[AP] All Terran issues go here

[Legionos]

I like playing terrans and I'm more than disappointed about these issues, as I have faced some of them. I wonder how the addon has passed the beta tests. In my humble opinion there should be no community mod to fix these issues, there should rather be a patch released by Egosoft - quickly

1. No Terran marines and subsequently no bioscanner in terran space.

2. Skirnir unable to use Boarding Pods.

3. Mani has an initial cargo of 650 and a max cargo of 105.

4. M/AM Warhead and Ghoul production stations unable for purchase because their models break the game when you try to complex them.

5. Ice asteroids missing and Ice Mine unable for purchase (even if this is just for economic stimulation rather than personal consumption).

6. Terran Complex Construction Kit does not work.

7. The Point Singularity Projector does 0 damage OOS.

8. No hireable TL's.

9. Terran/ATF (and Argon) war forces attacking player ships in war sectors OOS even with good standing

10. Unable to purchase Terran Orbital Bases to use as personal staging grounds

We can only hope they will be fixed officially, so this is a good thread to 'spread the word' and 'highlight the issues to the devs' while also temporarily fixing them with the help of the community

[WeriTis]

Maybe include the lack of a terran police license while you're at it. Heck, call it a war/USC license if you must.

Also, W T F about disabling TC plots because they "already happened", yet i can see a "Dark Space Installation" in the first unknown sector.

[Legionos]

to be honest i did not play TC (i figured the Albion Intro summed up the main TC plot so there was no point in playing it)

i have the impression that the Dark Space Installation is new to AP though and it was not in TC?

if so obviously it will have a role to play when egosoft does a patch since it sells generic wares and must have another significance

[Worjester]

The main issue for me with terran is the lack of jumpdrive in terran sector. I would love to play a rp game as a Terran : at war with all CW race.
But I can't, I have to stay friendly with boron...(Atreus HQ).
The other option is to buy it at the goner temple, but I don't know how to farm goner rep, no station mission in that sector.

The jumpdrive was available at the torus before the war, so I assume that terrans have the required knowledge to build and sell it :/

[palm911]

***ships running the war scripts, poof after capture***.

[Nazardo]

11. No Terran Police License

I agree on all other issues, but not on this one.
Terran are not interested in subcontracting police work. For example, I have yet to find a terran station that offer a "station defense" mission.
They are pretty much able to defend themself with all those USC/ATF ships around.

9. Terran/ATF (and Argon) war forces attacking player ships in war sectors OOS even with good standing

It happened to me too! I have several Sector Traders in Terran space and I promoted one to Local Trader on a 1 sector range around Uranus.
After a while I received an alert and he was in Jupiter releasing his drones against a Cutlass (how did he get there in the first place?).
I told him to jump to Uranus and resume his work, but I had to change his ship's IFF because he had declared enemy the Terran and he was unable to dock at any station.

[Legionos]

11. No Terran Police License

I agree on all other issues, but not on this one.
Terran are not interested in subcontracting police work. For example, I have yet to find a terran station that offer a "station defense" mission.
They are pretty much able to defend themself with all those USC/ATF ships around.

9. Terran/ATF (and Argon) war forces attacking player ships in war sectors OOS even with good standing

It happened to me too! I have several Sector Traders in Terran space and I promoted one to Local Trader on a 1 sector range around Uranus.
After a while I received an alert and he was in Jupiter releasing his drones against a Cutlass (how did he get there in the first place?).
I told him to jump to Uranus and resume his work, but I had to change his ship's IFF because he had declared enemy the Terran and he was unable to dock at any station.

Well with terran space now connected to the xenon core sectors and since the ATF/Terran military patrols generally hang around the solar system you could argue to have a police license.

Yeah i have a couple sector traders aswell, i had asteroid belt, jupiter blacklisted. With one sector trader working in staurn with 2j radius lo and behold i catch him sneaking through Jupiter to get to Jupiter 2 had to blacklist all the jupiter sectors now lol

The main issue for me with terran is the lack of jumpdrive in terran sector. I would love to play a rp game as a Terran : at war with all CW race.
But I can't, I have to stay friendly with boron...(Atreus HQ).
The other option is to buy it at the goner temple, but I don't know how to farm goner rep, no station mission in that sector.

The jumpdrive was available at the torus before the war, so I assume that terrans have the required knowledge to build and sell it :/

As i said the Jumpdrive is a hazy one because you can equally argue for and against having it available in terran space.

As a side note you dont have to remain freindly with the boron to get it. The goners sell it (have to dodge all those angry argons though) and also you can just pirate it from boarding ships carrying it.

