Still no sign of cockpits

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Post by Bane_v2 »

No cockpits? Fine by me. 3rd > 1st all day every day.
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Roger L.S. Griffiths wrote:Does this mean flight will be arcade style third person?
Only if you choose it to be. There are plenty of shots on the SOTD thread of internal views, with HUD and all the other new information stored on the screen.
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Roger L.S. Griffiths wrote:
The_Abyss wrote:To be honest, I'm surprised to see the cockpit debate still going on, as it was confirmed in several interviews at the summer Games Convention in Leipzig that there would not be any cockpits in X3.
Does this mean flight will be arcade style third person?
No, it means Abyss is trying to be funny...
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red assassin wrote:Realistically, you wouldn't be flying your ship from the most exposed position possible, seperated from that horde of crazed Split by only a layer of glass/plastic/whatever anyway, you'd be in the depths of your ship watching holographic projectors or monitors or whatever.
Strange how most sci-fi movies depict some form of exposed cockpit from which the ship is commanded :gruebel:

But, good point :D
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EvilLord wrote:
Roger L.S. Griffiths wrote:
The_Abyss wrote:To be honest, I'm surprised to see the cockpit debate still going on, as it was confirmed in several interviews at the summer Games Convention in Leipzig that there would not be any cockpits in X3.
Does this mean flight will be arcade style third person?
No, it means Abyss is trying to be funny...
Well, I don't think he's joking about that.

I guess we will be flying Freespace style, we still have the HUD so even without the cockpit it's not neccessary arcade style third person. :)
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No, it means Abyss is trying to be funny...
Hopefully. The previous three had cockpits, and X³ will be missing a feature dear to my heart if it's true :(
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Post by Sam L.R. Griffiths »

EvilLord wrote:
Roger L.S. Griffiths wrote:
The_Abyss wrote:To be honest, I'm surprised to see the cockpit debate still going on, as it was confirmed in several interviews at the summer Games Convention in Leipzig that there would not be any cockpits in X3.
Does this mean flight will be arcade style third person?
No, it means Abyss is trying to be funny...
Stare long enough into the Abyss and the Abyss stares back at you :P
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Post by Banana Split »

You can still see your ship can't you? Is it just the cockpit model that's gone (leaving views like this) or is your ship invisible from the internal view (like this)?
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Banana Split wrote:You can still see your ship can't you? Is it just the cockpit model that's gone (leaving views like this) or is your ship invisible from the internal view (like this)?
As I said I believe it will be Freespace style
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Post by Lazerath »

Well I for one am totally disappointed with Egosoft at the moment. I love the fact they've done so much with the game and added lots of cool new things. I also realize some of you out there don't give a rats Ass that they removed the cockpits from the game.

However I would wager a guess that probably 50 percent of the people who play these types of games prefer to have them in. So I am officially BITCHING about it in hopes that you guys add it in a patch.

I've played a lot of space sims and the ones with out a cockpit (for the most part) take so much away from the game.

Someone else mentioned something about telling the difference between flying an M1 or an M5 (or something).. Meh.. I better stop.. Its just that I am so disappointed that one of my fav things in X2 is no longer in X3. I loved flying my M5 then my M2 and watching the front of the ship through the cockpit as I flew threw asteroid fields or slammed into puuuuny little ships.

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Mightysword wrote:
Banana Split wrote:You can still see your ship can't you? Is it just the cockpit model that's gone (leaving views like this) or is your ship invisible from the internal view (like this)?
As I said I believe it will be Freespace style
please elaborate, for those of us who havent played freespace.
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Post by Chestnut Stallion »

Agreed!
I am the one who mentiond about the diffrence between m1 / m3 ..

Ya see.. you wont have that feeling of "Im in something HUGE and powerful!" ... ..

I am unhappy that Cockpits are not in x3.
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Post by RavenIII »

I must admit... I'm a little disappointed... but I will change this and say that it's an improvement in another sense as it lets you see more of the pretty graphics :shock: It's the best I can come up with to ease my pain... and I really do hope you're joking abyss... but my deep sense says you are not!
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hex40k wrote:
Mightysword wrote:
Banana Split wrote:You can still see your ship can't you? Is it just the cockpit model that's gone (leaving views like this) or is your ship invisible from the internal view (like this)?
As I said I believe it will be Freespace style
please elaborate, for those of us who havent played freespace.

Already did, you get a HUD, just no cocpit, and it's not third person.

http://www.freespace2.com/screenshots.cfm


look at the first few screenshots.
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Post by Creston »

What? No cockpits???

So let me get this straight. In X2, we have one cockpit per ship class, and everyone hates it, and begs for different cockpits for each and every type of ship, even within the same class.

And your answer to that cry for more variety is to CAN all cockpits, thereby making EVERYTHING look the same?

Errrr...okay :(

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Post by Skeeter »

The_Abyss wrote:To be honest, I'm surprised to see the cockpit debate still going on, as it was confirmed in several interviews at the summer Games Convention in Leipzig that there would not be any cockpits in X3.
Damn then im definately NOT getting x3 i dont give a monkeys what x3 gfx has or hud i like x games cos of playing them in cockpit more than anything. We saw in a topic for the german gaming convention thing lezaped or whatever that there was cockpit in but one of the devs said it was a placeholder which we all thought was till new cockpits were done. This is so bad news im so going to play.com and cancelling my preorder and you have effectivly ruined a good space game by not doing cockpits as it was the best thing in the x series with the varied cockpits for each ship (although was let down a bit in x2 with 1 per class but still better than nowt). The new cockpits were the most looked forward to part of x3. Im utterly deverstated by this news.

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Post by Cougaris »

In the dev's defence, adding the cockpit models would take a substantial amount of the art dept's resources (even if its outsourced..sort of). The chances of seeing it in a patch are very, very slim - such content would be the purview of an expansion.

Its not a question of easy X-box tactics, but rather an issue of deadline to meet versus work involved in developing a unique cockpit for every ship in the game.
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Post by Al »

I fail to see how not having cockpits can ruin a game. For those who believe it will why not wait for the demo then make an informed choice. Remember that most folks slated FL for not having joystick support but when they actually tried the mouse control they found it was pretty good. See what I'm getting at?

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Post by Mightysword »

But to the Egosofian, there were someshot that the cockpits are used as place holder, can we just get those in the. I know they're the old one from X2 but you know, at least something is still better then nothing. :wink:
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Post by sharp78 »

to be honest, one of the first things i looked for in the options menu in x2, was how to turn off cockpits, so i'm not that bothered. I found the x2 ones took up too much viewspace.

perhaps everyone who wants cockpits could make ones out of card and stick them on their monitor :wink:

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