[UPD: 22.10.08] X3 TC Data Sheets 1.1

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Hargert
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Post by Hargert »

Anyone know of any other locations to download the Data sheets from? It looks like the location is blocked so I cant get them :-( My guess is the de in the address.
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Hargert wrote:Anyone know of any other locations to download the Data sheets from? It looks like the location is blocked so I cant get them :-( My guess is the de in the address.
o_O If it would really be that you wont be able to view any german site :P Anyways - there is no other Download Location.

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Troglodyteus wrote:The reason there are "two" entries appears because for example the Argon Mercury Super-freighter can be bought as S, M , L variants. Differing ONLY in initial equipment and upgrades (and therefore price).
Nope thats not true. The S/M/L Variations are indeed only different from the pricing and the Default Equipment. But its always the same Ship. The TShips Entry for each of the Variants is the same. The Variation Stuff is done by the Game during runtime I think.

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Chernish wrote:This affects the filters in the Pivot Table ("X3 TC Asteroids Filter"), not the regular autofilters in the other spreadsheets
Strange... They seem to work for me using the same Sheet you can download: See This Screenshot

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Troglodyteus wrote:Also the MAX speeds are incorrect for most ships, because the figures quoted are for the MIN speed before upgrading.
Click at the Max Speed Cell (D1) in the Ship Sheet ;) Theres a Comment there saying its a known Bug ;) But thanks :)

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wrote:did you enter all those ROFs manually

I'm also finding the sheet to be password protected, though.

Minor typo - "Tranport class" on Ships page.
Yes I did enter the ROF, Energy, Used Energy etc. manually since there is no way to get them automated :(

Typo fixed. Thanks.

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Troglodyteus wrote:After I put all the data into a *new* workbook, I sorted by ship class and then stripped the ship data into separate tabs, one for each ship class M3, M4, M5, M6 etc because usually I am not interested in absolute values like MAX speed but a combination of parameters in comparison to get the "best" ship overall for the class.
You could aswell just use the AutoFilter in the Class Tab and only mark the Class you want to buy a ship of. This will get you exactly the same you have done manually now but in just ONE Sheet for every Class (Just change the FIlter to another Class) ;)

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@ALL

Great you like it :) And sth more I forgot while answering all the quotes above ^^ :D



EDIT: Oh I just saw what you all meant with the "Filters" not working... In Fact the Filters ARE working just fine. What does not seem to work is the Sorting. Ie. display every single Entry of the Sheet but sort them so that all Argon Ships are shown first then all ATF then all Boron etc... Even though Sorting is allowed in the Configuration for all users without entering a password. Seems to be a Bug in MS Excel :S

greetz
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Post by Troglodyteus »

Thanks to those who responded to my post(s)

:idea: That'll teach me to write posts that are 100% accurate, but not read 100% and therefore not understood 100%. Oh well back to deriving me equation to predict the minimum energy needed to support a given mass in n-space volume. (Can't sort that either :roll: )

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Post by Incubi »

not letting me download, and page is in german so I do not know why. Meh I can't read german anyway, just saw a screenshot. SO nvm :P
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Post by XGamer »

lol its just a normal Download Page... Enter the Code in the Image left from the Input field into the Input Field and click the Download Button right next to it. If it does not start the Download reload the Page which should generate another Code. If it still doesnt work try another Browser.

Also note that in Captchas 0 often looks like an O aswell as 1 often looks like an l (lowercase L)
X:BtF: 7/10 | X2: 8/10 | X3:R/TC/AP: 8/10 | X:R: 3/10 | X4: 0/10 (3 points for split ships and stations, 4.0 -> -50 points).
If you are raising pirate activity, give me meaningful ways to deal with them PERMANENTLY. Better things to do than replacing ships every 10 minutes, or babysitting ships getting harassed.
Stopped playing X4 with 4.0 due to outrageous, needless and pointless nerfs to everything. Don't change what wasn't broken in the first place.
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Post by mcsquared »

I was not able to find a ships list in English nor one in German. I did copy your screenshot of the lasers which is very helpful. Any help on getting a list of X3 TC ships preferably in English would be very appreciated.
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Post by NacNud »

Is there anywhere that the "prototype ships" can be bought?

For example, the Nova Prototype is listed as for sale in Legends Home in your sheet but it's not for sale there....
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Post by ADNoland »

I downloaded it but never did say thanks.... so thanks :D it's awsome.
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Post by Phyxion »

Anyone able to save this as a 2003 or earlier version Excel file? Some of us can't afford to spend a couple hundred bucks every other year to get the newest reacharound from Uncle Billy, especially when it really offers very little of actual benefit...
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Post by brekehan »

I click the download button and it says

"Der Bestätigungscode für diesen Download war nicht korrekt. Bitte kehre zurück und versuche es erneut."

Of course I have no idea what that means. Do I have to register on that site? If so, how can I do so when I can't understand a word on it?
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Post by Sandalpocalypse »

I believe that means you entered the incorrect spamfilter code. The little image isn't in german, type it into the box provided. 8)

@Phyxion - You can open it using the latest version of Excel Viewer.
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Post by XGamer »

Sry guys for my late Response here :S

But as you all might have noticed the Forums are quit slow these Days so I reduced the Frequency to view them ;)

Lets come to another large Reply Post now :D
mcsquared wrote:I was not able to find a ships list in English nor one in German. I did copy your screenshot of the lasers which is very helpful. Any help on getting a list of X3 TC ships preferably in English would be very appreciated.
Uhm Screenshots? Download the Excel File and open it. It contains quite a lot of Sheets so you might need to use the Arrow Buttons at the bottom left corner of MS Excel to scroll through the available Sheets. The Ship Sheet is quite at the end.

