How To Protect Galaxy Traders?

[Arze]

No matter what you do, right now this is fubar beyond belief. I even made a thread asking what should I do about pirates? Even if you scan them the security still craps on you and now I watched one use a basic laser gun on a kestrel a literally it went pew-boom and I lost the trader just like that. Its riddiculous...

[DnBrn47]

Thoughts and prayers until Traders stop sending escorts ahead to the next station/sector.

[Legionnaire]

I assign my Freighter/Miner to Escape on Attack as usual. However instead of assigning Fighters to "Protect", since the Freighter/Miner act like a Carrier and issue Recall/Dock commands every other minute, I assign a single Frigate with nothing but Beams. The provides the firepower for the AI Pilot to distract and usually win against these lone wolf reds and the F/M to Escape while the Frigate engages.

Also the Frigate is to big for the F/M to issue a Recall/Dock command and it ends up doing it job by staying with the F/M and the F/M does not stop for Sub Dock procedures non-stop.

A frigate for each trader???

Considering I have Freighters/Miners that cost $10-15 million and carry up to $500k+ in materials per run, combined with Fighter Sub commands being broken..yes. I don't provide protection or M class F/Ms...they are fast enough to escape 90% of the time.

What are you using as Freighters and Miners?

Legionnaire

[KextV8]

What are you using as Freighters and Miners?

Legionnaire

Hes using L class ships for Freight and Mining. I'm pretty sure that's actually not efficient since those ships are so slow and their cargo holds aren't THAT much bigger than M variants which can do many more runs in the same time frame thanks to jump gate shenanigans and being able to use highways.

[ApoxNM]

I assign my Freighter/Miner to Escape on Attack as usual. However instead of assigning Fighters to "Protect", since the Freighter/Miner act like a Carrier and issue Recall/Dock commands every other minute, I assign a single Frigate with nothing but Beams. The provides the firepower for the AI Pilot to distract and usually win against these lone wolf reds and the F/M to Escape while the Frigate engages.

Also the Frigate is to big for the F/M to issue a Recall/Dock command and it ends up doing it job by staying with the F/M and the F/M does not stop for Sub Dock procedures non-stop.

A frigate for each trader???

I don't provide protection or M class F/Ms...they are fast enough to escape 90% of the time.

Which freighters do you use? my M and S Freighters only escape 10% of the time. What's better a combat engine with boost (do they use boost) or a travel engine for speed? Which escapes better?
Mine always get shot down if I don't interfere.

[Bellatormonk]

I use a Helios and Incarcatua (this one is double the cargo size of the Helios) for large cargo hauls and 2 Chtho class miners. I run Vultures and Demeters for smaller Auto/Galaxy Trades and Manorinas as smaller Miners. Where and how are there so many attacks on your F/M ships? Put down some Sats so everyone can detect the raiders and respond as well.

I have 4-5 sectors that see raider traffic, however between my own Patrols using Wings of 5 Fighters per "harrassed" sector (with the exception of Pious Mist 4 that has an unkillable KHK Station and constants spawns) raider traffic is pretty much handled before any of my ships get attacked or are able to escape when help arrives for the unprotected ships.

[ApoxNM]

I use a Helios and Incarcatua (this one is double the cargo size of the Helios) for large cargo hauls and 2 Chtho class miners. I run Vultures and Demeters for smaller Auto/Galaxy Trades and Manorinas as smaller Miners. Where and how are there so many attacks on your F/M ships? Put down some Sats so everyone can detect the raiders and respond as well.

I have 4-5 sectors that see raider traffic, however between my own Patrols using Wings of 5 Fighters per "harrassed" sector (with the exception of Pious Mist 4 that has an unkillable KHK Station and constants spawns) raider traffic is pretty much handled before any of my ships get attacked or are able to escape when help arrives for the unprotected ships.

Welp,

I like to smuggle illegal goods. My ships kind of go to pirate sectors a lot....

[Bellatormonk]

I use a Helios and Incarcatua (this one is double the cargo size of the Helios) for large cargo hauls and 2 Chtho class miners. I run Vultures and Demeters for smaller Auto/Galaxy Trades and Manorinas as smaller Miners. Where and how are there so many attacks on your F/M ships? Put down some Sats so everyone can detect the raiders and respond as well.

I have 4-5 sectors that see raider traffic, however between my own Patrols using Wings of 5 Fighters per "harrassed" sector (with the exception of Pious Mist 4 that has an unkillable KHK Station and constants spawns) raider traffic is pretty much handled before any of my ships get attacked or are able to escape when help arrives for the unprotected ships.

Welp,

I like to smuggle illegal goods. My ships kind of go to pirate sectors a lot....

Paranids and ANT love illegal drugs...why go into Pirate territory? I run large amounts of drugs from a HaT Trade station to them all the time. Are you going to SCA space?

[ApoxNM]

I use a Helios and Incarcatua (this one is double the cargo size of the Helios) for large cargo hauls and 2 Chtho class miners. I run Vultures and Demeters for smaller Auto/Galaxy Trades and Manorinas as smaller Miners. Where and how are there so many attacks on your F/M ships? Put down some Sats so everyone can detect the raiders and respond as well.

I have 4-5 sectors that see raider traffic, however between my own Patrols using Wings of 5 Fighters per "harrassed" sector (with the exception of Pious Mist 4 that has an unkillable KHK Station and constants spawns) raider traffic is pretty much handled before any of my ships get attacked or are able to escape when help arrives for the unprotected ships.

Welp,

I like to smuggle illegal goods. My ships kind of go to pirate sectors a lot....

Paranids and ANT love illegal drugs...why go into Pirate territory? I run large amounts of drugs from a HaT Trade station to them all the time. Are you going to SCA space?

Because my 3 little S Traders cleared the HAT station fast. No more spaceweed and majadust there, they get it from the source and the other HAT Freeports, which where my ships get attacked.

[Bellatormonk]

I have +13 HaT Faction and also have my own Drug Lab Station. Just made two runs from my Station to the ANT Trader station at $1.5 million profit per run... Sounds like you need some cloak tech then...

[Requiemfang]

I assign my Freighter/Miner to Escape on Attack as usual. However instead of assigning Fighters to "Protect", since the Freighter/Miner act like a Carrier and issue Recall/Dock commands every other minute, I assign a single Frigate with nothing but Beams. The provides the firepower for the AI Pilot to distract and usually win against these lone wolf reds and the F/M to Escape while the Frigate engages.

Also the Frigate is to big for the F/M to issue a Recall/Dock command and it ends up doing it job by staying with the F/M and the F/M does not stop for Sub Dock procedures non-stop.

A frigate for each trader???

Why choose a bat when you have a very keen and sharp sword in your arsenal? Is it over kill? ABSA-FRAGGIN-LUTELY!

[TerrorTrooper]

You can fully kit a nemesis vanguard corvette for a little over 3 mil. Considerably cheaper than most frigates 5mil plus price tag.
I have about a dozen of them protecting my assets.

[burger1]

Would a moded teladi carrier work as well.

[Bellatormonk]

You can fully kit a nemesis vanguard corvette for a little over 3 mil. Considerably cheaper than most frigates 5mil plus price tag.
I have about a dozen of them protecting my assets.

True but again, I am trying to avoid have S-M class Defenders dock on the L Freighter/Mining ship like the broken Carrier mechanics which slows the F/M down. A Frigate cannot land on my F/Ms and they both proceed at max speed. It's not a firepower issue..it's a "work around the currently broken Sub commands".