[X3] A tool to fix your directshow codecs (sound problems and performance)

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Post by hansie »

Sandalpocalypse wrote:Hmm...

Yes. I tried registering it but for no apparent effect.

I also cannot remove the filter.

Strange...
I got some unknowns too :? I think it's because some filter was registered in the past, but the file itself has been removed. Beats me how to get rid of it..

bendyspex: i believe so. Not sure how MadBoris got that list: I think it are the filters that come from windows, directx and media player and the game should work with those filters.

edit: got some weird shit with that pack a few days ago, but the uninstall works properly if it doesn't work out.
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Post by bendyspex »

I have tried the game with all the correct codecs and I still get the sound loop bug. Oh well, I guess I'll have to try something else :(
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Post by pixel »

I have ASF ACM Handler, this and Windows Media source filter are the only bits in red, and they are red where I have the problem in game - i.e. in SPEECH

I have tried reinstalling the latest divx, tried klite codec pack, tried mega codec pack, but nothing works

when I put ASF ACM to a low priority it is still red, so I put it to no priority and the DShow shows a problem

i.e. there is no other codec to replace what the ASF ACM codec does

please help :cry:
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cooldoud wrote:Tremendous effort here ! Thanks a lot ! I'm eagerly awaiting your godsent tool ;)
As I stated in the freezing thread, your tool is really easy to use, a job well done for sure ! Not mentionning that it MIGHT have solved my freezing issues (I cross fingers here, I won't be sure before tomorrow).
Anyway, thanks for your help, I think that all the community is grateful to you ! Well at least they should ;)
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bendyspex wrote:I have tried the game with all the correct codecs and I still get the sound loop bug. Oh well, I guess I'll have to try something else :(
Don't go ruining my hopes please ;)
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pixel wrote:Ii.e. there is no other codec to replace what the ASF ACM codec does

please help :cry:
Do you have "WMSpeech Decoder DMO" in the filter manager list ? If you do, try raising its merit, and if you don't, you obviously miss a codec. Considering its name, I guess this is part of the Windows Media codec pack that comes with X3's CD. Try running WMFDIST.exe on your CD and see if this fixes your problem.
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Post by capirex »

Is wm10 bettter for x3 than wm9? (i got the latter at the mo, got the crackle / pop sound prob)
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Post by hansie »

cooldoud wrote:
pixel wrote:Ii.e. there is no other codec to replace what the ASF ACM codec does

please help :cry:
Do you have "WMSpeech Decoder DMO" in the filter manager list ? If you do, try raising its merit, and if you don't, you obviously miss a codec. Considering its name, I guess this is part of the Windows Media codec pack that comes with X3's CD. Try running WMFDIST.exe on your CD and see if this fixes your problem.
Could be on that, yes.

In "Show me what I should be seeing here" you see the filename wmspdmod.dll. Now when I go to the file checker in the tools menu I see it listed there and with the info that it is part of Windows Media Player (part of Windows Media Player 10 in my case).
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Post by Jokey77 »

has anyone encountered problems with:

HKCYDLL2.dll

CLM1Splter2.ax
CLM2Splter2.ax

This might have an effect in my case... will update you soon...
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Post by MadBoris »

hansie wrote:MadBoris: the file checker doesn't state wmspdmod.dll as being important for X3, while the main screen of the tool states it's used to targetting and such. Any reason for that?
The file checker higlights major files that X3 uses at runtime, it's by no means exhaustive. When it comes down to it, there are many files and dependendant files that it depends on. All of them are important. It's a work in progress ;)
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bendyspex wrote:I have tried the game with all the correct codecs and I still get the sound loop bug. Oh well, I guess I'll have to try something else :(
So you tried the "attach to X3" and it said "no errors". And your graph screen looks completely white? How about the filechecker, No errors?

Right click in the "Source and Description" column, you can play back the individual file types. See if you get your looping bug there or any anomalies.

Also, there are codecs that can actually over take the 'default direct sound device'. But presently I had no way to show that.
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Post by MadBoris »

Sandalpocalypse wrote:I tried deleting wmspdmod.dll, but reinstalling the WMP codec pak just gives me the same file with the same date, and there's still a problem in the DSFM.

I'll try the K-Lite codec pak.
Whoa there. Deleting wmspdmod.dll is not the solution here. What is the date and version? You are supposed to 10.0.0.3646. If you don';t I can help you fix that.
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Post by Diesel309 »

Excellent Tool mate well done.

Got two files showing red when I attach to X3 ( perfect graph though )

MSCTF.DLL & MSLBUI.DLL but they don't seem to have anything to do with X3 codecs ( MS files one is a language bar and the other something to do with Office )

Should I just ignore or do something about them.

