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Post by Lord_Darkstar »

I remember looking to see what my starting "Goner" ranking was when I flew through CBSW the first time. It was "Accepted Member 9%" AIR. I hadn't completed Mission 1. (Heck, I hadn't flow into Terra HQ at that time).

I think that it shows up like any other race ranking... the first time you enter a Goner sector or see a Goner ship.

Most people's Goner rankings just aren't going to go up very often. You only buy Salvage Insurace (not needed unless you spend ours away from NPC stations), Transporters, and Jump Drives from them. And if you don't dock at the station often, you don't check their boards, do you?

I put a jump drive into all my ships that can hold one. And I put transporters on all my ships, period. I didn't start out that way. I used to put transporters only on "Personal" ships. But these days, I just find it easier to give it to a ship that might never need either then need it and have to run stuff around to get it. So I do a lot of business with the Goners. And my rank goes up accordingly. But the higher that rank, the slower it goes up...
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Post by KipperTheFish »

Once you get to Preacher 6% you are on the second highest rating there is with the Goners (highest is "Protector of the Goner") so there is no real need to go any higher.
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Post by giskard »

Kipper: I agree there 6% and 22% at preacher are the only 2 ranks ive finished at with Gonar and once ive reached one of them its stayed set in stone for the rest of the game.

Here is a question for you.

Have you seen your gonar ranks go up by one rank at a time or did they make a big jump to preacher like they did in my game ?

Also once at preacher, how many salvage insurance or jump drives have you brought and have you seen it move even 1% when you did ?

I certainly have seen no increase due to buying stuff from the gonar temple and since my fleet in my old save game (9 months of playing) all had jump drives and since I used to buy salvage insurance 100 at a time Id expect to have seen it move slightly at some point.

So my bet goes with the gonar rank being linked to the campaign not sales.

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Post by KipperTheFish »

I have never seen my goner rep change.........never noticed till I had finished the plot.....i.ve bought insurance..........jumpers........and saved a goner ship from certain destruction by the khaak (ungratful git)........rep has NEVER budged!!
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Post by Lord_Darkstar »

I was playing around with some restarts and payed attention to when the Goner stuff first showed up.

The first time I saw a Goner ship, Goner ranking showed up. It was Goner Accepted Member 0%. Buying a transporter from the Goner, and it increased quite a lot.

So, plot may grant you some bonuses to your Goner rank, but it does behave like any race relations.
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Post by Rathgar »

I also am getting increases from buying items from the Goners. I haven't gone to their temple yet in the plotline this game (finished the second mission and then stole off on my own). I try to buy my jumpdrives from them EXCLUSIVELY so that I can recover the rep losses I get from capping their missionaries.

By the way, some of the best lines I have heard in game have come while talking to the goners:
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Post by BrigandPhantos »

don't forget goners don't get attacked by khaak either........
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Post by Lord_Darkstar »

Not true. Goners will get attacked... but, as they have no weapons, they don't shot at any passing Xenon or Khaak ship. This helps them stay out of trouble. But you will occasionally find a mad Xenon or Khaak cluster attacking a Goner ship.
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Post by Medic279 »

Goner rank is definitely plot related - had a restart quite recently and have been ploughing through the plot again and watching the rise in Goner rank.
I wonder if 'The Return' will increase this rank from preacher upwards to the stratospheric levels of Protector
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Post by Jyn »

My Goner rank has always increased with my Argon rank, the more I trade with the Argon, the more my Goner rank goes up...even when attacking the Goners for their ships...weird no?
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Post by KipperTheFish »

Have you finished the game Jyn?
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Post by Jyn »

a few times. And in all my games, it ahs always done that...
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Post by scary pete »

why dosent some one e-mail or ask a programmer who wrote the code for the goner? im shure they would tell its not like a big thing

also if it is broken maybe they dont know or bringing it to there attention will inspire them to do some thing more creative with it

oh and if there is a protecter of the goner status has any one reached it can you prove it how did you do it

and if its not poss to reach it whats the point of having it?

just my thoughts :?
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Post by giskard »

I played my last game for 9 months and still didnt finish it.

Mind you my goals in X2 dont end with the plot :)

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Post by caenis hilaris »

I don't participate in the plot. I bought this game to relive my misspent youth of playing Elite. My Goner rank appeared after blowing up some pirates in CBSW and is steadily climbing with my Argon rank. I spend most of my time capping pirates, and I employ 1 sector trader in Argon space. I figure his trading is raising my rank, even though I'm not trading with the Goners.
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Post by Tecnofreak »

Mine has been stuck at the standard 6% a long long time now.
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I could use some help, and fast.

Finally got some nice ships, my M2, lots of fabs, etc. but i want to finish the plot again so i can buy the specs for the khaak, for the hell of it. but when i check my goner rank its at disloyal member 46%. ie im on the mission where you dock at the goner temple...and ive got docking denied, effectively halting the plot. how can you increase it enough to get on with the plot? if I cant sort this soon I'll have to try bullying them. I wonder if the goner temple respawns?
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Well, looks like killing the temple doesn't work. much like the gates, it's immortal. take the hull to 0 and it keeps on living. they are more than determined, they are plain obsessed
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Post by giskard »

The plot seems to be only way to make your goner rank go up.

Lots of ways to make it go down though.

So if youve annoyed the goners already i think you can safely say they are enemies for life now.

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well if the plot is the only way to make it go up...and i cant do the plot unless i can get it up...then what. I have absolutely no intention of restarting again just because some goner thinks he's better than me. I'll wipe them out first lol
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