Are you looking forward to X Online Universe (XOU)?
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What I don't get is how they'll be handling SETA-- I mean how could SETA work in an MP context? It can't. So what you have to do is increase the ship speeds to unbelievable levels so it doesn't take forever to get around within sectors, or (much worse) you go the ridiculous Freelancer route and make whole planets be a couple of hundred kilometers from one another (why oh why did they think this would not look ridiculous??).
And of course there are all those other problems with MP, especially cheating (which I don't have a problem with in SP games if used judiciously).
And of course there are all those other problems with MP, especially cheating (which I don't have a problem with in SP games if used judiciously).
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No mmo game will allow hosting of your own servers. The whole reason behind them is to enable a subscription based system.Toolfan wrote:I have a huge group of friends I can play with it, if it works out like freelancer where you can host your own servers then that will be cool, i'll start up my own server and password protect it. It is going to be a lot of fun. And dont even get me started if it also supports LAN.
IMO another big reason not to play/buy xOU would be that a small company with a small publisher CANNOT put out an MMO that will actually last. Any work you put into your empire will be lost when they run out of money / dont hit targeted amount of subscribers. They don't have the cash to ride out the rough spots, poor reviews and massive patch/bugfix schedule.
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I cant wait for the online game either. But i wish this game came with multiplayer,i already have some friends say if a patch would ever come out for this game and it had a multyplayer option they would buy the game.
Unless i read wrong but somewhere in these forums i read that there might be a patch that will contain multyplayer. I really hope so.
Unless i read wrong but somewhere in these forums i read that there might be a patch that will contain multyplayer. I really hope so.
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Are you guys sure this is going to be a MMO game? I was under the impression that it would just be a multiplayer game with a LAN and internet option. Players would set up their own servers and such. X2 is big, but not big enough to support thousands of players, maybe 128 to 256 at most, hardly classifys it as a MMO.
And there are a lot of small game developers who have been successful with MMO games. Everquest for example was created by a start up company called Verant, even though they had the backing of Sony there was little to no advertising, that got big from word of mouth. Dark age of camelot and Anarchy online are other examples of games created by small game developers, those two games today are quite big.
And there are a lot of small game developers who have been successful with MMO games. Everquest for example was created by a start up company called Verant, even though they had the backing of Sony there was little to no advertising, that got big from word of mouth. Dark age of camelot and Anarchy online are other examples of games created by small game developers, those two games today are quite big.
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I play/played some MMORPGS in my time, and I'm assuming that XOU is probably swaying the way of somewhat rpgish elements. I'm assuming XOU isn't exactly seat of your pants instant action like Unreak 2k3 or Counter Strike.
Anyway...
::Me at station::
Newbie: HaY d0oD, gimmie credits?
Me: No.
Newbie:
I neEd credits. Ples!
Me: Fine, here's a 1000.
Newbie: Got spare weapons?
Me: No.
Newbie: How do I transfer Cargo?
Me: "Sigh"
Veteran: STFU Newbie
Newbie: Was I talking to you? NO. U STFU
Veteran: Whatever @($# no0b.
Me: "Sigh"
::Someone uses a half naked female character to run up to::
HNF: Credits please?! ^__^
Me: "Sigh"
Anyway...
::Me at station::
Newbie: HaY d0oD, gimmie credits?
Me: No.
Newbie:

Me: Fine, here's a 1000.
Newbie: Got spare weapons?
Me: No.
Newbie: How do I transfer Cargo?
Me: "Sigh"
Veteran: STFU Newbie
Newbie: Was I talking to you? NO. U STFU
Veteran: Whatever @($# no0b.
Me: "Sigh"
::Someone uses a half naked female character to run up to::
HNF: Credits please?! ^__^
Me: "Sigh"
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I think you've come up with a winning forumla... Seems to have worked for all the other MMORPGsPsi Diver X wrote:I play/played some MMORPGS in my time, and I'm assuming that XOU is probably swaying the way of somewhat rpgish elements. I'm assuming XOU isn't exactly seat of your pants instant action like Unreak 2k3 or Counter Strike.
Anyway...
::Me at station::
Newbie: HaY d0oD, gimmie credits?
Me: No.
Newbie:I neEd credits. Ples!
Me: Fine, here's a 1000.
Newbie: Got spare weapons?
Me: No.
Newbie: How do I transfer Cargo?
Me: "Sigh"
Veteran: STFU Newbie
Newbie: Was I talking to you? NO. U STFU
Veteran: Whatever @($# no0b.
Me: "Sigh"
::Someone uses a half naked female character to run up to::
HNF: Credits please?! ^__^
Me: "Sigh"


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Oh no, there's a lot more...
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::Me at station::
Guy: 3 M3's looking for M2 and 2 others for Pirate Base Raid PST
Me: I got a M3
Guy: What M3?
Me: Boron Baracuda
Guy: ::Waits 10 minutes::
Me: ...
Guy: Fine, you can join.
Me: Okay, cool.
Guy: 4 M3's looking for M2 and 1 more M3 for pirate base raid.
Team member 2: Hey brb, gotta trade some Energy Cells real quick
Me: Okay hurry back...