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pixel wrote:I have ASF ACM Handler, this and Windows Media source filter are the only bits in red, and they are red where I have the problem in game - i.e. in SPEECH

2 bits in red is 2 more than 0

A few questions?

You have speech problems cutting out correct?
Next, if you check carefully in filter manager you will notice that your ASF ACM HANDLER is actually a file called dxmasf.dll,6.04.0009.1125
It should not be!
When in a proper working version the ASF ACM Handler(and all the ASF's) should be controlled by wmpasf.dll 10.0.0.3646.

A reinstall of media Player 10 is the first start here. Let me know. Drop me a picture so I can see where the media source filter is. One thing at a time lets focus on the ACM handler and speech. This is the trickiest one in the thread here and just takes some patience. I just finished fixing this exact issue with someone else over a couple daysof troubleshooting, so we will get the speech going. MP10 install first.
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cooldoud wrote:
pixel wrote:Ii.e. there is no other codec to replace what the ASF ACM codec does

please help :cry:
Do you have "WMSpeech Decoder DMO" in the filter manager list ? If you do, try raising its merit, and if you don't, you obviously miss a codec. Considering its name, I guess this is part of the Windows Media codec pack that comes with X3's CD. Try running WMFDIST.exe on your CD and see if this fixes your problem.
Running wmfdist. on a Media Player 10 version is not a good idea. All older files and will cause more problems than helps. The ACM Handler is a bit tricky but I have been working with someone for a few days that just got their speech working so a Media Player 10 install is the start here. Step by step.
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Post by MadBoris »

capirex wrote:Is wm10 bettter for x3 than wm9? (i got the latter at the mo, got the crackle / pop sound prob)
Definitely go for Media Player 10. It does a great job of fixing file version problems from media player 10 and codec issues.
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Jokey77 wrote:has anyone encountered problems with:

HKCYDLL2.dll

CLM1Splter2.ax
CLM2Splter2.ax

This might have an effect in my case... will update you soon...
Yes I ran into clmsplitters, they are a performance killer. Believe it or not they get installed with creative sound cards software suite (for all you audigy owners who installed all the software on the CD). You will want to lower there merit or raise MPEG I Stream splitter to 00800000 (preferred)

Show me a picture I will help with the other.
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Post by MadBoris »

Just a reminder guys. It would really help me to see screen pictures of your situations. I need to to know what "source" the files are part of(MPEG, MP3, etc). You waited this long to get things worked out, so just a bit of patience and you will get it worked out. Tricky issues do come up like the ACM handler that are not as easy as one might think. If it gets lowered the directshow graph for speech breaks, when you would think wmspdmod.dll should take over. The problem is a deeper registry and file issue. But we will tackle the sticky issues too. :)

So if your not sure, just wait, instead of trying things that you are not sure about. Just give me some time and I will get back to you.

I'm glad you guys like it. Hopefully it fixes your crashesd cooldoud, I definitely believe some crashes can lead back to this stuff between codecs and file version issues. Remember a picture on image shack is worth a thousand words. :)
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Post by LV »

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I tried it just for the sake of it but my hardware/tech skills are 0 :)

I dont have any real issue's although I also dont have a game more than a few hours

Anything there that looks troublesome?

If i had glue in here I'd throw some at this, and promote you also ;)

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LV wrote:[ external image ]

I tried it just for the sake of it but my hardware/tech skills are 0 :)

I dont have any real issue's although I also dont have a game more than a few hours

Anything there that looks troublesome?

If i had glue in here I'd throw some at this, and promote you also ;)

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Hehe, thx for the screen pic. This is exactly what I want to see. This is the christmas tree lights I mentioned in my initial topic and this is not good but may not be horrible either but something obviously is off. If you haven't seen any real problems then that is good. What you are seeing is most likely due to improperly registered codecs or orphaned registry entries. Sometimes it is as easy as re-registering a particular codec.
Filmerit is a good tool that actually shows some diagnostics of filters if you want to look at it, maybe you will see some that are in error. We will cross the bridge then.
http://www.free-codecs.com/download/Filmerit.htm

First off you can see clearly that Zone alarm has it's greedy spam claws around your X3 game, so that could hurt your performance and you probably should do something about that, X3 isn't spam is it ? ;)

Real issues may take more than a few hours to manifest, but I would say you would be very likely dealing with a performance hit atleast.

Here's how to most likely over come this:
Open Direct Show Manager and find MPEG I Stream Splitter
Double click on it. In the top right you can adjust the merit raise it to PREFERRRED 00800000, then click "Set Merit". Then reboot your computer(a reboot is required for merit changes to actually take effect) and try attaching to X3 again, some if not all of that red should disappear.
Send me another pic or let me know.

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