Cockpit Callback Version x14 --- STILL works with X3 v2.5

[Shada]

Er. I've noticed something here.

Take a look at these screens:

Inside Cockpit
Outside Cockpit

Look at the backdrop and scenery through the cockpit, and then from outside the cockpit. It's very bright when inside, and normal when outside. This is using medium shaders with medium textures and glow off.

Anyone else seeing this in their game? Or is it just me? :/

[alanlej]

Anyone else seeing this in their game? Or is it just me? :/

Actually, it does that to me too, it seems brighter and sometimes even slightly "blueish" with cockpits on

[djssuk]

See the comments above from Galaxy, one states something about cockpit lighting, perhapps that is it.

'Imp.- (that German guy) found that putting "940" as a Main Body ID just like in X2 gave the Cockpit Lighting.'

[Terror_Squid]

Er. I've noticed something here.

Take a look at these screens:

Inside Cockpit
Outside Cockpit

Look at the backdrop and scenery through the cockpit, and then from outside the cockpit. It's very bright when inside, and normal when outside. This is using medium shaders with medium textures and glow off.

Anyone else seeing this in their game? Or is it just me? :/

What happens when you roll the ship; does the blue hue move across the cockpit canopy? If you were close to a light source, like a planet, maybe the game simulates reflections on the cockpit glass, so you were seeing some reflected light from a planet.

[Galaxy613]

Some cockpits (such as the M3 and M5 ones) have glass. Thus they recive light and make everything else look brighter. You know when you get a glare on your car window? It's like that.

BTW, I uploaded a fixed CC2X131, the space suit now has it's cockpit and turrets work. If they do not just go to a different sector and then they should work if everything you try doesn't work.

Just re-download it and replace the old .cat and .dat with the new ones.

[obi-HERMITMAN]

That's fantastic galaxy (and impy!). I haven't used the full mod, I just used your advice and modified the Tships file to use the main body ID of 940, this was so I could merge it with mehrunes m6 upgrade mod. It's worked a treat with my dragon atleast dunno about anything else yet tho, so I could have screwed up a fair bit!

I take it that only the main body ID needed changing? Or were there other tweaks?

Once again very nice find, especially to have it work with 1.3

[Galaxy613]

Nope, what you changed for the Dragon applys to ever other ship there.

[Twelvefield]

Galaxy:

I still get black cockpits. The original Cockpit Callback worked perfectly for me until the official 1.3 patch. Then I got the black cockpits. Reducing shaders to medium got some primitive lighting back, but I lost glows. Unacceptable. I dropped the cockpits altogether, boosted the shaders again. I've downloaded CC2X131, and put it in the MODS folder, deleting the old CC files. I've had the X3 start page select the CC2X131 mod. I have black cockpits again.

Obviously, I've missed doing something correctly. Can you please help me troubleshoot this problem? Thanks.

Radeon X800 GTO
3 GHz P4 HT
1 G RAM
Win XP sp2

[Galaxy613]

What did you do when you went in-game and tested the new version? Did you just load up a save game, saw that they are black, and backed down? If you did then that's your problem right there. Go back to that save game and goto a different sector. I am almost 90% that they WILL be fixed by doing this.

[NZ-Wanderer]

Any chance you could put up exactly what you edited etc? as I would like to edit the M6 mod so I get my coloured cockpits back in that..
I know I have to edit the tships file (where's that located) and change something..
( I using v1.3 since I got no real reason to use the beta version)

[Galaxy613]

The magic thing to getting cockpits working in 1.3 is setting 940 as the main body ID. Which if you save the tShips file as a Text file via X3 Editor, it will be the first value.

After that you'll need to copy the 04512.bod file from objects\cut and uncomment the cockpit parts in it and put it in your mod. Then all you have to do is give each ship it's proper cockpit depending on it's class and you should be set!

Here are the cockpit BOD numbers based on class:

Code: Select all

4514	M1
4513	M2
4512	M3
4510	M4
4511	M5
4518	M6
4515	TS
4516	TL
4517	TP

[Seven05]

The magic thing to getting cockpits working in 1.3 is setting 940 as the main body ID. Which if you save the tShips file as a Text file via X3 Editor, it will be the first value.

That's the only part you need to worry about in Mehrunes mod

[NZ-Wanderer]

Many thanks for the replies guys, much appreciated....
Only one more little question then I'll go play....

Everyone talks about "tships" file.... - is this a file in itself? or is it embedded in the M6 Mod, or is it somewhere else??

Sorry for the noob type questions

[Seven05]

Grab Doubleshadow's X3 Mod Manager or Editor and work with the version of TShips that is in the M6 mod. Mehrune already merged it with the CC mod so that much is done for you. I prefer to extract the file with the mod manager and work with it in a text editor most of the time so I'm not sure how easy or hard it would be in the X3 editor, I think there may also be a bug in the latest X3 editor with TShips.

But yeah, extract the file (the mod manager will give you the option of decompressing when you extract, do that) and make your changes. Then, put it back in (again the mod manager will give you the option of compressing it, do that). I'd just post the fix but I'm using a personally tweaked version of it for myself so it wouldn't be appropriate.

[NZ-Wanderer]

Thanks for the explaination, I'll go have a play now

Edit: Am in my text editor now and am looking at the file.. - Line 1 has 2 numbers

48;210;

I presume it is the "48" that I change to "940"??

[obi-HERMITMAN]

Nope, what you changed for the Dragon applys to ever other ship there.

no worries I already did them all not just my own ship!

[obi-HERMITMAN]

Erm no leave those alone, it's only lines that apply to ships that you change- ie most of the lines after those two bits that all start with a 0 (hint makesure you have word wrap off!)

Or I can email you the updated file (whole m6 mod with updated cockpits). The only thing I ain't sure if I did right was the turrets- buts thats only if separate editing partway thru each ships line had to be done to get the turrets to br lit...

[NZ-Wanderer]

Hmmm now I'm confused (which is quite easy to do)

what was said above was:

The magic thing to getting cockpits working in 1.3 is setting 940 as the main body ID. Which if you save the tShips file as a Text file via X3 Editor, it will be the first value.

That's the only part you need to worry about in Mehrunes mod

The way I read that, is to turn the light on I only have to edit one thing...

Am I wrong in my thinking??

Erm no leave those alone, it's only lines that apply to ships that you change- ie most of the lines after those two bits that all start with a 0 (hint makesure you have word wrap off!)
Or I can email you the updated file (whole m6 mod with updated cockpits). The only thing I ain't sure if I did right was the turrets- buts thats only if separate editing partway thru each ships line had to be done to get the turrets to br lit...

[obi-HERMITMAN]

Yes you do, unfortunately you have to edit that one thing for each ship....

each gets a line or more in the Tships file.

Ive emailed you the fixed version, either use it or look and compare the Tships files to do yourself

[NZ-Wanderer]

Thanks - much appreciated, will save me quite a bit of work....