5 Frames per second with a GTX - 680 (Updated with low setting test)

1102kg · Post by **1102kg** » Sat, 16. Nov 13, 19:06

CBJ wrote:Just as a test, could you update the Realtek drivers and set that to be the default audio device, and see if that makes any difference?

I can and will. I am at work right now but, will be going home for lunch to give it a try.

DentMan06 · Post by **DentMan06** » Sat, 16. Nov 13, 20:11

Yep... based on my vast experience with video games, computer hardware/software, I am POSITIVE that sound is the issue.

/sarcasm

Look, so many people are having these issues. This obvious is the fault of the game. I can run LITERALLY every game on my computer on extreme graphics, even Rome 2: Total War and none of them perform as poorly as X Rebirth.

Just saying, how many people complaining about the same issue does it take before it isn't the users' faults and it is the game's?

AMD FX-8350 stock @ 4.1Ghz
Gigabyte AMD Radeon HD 7970 OC 3GB GDDR5
tested with BOTH 4GB Mushkin DDR1800 and 8GB OCZ DDR1800
MSI 970 970A-G46
Corsair 80GB SSD
Western Digital black 1TB 7200rpm
1,000 watt psu

I use a pair of Turtle Beach X41 wireless headphones off a direct connection through the motherboard's optical (using onboard audio).

Not to sound like a jerk or anything, but no other games have an issue on my rig.

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Anywhere near a station, in a station (docked)... just about most places in the game, my frames do not go above 25-30. In many busy places, my frames are 10fps at best.

There is something wrong here.

1102kg · Post by **1102kg** » Sat, 16. Nov 13, 21:24

DentMan06 wrote:Yep... based on my vast experience with video games, computer hardware/software, I am POSITIVE that sound is the issue.

/sarcasm

Look, so many people are having these issues. This obvious is the fault of the game. I can run LITERALLY every game on my computer on extreme graphics, even Rome 2: Total War and none of them perform as poorly as X Rebirth.

Just saying, how many people complaining about the same issue does it take before it isn't the users' faults and it is the game's?

AMD FX-8350 stock @ 4.1Ghz
Gigabyte AMD Radeon HD 7970 OC 3GB GDDR5
tested with BOTH 4GB Mushkin DDR1800 and 8GB OCZ DDR1800
MSI 970 970A-G46
Corsair 80GB SSD
Western Digital black 1TB 7200rpm
1,000 watt psu

I use a pair of Turtle Beach X41 wireless headphones off a direct connection through the motherboard's optical (using onboard audio).

Not to sound like a jerk or anything, but no other games have an issue on my rig.

--------------------------------------------
Anywhere near a station, in a station (docked)... just about most places in the game, my frames do not go above 25-30. In many busy places, my frames are 10fps at best.

There is something wrong here.

Look man we can sit here and scream all day long about how the game is not optimized correctly for rigs. He did not come on here and accuse us of having bad setups nor did he come on here and say it was our faults. We can either just yell or, do what we can to help them and others with the issues.

That being said I am not going to make it home until after work to troubleshoot and try the things recommended here. (work issues came up)

I'll try everything here to see if it helps or if I can isolate the issue. For all we know it could just be the audio cause I doubt anyone here other the egosoft has even looked at the code.

Fnord Lightbringer · Post by **Fnord Lightbringer** » Sat, 16. Nov 13, 21:28

DentMan06 wrote: Anywhere near a station, in a station (docked)... just about most places in the game, my frames do not go above 25-30. In many busy places, my frames are 10fps at best.

There is something wrong here.

After my freighter still hasn't bought the damn 100 energy cells for the tutorial, I decided that enough is enough and started a new game in free play mode. When I initially spawned, I got around 2 fps. No seriously. Two. And that's a conservative estimate.

It's not the graphics card. And it's not the sound driver. And it's not the CPU. Graphics card utilization is way below 100% and switching everything off and switching to 1280x720 gives no relief. CPU utilization is below 50%, so obviously the egosoft engine is still not multhreaded. Something customers have been whining about for as long as I can remember playing X games.

There is literally no excuse on Egosoft's part. None.

fanatico · Post by **fanatico** » Sat, 16. Nov 13, 21:28

i was having a similar problem, but i fixed it mostly, just by entering the bios (efi bios from asus) and overcloking the processor a bit, my processor is a I5 2500k, and i put the motherboard in high performance mode and the game run much better.

my video card is a GTX 560 1GB and i have 8 GB of Ram.
Hope it help

cakes · Post by **cakes** » Sat, 16. Nov 13, 22:16

Audio conflicts and/or audio driver and codec issues can cause all sorts of general performance problems. The people who've used these forums for a while will be aware of this with a previous game (I'm not suggesting it's the old problem).

Anyone who's interested in resolving this will look at it with an open mind, as not everyone with the same hardware type of GFX card and/or CPU is affected.