Team member 4: Dude, Teladi ships are gimp
Team member 3: No, you're smoking it, we all know they're not
::1 hour later::
Team Leader: Okay, let's go.
Team member 1: Wait, gimmie 20 more minutes
::1 hour later::
Team member 1: Okay, let's go.
Me: Finally...
Team member 5: Oh snapz, somone with a M2! Quick recruit him!
Team leader: Wait I'll ask him.
::1 hour later::
Team Leader: Okay, let's go.
::Arrive at pirate base::
Team member with the M2: Okay, I go in and tank, the rest wait until I say use missles.
Me: Who's got PPC?
Team member 2: :Starts attacking pirate base for no reason:
Team member 4: Crap. WTF? We said Wait!
::Enimies start attacking us::
Team leader: JUMPDRIVE! JUMPDRIVE!
::Team member 2 has been destroyed::
Team member with m2: NO! Stay and fight! Back me up
Me: ::Starts attacking::
::Team member 4 goes link dead::
Team Leader: ::Starts attacking::
::A M2 class pirate ship jumps into the sector and adds onto us::
Me : WTF? Add! JUMPDRIVE!
::Team member with m2 has been destroyed::
::Team Leader has been destroyed::
::You have been destroyed. You lost your M3 and 29,001 credits. Press Ok to Respawn
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Yeah I got a lot of time on my hands...
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::Me at station::
Guy: 3 M3's looking for M2 and 2 others for Pirate Base Raid PST
Me: I got a M3
Guy: What M3?
Me: Boron Baracuda
Guy: ::Waits 10 minutes::
Me: ...
Guy: Fine, you can join.
Me: Okay, cool.
Guy: 4 M3's looking for M2 and 1 more M3 for pirate base raid.
Team member 2: Hey brb, gotta trade some Energy Cells real quick
Me: Okay hurry back...
Team member 4: Dude, Teladi ships are gimp
Team member 3: No, you're smoking it, we all know they're not
::1 hour later::
Team Leader: Okay, let's go.
Team member 1: Wait, gimmie 20 more minutes
::1 hour later::
Team member 1: Okay, let's go.
Me: Finally...
Team member 5: Oh snapz, somone with a M2! Quick recruit him!
Team leader: Wait I'll ask him.
::1 hour later::
Team Leader: Okay, let's go.
::Arrive at pirate base::
Team member with the M2: Okay, I go in and tank, the rest wait until I say use missles.
Me: Who's got PPC?
Team member 2: :Starts attacking pirate base for no reason:
Team member 4: Crap. WTF? We said Wait!
::Enimies start attacking us::
Team leader: JUMPDRIVE! JUMPDRIVE!
::Team member 2 has been destroyed::
Team member with m2: NO! Stay and fight! Back me up
Me: ::Starts attacking::
::Team member 4 goes link dead::
Team Leader: ::Starts attacking::
::A M2 class pirate ship jumps into the sector and adds onto us::
Me : WTF? Add! JUMPDRIVE!
::Team member with m2 has been destroyed::
::Team Leader has been destroyed::
::You have been destroyed. You lost your M3 and 29,001 credits. Press Ok to Respawn
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Yeah I got a lot of time on my hands...

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If XOU is gonna be an RPG...oh dea, what can we say about that other then, CRAP!!!
It wouldn't be fun if you had to like Take turns attacking then like have certain skills, so when you shoot theres a 50-50 chance you might hit them or not...That would take most of the fun out of the game and I certainly would not buy it.
It wouldn't be fun if you had to like Take turns attacking then like have certain skills, so when you shoot theres a 50-50 chance you might hit them or not...That would take most of the fun out of the game and I certainly would not buy it.
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An RPG does not necessarily mean that you have to take turns. That is just one type of RPG. There are many types, you can even already consider the X series an RPG series as you are playing the role of whoever you choose. The combat system is not what is important, it is the actual fact that you can be someone else and there is time put into creating this fantasy character you have envisioned. A shooter could even be an RPG as there are some out there. Normal shooters, like Counter strike, etc. are not RPG's because it is more instant gratification with no development of character.
