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Please Vote for Your Preferred M7 (not M7M)

Argon CERBERUS
2
2%
Boron THRESHER
4
5%
Paranid AGAMEMNON
17
20%
Paranid DEIMOS
6
7%
Split PANTHER
26
30%
Split TIGER
18
21%
Teladi SHRIKE
9
10%
Terran YOKOHAMA
5
6%
 
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Post by Stars_InTheirEyes »

gona edit main with some more of that stuff said above me, and use some of what cheleac said before that i missed


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Post by Sam L.R. Griffiths »

Terran Yokohama ... why??

1. It is terran, and you gotta love the white paint job on them :D
2. It is the smallest of the M7, making it a tough sucker with those 5GJ of shields (Perhaps comparable with the X3:R Hyperion - just wish we had the Pandora tunings as well :twisted: )
3. It makes a decent OOS patrol leader, paired with a couple of Terran Katana's just leave them to suppress any enemy fighters. 8)

At least that is my opinion :)
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Basiclly the reason why the Yokohama isn't a favoured M7 is because of its lack of firepower and because it does not have a back turret..

As you described, it would make a good OOS patrol with a couple of Katana's but there is a better M7 for the things a Yokohama/Katana patrol would do.
Such as Deimos with all around PSG's and another Gigajoule of shielding.
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Roger L.S. Griffiths wrote:3. It makes a decent OOS patrol leader, paired with a couple of Terran Katana's just leave them to suppress any enemy fighters.
Are you sure of that ? I have read sevral times that terran wepons do not work at all OOS.
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Geek wrote:
Roger L.S. Griffiths wrote:3. It makes a decent OOS patrol leader, paired with a couple of Terran Katana's just leave them to suppress any enemy fighters.
Are you sure of that ? I have read sevral times that terran wepons do not work at all OOS.
EMPC works fine... MAMLs are expensive and useless OOS... SSCs I think rate similar to FAA... PSPs I dunno about... As a rule for OOS patrols I just use EMPC to be on the safe side (though SSCs/PSPs may work fine)
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007bradz wrote:Basiclly the reason why the Yokohama isn't a favoured M7 is because of its lack of firepower and because it does not have a back turret..

As you described, it would make a good OOS patrol with a couple of Katana's but there is a better M7 for the things a Yokohama/Katana patrol would do.
Such as Deimos with all around PSG's and another Gigajoule of shielding.
PSGs for OOS combat??? Hmmm.... In X2 & X3:R, I believe that PSGs were the damp squib of OOS weapons... has this changed in X3:TC?
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Geek wrote:
Roger L.S. Griffiths wrote:3. It makes a decent OOS patrol leader, paired with a couple of Terran Katana's just leave them to suppress any enemy fighters.
Are you sure of that ? I have read sevral times that terran wepons do not work at all OOS.
Not quite true.

It can mount EMPC's, M/AM's and SSC's. EMPC's provide fast firing, SSC's provide area coverage, M/AM's provide heavier hitting although not strong enough to hurt things like other M7's it should be enough to fend off fighters, and a M6.

Rememer although that can do the job, another M7 can do it better.
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Roger L.S. Griffiths wrote:
007bradz wrote:Basiclly the reason why the Yokohama isn't a favoured M7 is because of its lack of firepower and because it does not have a back turret..

As you described, it would make a good OOS patrol with a couple of Katana's but there is a better M7 for the things a Yokohama/Katana patrol would do.
Such as Deimos with all around PSG's and another Gigajoule of shielding.
PSGs for OOS combat??? Hmmm.... In X2 & X3:R, I believe that PSGs were the damp squib of OOS weapons... has this changed in X3:TC?
Think about it, as long as it isnt surrounded by enemies, it will deal with the fighters luanched by nearby TM's and wont have a problem using its other weapons to clear any M6.
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Think about it, as long as it isnt surrounded by enemies, it will deal with the fighters luanched by nearby TM's and wont have a problem using its other weapons to clear any M6.
OOS remember. The issue used to be that area effect weapons didn't hit an area OOS. They just hit on ship for feeble amounts of damage. Very different mechanics to the IS combat...

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I thought ammo based weapons such as M/AMs didn't work OOS?
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Post by CharonJr »

Tiger,

since even 122 m/s feels a bit slow and it was the first M7 I managed to capture ;) In addition it has a decent weapons loadout even if the shields are not that great, but a good playership non the less.

Since I tend to stuff my M7s with flak the Panther would be too low on energy too often ;) But I love being able to carry some spare jumpdriver on that one ;)

For AI ships/backup I would rather take an Agamennon due to its shields, still decent speed and flak capability.

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Post by Sam L.R. Griffiths »

Chealec wrote:I thought ammo based weapons such as M/AMs didn't work OOS?
Correct... Ammo (MD/MAML/GC) and Area Effect (PSG/CFAA) weapons do not work OOS. The Ammo based weapons chew through ammo very quickly for near enough zero results. The Area Effect weapons do not gain from multiple hits on a single target nor even hitting multiple targets.
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My vote went to the Tiger as it's the second fastest M7, only beaten by the Aegir and the Astraeus Hauler.

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