Lets be realistic

[wildragon55]

It is probably going to be bugged but hopefully playable. Either way, I do enjoy X4 as it is my first X game.

[Falcrack]

What exactly is the point of this poll??? Why even make it in the first place?

[Warnoise]

Realistically they won't make it in time. Look at how much time 2.6 is taking. Considering the amount of fixes the 3.0 will bring, they will need at least a couple of months of beta testing (and that's an optimistic estimation) to get it to a working condition.

Not every one has low standards here, majority of people want a working game for the money they spent.

[Nort The Fragrent]

History has the answer, need I say more. !

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[Falcrack]

Realistically they won't make it in time. Look at how much time 2.6 is taking. Considering the amount of fixes the 3.0 will bring, they will need at least a couple of months of beta testing (and that's an optimistic estimation) to get it to a working condition.

Not every one has low standards here, majority of people want a working game for the money they spent.

They could release 2.6 as official right now, or 2 weeks ago for that matter, but they are just being extra super cautious.

[Kpla Keltak]

What exactly is the point of this poll??? Why even make it in the first place?

polls are done to get information. in this case to find out peoples thoughts hopes or expectations.
I am very surprised at how optimistic everyone is.

[Buzz2005]

people that go to this forum tend to be more optimistic about this game

[Buzz2005]

Realistically they won't make it in time. Look at how much time 2.6 is taking. Considering the amount of fixes the 3.0 will bring, they will need at least a couple of months of beta testing (and that's an optimistic estimation) to get it to a working condition.

Not every one has low standards here, majority of people want a working game for the money they spent.

They could release 2.6 as official right now, or 2 weeks ago for that matter, but they are just being extra super cautious.

we could get 3.0 beta right after 2.6 official

[Angsaar]

Look at how much time 2.6 is taking.

Software development is non-linear and parallel, correlating time to release 2.6 to time to release 3.0 is a flawed assessment. Would be more accurate to say 2.6 is taking the time it is because resources were allocated to 3.0 instead.

I'm sure Egosoft are better at 'multi-threading' than X4 is

[Slashman]

Look at how much time 2.6 is taking.

Software development is non-linear and parallel, correlating time to release 2.6 to time to release 3.0 is a flawed assessment. Would be more accurate to say 2.6 is taking the time it is because resources were allocated to 3.0 instead.

I'm sure Egosoft are better at 'multi-threading' than X4 is

Or at least better than most people's understanding of multithreading.

[Angsaar]

Or at least better than most people's understanding of multithreading.

Certainly!

Life's too short for the wibbly-wobbly of logical cores, cache, schedulers, what is linear, what is parallel... we're here for the pew-pew

[csaba]

Option 2 is my bet.

I think 2.6 and 3.0/DLC are different teams so it shouldn't affect release dates.

[ballti]

3.0 ≠ DLC?

[csaba]

3.0 ≠ DLC?

Yes?

The DLC probably needs 3.0 to function.

3.0 doesn't need the DLC to function.

E.G. some of the new ships/factions might need some commands from 3.0 to work properly. Hence I think 3.0/DLC are done conjunctly by a different team with likely overlaps with the 2.6 team.

Wasn't this the case for XR?

[Cdaragorn]

I love how your implication of saying "let's be realistic" attempts to bias the results of the poll in favor of a pessimistic outlook.

you got me.
but the pole results are surprising me.
I cant believe how optimistic people are based on our experience so far.

I'm not. You appear to be judging their history in only the sense that the release product always has a lot of bugs in it. But your question is about whether they will get 3.0 out in time or not. That's a very different question. And looking at Ego's history with release dates they pretty much always hit them in large part because they refuse to give any dates until they are sure they can hit it.

[Ezarkal]

I chose option 2+

-Yes, I believe 3.0 and DLC will be out by the end of the year.
-Yes there will be bugs.
-Yes, the bugs will be fixed with a few quick patches. This is Egosoft, not EA.

[Skeeter]

Im just wondering is the new map sectors because of the 3.0 or the dlc. If dlc then those without the dlc might get a little mad if they have been wanting a bigger map but didnt want the dlc. Pretty sure most new sectors will be split so makes sense that it will require the dlc. So it will be interesting to see how that plays out.

[csaba]

Im just wondering is the new map sectors because of the 3.0 or the dlc. If dlc then those without the dlc might get a little mad if they have been wanting a bigger map but didnt want the dlc. Pretty sure most new sectors will be split so makes sense that it will require the dlc. So it will be interesting to see how that plays out.

I'd expect 100% of new sectors being in the DLC as was with XR. Maybe 1-2 new unaligned sectors but you have to keep in mind that anything connecting to the split sectors will need double checks in that case so it's more likely there will be none for the base game.

Although it would be hilarious if they put in an unaligned sector where a giant ad sign in an inactive gate would read: "Insufficient credits to complete this transaction."

What bothers me is venture ships. What would happen if someone sent a split ship and the receiver only had the base game?

[Tomonor]

Im just wondering is the new map sectors because of the 3.0 or the dlc. If dlc then those without the dlc might get a little mad if they have been wanting a bigger map but didnt want the dlc. Pretty sure most new sectors will be split so makes sense that it will require the dlc. So it will be interesting to see how that plays out.

It's no secret and there's no point in working yourself up over this - it's confirmed that the bigger universe will be introduced by the DLC, not by the 3.0 version.

What bothers me is venture ships. What would happen if someone sent a split ship and the receiver only had the base game?

Absolutely nothing for a very simple reason: vanilla game gets the DLC content too - you just won't be able to access the DLC content yourself.

[Shehriazad]

What bothers me is venture ships. What would happen if someone sent a split ship and the receiver only had the base game?

Probably the same that happened with ships that got exploited into ventures even though they weren't released to the public yet. You can keep what you find.

As non dlc owner you will likely see a bunch of improvements without having to own the DLC. You will get the overhauled Split race to look at. You will see ships from ventures....and who knows...maybe some wares will even find their way to your economy.