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Phyxion wrote:Anyone able to save this as a 2003 or earlier version Excel file? Some of us can't afford to spend a couple hundred bucks every other year to get the newest reacharound from Uncle Billy, especially when it really offers very little of actual benefit...
As Sandalpocalypse aslready mentioned you can download the MS Excel Viewer for free at the Microsoft Homepage. This can open the File aswell.

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brekehan wrote:I click the download button and it says

"Der Bestätigungscode für diesen Download war nicht korrekt. Bitte kehre zurück und versuche es erneut."

Of course I have no idea what that means. Do I have to register on that site? If so, how can I do so when I can't understand a word on it?
No you do not need to register. The Download is free for everyone.
What the Message told you is that you did not enter the Code or entered it wrong from the Image left of the Download Button into the Input Field between the Image and the Download Button.
You just need to type the Letters / Numbers from the Image into the Field and then press Download Button and it should work.

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Im currenty working on another Sheet Update which will fix some Bugs you Guys mentioned and possibly introduce another Sheet :)

greetz
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X:BtF: 7/10 | X2: 8/10 | X3:R/TC/AP: 8/10 | X:R: 3/10 | X4: 0/10 (3 points for split ships and stations, 4.0 -> -50 points).
If you are raising pirate activity, give me meaningful ways to deal with them PERMANENTLY. Better things to do than replacing ships every 10 minutes, or babysitting ships getting harassed.
Stopped playing X4 with 4.0 due to outrageous, needless and pointless nerfs to everything. Don't change what wasn't broken in the first place.
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Post by Phyxion »

Sandalpocalypse wrote:You can open it using the latest version of Excel Viewer.
Well, yes, but that won't let me save it into a usable format for editing, will it? I like to be able to tinker by adding new columns (like cargo space * max velocity, etc) for testing stuff. I'm only asking because I already have Excel 2003 - does this sheet use any of the Excel features that aren't present in 03?

Thanks :wink:
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Post by shdwdrgn »

You can also download the file converter from Microsoft ( http://office.microsoft.com/en-us/produ ... 61033.aspx ).

This will convert Office 2007 documents into a readable format for Office 2003 (also works for Office XP and 2000). This also should allow you to edit it just like you would a regular Office 2003 document.
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Post by mcsquared »

Will someone please post these stats in English here so a great many of us can download them! I'm sure we would be very, very appreciative of anyone doing this!
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mcsquared wrote:Will someone please post these stats in English here so a great many of us can download them! I'm sure we would be very, very appreciative of anyone doing this!
Uhm the whole Sheets are in English ;) Not sure about the Privot One but that one should be aswell...
Im sorry but I cant see your Problem.
X:BtF: 7/10 | X2: 8/10 | X3:R/TC/AP: 8/10 | X:R: 3/10 | X4: 0/10 (3 points for split ships and stations, 4.0 -> -50 points).
If you are raising pirate activity, give me meaningful ways to deal with them PERMANENTLY. Better things to do than replacing ships every 10 minutes, or babysitting ships getting harassed.
Stopped playing X4 with 4.0 due to outrageous, needless and pointless nerfs to everything. Don't change what wasn't broken in the first place.
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Post by mcsquared »

XGamer wrote: "Uhm the whole Sheets are in English Not sure about the Privot One but that one should be aswell...
Im sorry but I cant see your Problem."

My problem is that I can't find these Excel spreadsheets to download. The only download I was able to find leads to German language sites. Please show me where to "click" so I can get this info! :cry:
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Post by XGamer »

Ok so here we got a Nice and (hopefully) easy to understand for everyone on how to download the File:

1. Click the Image Link below.
2. Click the Download Link provided in the Original Post
3. You should have the same View as in the Picture.
4. Just do what the Picture says ;)
5. Enjoy

Enlight me

Its Really just as easy as that ;)

Hope its clear now :)

greetz
XGamer
X:BtF: 7/10 | X2: 8/10 | X3:R/TC/AP: 8/10 | X:R: 3/10 | X4: 0/10 (3 points for split ships and stations, 4.0 -> -50 points).
If you are raising pirate activity, give me meaningful ways to deal with them PERMANENTLY. Better things to do than replacing ships every 10 minutes, or babysitting ships getting harassed.
Stopped playing X4 with 4.0 due to outrageous, needless and pointless nerfs to everything. Don't change what wasn't broken in the first place.
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Post by clcabbage »

.... :gruebel: so i've downloaded your file , i have excel , downloaded excel viewer 2003 , and still... i get nothing but jibberish in the excel , and the viewer won't even open it ?? I must ask (because i wonder) how do i open and view your file ... an RAR File ??

Thnx for any help , i'm not so CPU savy.. :headbang: :doh:
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Post by whosrdaddy »

clcabbage,

RAR is just a compression format like (ZIP).

you need WinRAR to unpack it:

http://www.rarlabs.com/rar/wrar380.exe

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