stupid enough to overwrite. Now I decided not to panic and restored the rewrite, so far so good. I am not saying they are related, just asking for possible hints how to better troubleshoot it. The FPS gain is awesome.

Litcube · Post by **Litcube** » Thu, 7. Jun 12, 18:22

I have discovered a very rare possible infinite loop. I'll be fixing it soon.

joelR · Post by **joelR** » Thu, 7. Jun 12, 19:38

Litcube wrote:I have discovered a very rare possible infinite loop. I'll be fixing it soon.

I was getting it in AP as well.

After removing the scripts it stopped.

Litcube · Post by **Litcube** » Thu, 7. Jun 12, 19:44

The problem with those types of bugs is that it could be from anywhere.

I isolated a save that would present the lockup in 12 seconds. With that I used elimination to get the issue down to two ships, and two scripts. That took 3 hours.

Alkeena · Post by **Alkeena** » Thu, 7. Jun 12, 21:59

First, I want to say that I immensely appreciate all the work you've put into this, and other scripts.

On to the report.

So I just gave it a go in an install of AP-XRM. I'm also using a bevy of other mods/script packages (including some custom stuff) that I've played with for about 20 hours so far without issue.

This appears to break the command "Attack Target Nearest" which is the command that I use in lieu of defend ship. I believe this may be an AP only command (as I don't recall it in TC, but then it's been quite some time...). Anyway, instead of proactively seeking out potential aggressors the escorts simply remain in formation, even while their lead is being shot at.

Litcube · Post by **Litcube** » Thu, 7. Jun 12, 22:28

Alkeena wrote:This appears to break the command "Attack Target Nearest" which is the command that I use in lieu of defend ship. I believe this may be an AP only command (as I don't recall it in TC, but then it's been quite some time...). Anyway, instead of proactively seeking out potential aggressors the escorts simply remain in formation, even while their lead is being shot at.

Hm... I'll look into that.

kurush · Post by **kurush** » Mon, 18. Jun 12, 20:19

Hi Litcube, I don't suppose you are testing that fix you mentioned several days ago?

I finally got to the point when all my recent saves produce a freeze after some time. I tried to kill all ships in the universe that are docked along with their homebase ships and for some reason it didn't help. Any ideas what criteria can I use to isolate the ships that have this command running?

Litcube · Post by **Litcube** » Mon, 18. Jun 12, 20:37

Still haven't been home yet.

Charon_A · Post by **Charon_A** » Tue, 19. Jun 12, 15:37

I'd like to add that in addition to "Attack nearest target of" two more commands are not working in AP:
- Attack my target
- Attack target of

Not that we can't live without those, I perfectly well did till now, but still, if you're gonna fix one - why not fix all

Thanks!

Litcube · Post by **Litcube** » Tue, 19. Jun 12, 16:01

Yup. Good points, all.

Charon_A · Post by **Charon_A** » Tue, 19. Jun 12, 19:04

Some time ago I downloaded Missile Safety script by Gazz .
Only today I got to install it and saw in changelog that Gazz implements almost the same things in the !move.follow.template as you do, Litcube.
You may find it interesting perhaps

kurush · Post by **kurush** » Thu, 19. Jul 12, 18:42

Charon_A wrote: Only today I got to install it and saw in changelog that Gazz implements almost the same things in the !move.follow.template as you do, Litcube.

@Charon_A: did you get a similar huge FPS boost on SETA from Gazz script as this one provides? I really miss my 15 FPS on SETA now when I had to remove it because of freezes. 4 FPS suck.

Litcube · Post by **Litcube** » Thu, 19. Jul 12, 18:50

I think I did fix it. Gimme a minute.

Litcube · Post by **Litcube** » Thu, 19. Jul 12, 19:01

Vanilla Rewrite 0.37b:
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- Fixed: Infinite loop created under certain circumstances within combat.

joelR · Post by **joelR** » Fri, 20. Jul 12, 04:44

Thanks litcube.

qwizzie · Post by **qwizzie** » Fri, 20. Jul 12, 06:30

hi Litcube, can you tell me a lil bit more about that fixed Infinite loop...
because i recently installed yr scripts and got very early on in a new game
a message that an Infinite loop was detected and script had to be closed ?

Does this mean the Vanilla Rewrite stops working then or is it just the fix informing us about the found infinite loop? and do we keep getting these messages whenever it detects it?

thnks,

qwizzie

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