Believe me when i say i see so many jumpdrive capable TM's passing through Hatkivah's Faith. Im training my marine regiment up now.

[Worjester]

Well actually I've already tried with the goner temple. It's easy to dock there with a valkyrie, but you need some goner rep and I there isn't station mission in the sector :/

[Nazardo]

What Goner rank level does a Terran Commander starts with?


Talking about ranks,,, is there a way to increase the ATF one? I'm a "Warrior of Io" and, at the same time, a "Suspect Programmer". Has the war made the terran forget about security? I'm an Argon and I've reached the Earth with no problems. In TC I should have needed an "ATF Earth access".

[Worjester]

As a terran commander, you start with the goner neutral rep.

[Legionos]

What Goner rank level does a Terran Commander starts with?


Talking about ranks,,, is there a way to increase the ATF one? I'm a "Warrior of Io" and, at the same time, a "Suspect Programmer". Has the war made the terran forget about security? I'm an Argon and I've reached the Earth with no problems. In TC I should have needed an "ATF Earth access".

To be honest theres so much about the Terran thats broken its not even funny

There are i believe 2 ATF stations

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2nd Unknown Sector, Segaris the Orbital Defense Stations

[Nazardo]

There are i believe 2 ATF stations

I'll check this out and see if I can get to an accectable ATF rank.

[WeriTis]

11. No Terran Police License

I agree on all other issues, but not on this one.
Terran are not interested in subcontracting police work. For example, I have yet to find a terran station that offer a "station defense" mission.
They are pretty much able to defend themself with all those USC/ATF ships around.

Well. THen make it something innate to the Terran Commander start and call it a "USC guerdon" or whatever the word in english is for the money soldiers are paid by their country. Because as it is, you are part of the terran military, but are not getting paid a single credit...


Also, i believe the

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Dark Space Installation should have blown up in the BoP plot.

And that is why it seems so illogical to argue against the TC plots saying "yeah they have already been done a long time ago 8luh8luh"

[Nazardo]

THen make it something innate to the Terran Commander start and call it a "USC guerdon" or whatever the word in english is for the money soldiers are paid by their country. Because as it is, you are part of the terran military, but are not getting paid a single credit...

You are more likely a discharged soldier, now free to follow your own will.

Also, i believe the

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Dark Space Installation should have blown up in the BoP plot.

And that is why it seems so illogical to argue against the TC plots saying "yeah they have already been done a long time ago 8luh8luh"

Another design fail?

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Or maybe, years after their HQ destruction in the TC plot, dark space is back.

[Jumee]

There are i believe 2 ATF stations

I'll check this out and see if I can get to an accectable ATF rank.

I managed to get "outer systems access" rank by just trading in ATF stations, but there is seriously no need to do it since ATF does not restrict your access to systems anymore

[Nazardo]

I managed to get "outer systems access" rank by just trading in ATF stations, but there is seriously no need to do it since ATF does not restrict your access to systems anymore

It looks good on your universal passport though.

I've added it to my todo list.

[Ripskar]

Well. THen make it something innate to the Terran Commander start and call it a "USC guerdon" or whatever the word in english is for the money soldiers are paid by their country. Because as it is, you are part of the terran military, but are not getting paid a single credit...

Oddest military service I've ever heard of; No orders to obey, allowed to wander off across the universe at will, fraternise with the enemy and yet deserters are being shot (have a read of the assassination missions...)
The Argon are the same of course and they are at least told their rank (Sergeant).

[Legionos]

Well. THen make it something innate to the Terran Commander start and call it a "USC guerdon" or whatever the word in english is for the money soldiers are paid by their country. Because as it is, you are part of the terran military, but are not getting paid a single credit...

Oddest military service I've ever heard of; No orders to obey, allowed to wander off across the universe at will, fraternise with the enemy and yet deserters are being shot (have a read of the assassination missions...)
The Argon are the same of course and they are at least told their rank (Sergeant).

Well you kind of are told orders with those war announcements

[Ripskar]

More like the Ministry for Misinformation broadcasts;

"Stand by for update on the conflict." <Dramatic Chipmunk> "The Enemy has made no serious progress into our sectors."
Translation; They're through the Asteroid Belt, nothing's getting through to Jupiter 2 and they're crawling up your tailpipe.

[Gazz]

Also see this.

http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=314037

4. M/AM Warhead and Ghoul production stations unable for purchase because their models break the game when you try to complex them.

Are you sure they break anything?
Every terran missile / ammo fab uses the same model so it either works for all or none of them.

That you can't connect them with terran CCK is normal because the terran CCK were never supposed to be for sale. They are just a broken item.