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Multiplayer Game
I'm mixed about it.I used to play half-life ol.the first problem was 9000000 patch files to make i right,then the cheating and scripts begain so i gave up.The jerks completely ruined it.I play Diablo2 ol and feel better.Blizzard has SEVERE Policy about cheating...get caught with hacks and yur key code is banned.Y not?...it's their Intellectual property u r screwing with to screw other players...love the idea of banishment.I also like fact u can limit # players and restrict lvl of players + password "room' u play in to keep out morons.If X2 ol play has no restriction options in it THEN TOTALLY FORGET ABOUT IT!! There is a mentality out here that has to WIN AT ANY COST.They don't want to work for it, they cheat and still think they r cool and dominant..beats me y they even play.There was a post here a while ago by an idiot wanting to know if there was a God Mode!Think 'bout that idea...if u could have a God Mode y play the fucin' thing ?Tell me what would be the point?This is the same lamer shit that ruined Half-Life ol.Diablo2 has the same mental morons that Blizzard CONSTANTLYfights with.Rotsa Ruck with X2 online,they'll need it
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Multiplayer Game PT2
Another problem is The Psycho Dweeb from Bumfuc Nowhere who ruins it for people and u cant get rid of him in open game.if u play in closed session u cant meet good players.Guilds r okay 'till some Fascist Creep wants it all his way and trust me they always have backers.Most ol games r pain in ass.This game is NOT for everyone mostly because u have to THINK.God forbid the world of morons we live in should ever do that.Ya see we have the KILL EVERTHING IN SIGHT mental midgets out here...it take brains to build an empire.I'd escort yur battleship or protect yur factory.. but no... we will have some asshole kill us "friendlies"...Y?... cause he can...seen it over and over in D2 & half-Life.America's Army has point penelties that lower u back to training in order to play for killing " friendlies"This game is too involved to put up with bull...good players would stampede out the door..Paying to play wont change this either.It all comes down to this...the DEVS better think long and hard on how to do it right...there r a LOT of issues concerning multiplayer...go talk to Blizzard Entertainment... they did it right...Thank You and ood luck you'll need it [/i]
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XOU will have many problems that they will need a lot of work to fix. With MMOG you always get someone whos going to try and screw things up for you and other people. It happens on all MMOG games I've played. It's the nature of that kind of game. Of course your going to get hundreds of n00bs yes. I know they are annoying but even the best player has to start from a noob to get where he is. A good idea I think would be to completely wipe the universe every 2-4 months. That way there won't always be someone who's just insanely powerful. This would give a chance for n00bs to develope without PK's. I play Diablo 2 which has also introduced a system like this. Characters on Diablo 2 gain levels and if they are high enough they can get on the ladder. The ladder has 1000 places on it and im at 167. This took me a LONG time to do of course but soon Blizzard will be reseting the ladder so all characters and items are deleted. Before they introduced this the ladder was plagued by extremely powerful characters and only the very best could get on. Clearing the XOU like this, I think is a must. Also characters on Diablo 2 cannot be killed by pks until they are level 9. XOU could do something similar such as players who are completely harmless eg new players cannot be killed for a week and after that they are vunerable. I'd say a week is easily enough time for a player to have gained enough money to buy a ship and to defend him/herself. But being safe from players would also mean that you can't hurt them either. A week may be a bit much so Egosoft could decide how much time they would need. I think this game is going to require a lot of creative thinking to make it fair and fun to play. You shouldn't have to pay monthly either. That just makes a lot of people not want to buy the game.
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Seems to there is aheavy emphasis on combat from posters.Does this mean while some of the more sedate amongst us try to build installations we will constantly be defending ourselves?...count me out i dont want an arcade game in space thnx.Just as in real life war is a total waste of resources...maybe u could have a key coded jumpgate for safety.. like Diablo 2 when u r in the encampment u r safe...what is the point of a fragfest in a game like this where u die start over die start over forever and ever amen.It is hard to co-operate with people who have no idea how to.Homeworld sukz because all it is Command and Conqure in space without a realistic flight model One thing for sure we should be allowed to kickban the morons.The recorder feature could verify the bad behaviour
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A Concept: maybe we could sectors that contained resources limited in nature so that u would have to co-operate with the guys in another sector to obtain.e.g. we have the silicon u need for weps and computers but u have the food we need to mine with, that way we r all Forced to co-operate.Now if u invade us we should be able to "scorch earth" the sector so u end up with nothing and now u have go other sectors to get what u need.If everyone destroyed the sectors the last guy standin would still have nothing:for combat u could have "open "areas so u can have yur Armada face the other guys...aka dueling as in Diablo2I'm thinking in real world terms of economies.Canad sells oil to the U.S. if the U.S. doesn't buy our goods we r screwed but if they did that and we could destroy the oil then they would be screwed in a gaming sense.....the analogy is if u co-op everyone gets what they want.X2 seems to me to have a co-op economic model built in so in multiplay the same economic rules would apply.Toss in pirate guilds,random badass Xeon attacks and it could be fun
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I look forward to multiplaying ANYTHING... it also helps companies make up for all the cash they lose on pirated copies... or rather not make on pirated copies.
It is the secret to the everso dated discussion of pirates, user backups and copies.. charge for usage.. and take the M>>> F>>>ing Cd copy protections off those damed cds, so we all can play something instead of having our cd drives spit pieces of shattered disks at us (my Neverwinter Nights Cd literally BLEW UP in the drive... I blame the copy protection, but that's me)
Long live payed subscriptions and long live game companies... (ps long live anyone capable of making working nocd cracks (1.1) for GAME OWNERS so we can forget about risking our original cds.
It is the secret to the everso dated discussion of pirates, user backups and copies.. charge for usage.. and take the M>>> F>>>ing Cd copy protections off those damed cds, so we all can play something instead of having our cd drives spit pieces of shattered disks at us (my Neverwinter Nights Cd literally BLEW UP in the drive... I blame the copy protection, but that's me)
Long live payed subscriptions and long live game companies... (ps long live anyone capable of making working nocd cracks (1.1) for GAME OWNERS so we can forget about risking our original cds.
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