As a very real example with XR, if you connect a Saitek X52 Pro and use a USB mouse, the game can freeze randomly for several seconds and the mouse inputs are intermittent. This appears to happen when the throttle/throttle slider is in certain positions during the start of the game. It's nothing to do with the CPU, GFX card or GFX drivers, despite the effect looking like stuttering or low FPS.

Stating all other software works OK is a moot point. There is either an issue in certain platforms or configurations that XR has exposed or an issue that needs correcting in the game. Until it's narrowed down, it really doesn't matter either way.

So whilst certain people might find their sarcasm amusing, it's ultimately unproductive.

BadIronTree · Post by **BadIronTree** » Sat, 16. Nov 13, 22:20

This is my dxdiag
http://pastebin.com/yZ0zcNpy

1102kg · Post by **1102kg** » Mon, 18. Nov 13, 00:54

CBJ wrote:Just as a test, could you update the Realtek drivers and set that to be the default audio device, and see if that makes any difference?

Alright I know it has been a day or so past when I said I would try these fixes. I am sitting down now and, going to run some game play with my monitoring software to see GPU usage CPU usage and temperatures.

Will run tests at both min and max setting and, from there if you have further input on what setting you want me to try next. I saw the sticky I am still kinda learning the game and, have yet to get to a point to a nebula since I am still very much in the tutorial part of the campaign.

Lise · Post by **Lise** » Mon, 18. Nov 13, 01:18

papaoscar90 wrote:I have a feeling it is something to do with your CPU. I have 3750K (4.3ghz) and a GTX670 and I get 50 fps on maxed out graphics (even with shadowplay on). Make sure your fullscreen is on too. You shouldn't buy a good graphics card but then skimp on the cpu.

I'm so psyched for you if that's the case, - I have a 2500k at 4.5ghz and can get down to 15-19 fps at a busy station.

But you can get 50 fps even when say, looking at the main station in Frozen Circuit, maybe from the distance of one of the ice miners?

Astyrrean · Post by **Astyrrean** » Mon, 18. Nov 13, 01:23

See:
http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=349398

1102kg · Post by **1102kg** » Mon, 18. Nov 13, 01:32

Astyrrean wrote:See:
http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=349398

Still running my tests but, I don't see how a diffrent system would make that kind of a difference. If I stay in Albion and simply go out into empty space I see the same type of increase of up to 90 FPS on lowest settings. I can agree that it is the rendered ships possibly the AI since I saw a insane increase in CPU usage from jumping on the highway when all control is taken away from the AI NPC ships.

About to upload this data in a moment from the low settings test.

1102kg · Post by **1102kg** » Mon, 18. Nov 13, 01:56

http://img36.imageshack.us/img36/4856/8b7e.png

Alright this is a image of my monitoring software. Not a huge fan of on screen values from in-game cause I can't go back and, reference them. That being said I don't have an image to show you that directly correlates to the data either so here we go.

I swapped back to the default audio drivers. My system is up to date with the latest.

Flying around a normal station gives me about 20 to 27 stable FPS. This involves getting close to the station and, other rendered ships which after this test I would mainly agree with the link that was posted a few posts back about it possibly being the AI not threading correctly.

I find support of this in the idea that after I jump onto a highway system the CPU utilization spikes by well...a lot up to about 76%. This is shown by the orange line to the left image. This is part of the software and, not me drawing a thick orange line so I assure you it is accurate. After leaving the highway system the CPU usage plummets back down. I shortly ended the test after that which is why you see it further drop down nearing 0%.

I can really only assume it is the AI not threading correctly cause there is a good amount rendered on the Highway including graphical objects and, ships. The only thing I think really is not used on the highway is mainly the AI of the NPC ships. Though I could be entirely wrong and, it is something else. All I know is Highway = good CPU usage. Though frame rate did not increase on on the highway.

Though not shown on this chart I went off a highway into space not occupied by any NPC ships. Frame rate dramatically increased to 90 FPS!

Purple - Near station test

Red - Idle (Sitting just idle doing nothing for base reference)

Yellow - Highway

Not much to show on the GPU image to the right. GPU usage stayed at a rock solid 35% to 40%. Not sure why more is not off loaded to the GPU. I read that this was a more CPU intensive game but, I really think the game could take more advantage of the hardware here.

This was the Low setting test on rock bottom settings. I hope this helps. Someone at least.

{Images posted directly to the forums should not be greater than 640x480 or 100kb, oversize image now linked - Terre}

hst · Post by **hst** » Mon, 18. Nov 13, 09:32

I'm getting okay frame rates of 20-40 FPS with my (mobile) GTX680 most of the time. I use default graphic settings at 1920x1080. I don't use any special Nvidia control panel tweaks apart from forcing the Nvidia card override so that the onboard Intel graphics card isn't used for the game.

CPU is an intel i7 at 2.4Ghz (mobile) that can sustain running at 3Ghz boost - my laptop has decent cooling.