Freezing not fixed after patch

Post by **euclid** » Mon, 14. Nov 05, 10:54

Check this and that.

I'm well aware that not all of you are using ATI gfx but it may point you in the right direction. Check your EventLog (control panel, Admin. tools) for messages which could be related to the freeze (check time).

Hope that helps.

Cheers Euclid

Skeletal · Post by **Skeletal** » Mon, 14. Nov 05, 23:24

Interesting idea Euclid, I’ll try to find the log…won’t be able to for a couple of days as I won’t have time.

I have to laugh at this, I could not get on to the Ego site last night…the computer froze every time I tried…only the Ego site was affected!

I’ve still not seen any comments from Ego on the freezing issue…it’s a bit worrying as I am wondering if it will be fixed in the next patch.

I’ve mentioned it before but specs are (as far as I remember!):
Athlon 2700XP
ASUS mobo
1G DDR RAM (400 I think)
ATI 9600XT (oldish drivers around 5.3 I think…I could try upgrading but have never noticed a great improvement…ATI never seemed interested in optimising drivers for X2, so probably wont for X3. I am using the .net control panel…I don’t have problems other than it is a bit slow to fire up)
Win XP pro SP2
Old Creative sound card (not too interested in sound from computers…it’s all c*** compared to real hi-fi, IMHO of course!)
Standard game “normal” setting

To be honest, this problem seems to be affecting all sorts of systems at all sorts of times.

Skeletal

Hoops71 · Post by **Hoops71** » Tue, 15. Nov 05, 12:04

Well getting rid of CCC seems to have worked! Ive managed to play for more than 5 minutes without freezing. So this is definately something you need to try if you have an ATI card.

Alfred Bester · Post by **Alfred Bester** » Tue, 15. Nov 05, 12:17

after patching the game I am getting freezes only when using seta x6 and left wondering if it is the seta and the graphics card not being able to handle it my graphics card is a GeForce FX 5600

I doubt it. I have a FX6800GT, and I too get freezes, but only when I run SETA

KarlHemmings · Post by **KarlHemmings** » Tue, 15. Nov 05, 12:31

I too get random freezes, with or without SETA running after circa 2 to 3 hours play.
CPU / Graphic card etc. temperature all fine.
Music plays in a continual loop but game does not respond.
Did a de-frag, drivers etc are either latest or latest stable versions.
I have to hard boot my machine to get out of it.
AMD Athlon 64 3500+
1 gig ram
GForce 6800GT (256mb)

Could it be a swap file problem? If so what should it be set to?

Alfred Bester · Post by **Alfred Bester** » Tue, 15. Nov 05, 14:06

I don't think its a swap file problem. It is standard for WinXP to adjust the swapfile size to demand

muppetts · Post by **muppetts** » Tue, 15. Nov 05, 15:06

Same here, freezing started after new patch, Seta seems to bring it on faster but it happens after about 20min of normal play, unistalled unitl next patch.

giskard · Post by **giskard** » Tue, 15. Nov 05, 16:00

I started experiencing this after 4 hours of continious play whilst trading manually.

I found 4 things started happening after the 1.2.01 patch was released.

1) My saved games have increased in size by about 1 meg, from 5 to 6 meg.
2) They take longer to load than before.
3) After loading the game seems to be doing some intensive cpu work in the back ground for about 1 minute.
4) After several hours of play the freezing starts.

My specs are posted in the lvl5 feedback forum.

Giskard

muppetts · Post by **muppetts** » Tue, 15. Nov 05, 17:12

I have updated to the new Nvidea driver no change.

I now also get a freeze a couple of seconds after entering Maelstrom this has happened 5 times in a row so is specific. These Freezes occured without having Seta on.

I also played for about an hour not using SETA and experienced no problems until Maelstrom.

Xp
Plot game

Skeletal · Post by **Skeletal** » Tue, 15. Nov 05, 21:22

Muppetts, I’d be really interested for you to load the game just prior to your jump to Maelstrom, then to save it and re-load. Then try your jump. If you don’t get the freeze it would tie up with what I get.

I’ll have to get round to trying some ATI tricks…problem is that I just want to play the game, not run experiments…it’s what I spend some of my time doing at work!

Skeletal

Pendel · Post by **Pendel** » Tue, 15. Nov 05, 22:18

Well. After reading several topics which are about freezings and music loops with different kind of system configurations and patches and driver updates and so on, the last thing to say is that the game causes all these crashes. Like I said before the only thing to prevent those crashes in the future will be a patch which concentrates on the points I just mentioned. Haven't played X³ now for 5 days because of multiple crashes and freezes in a row.

Another question. When will 1.3 be released? Tomorrow? Or the day after tomorrow? haven't read anything about it besides mid November.

I don't think it's necessary to post my system configurations here again. Cause I've seen many users who have to deal with the same problem and all have different pc's.

Goatboy · Post by **Goatboy** » Tue, 15. Nov 05, 22:25

Having the same problems here.

Freezing seems to becoming more common.

taronas · Post by **taronas** » Tue, 15. Nov 05, 22:46

Unfortunately I have to report that I also get those freezes now

With 1.2 I got the CDTs in the end. Then came 1.2.01 which fixed those crashes.

But now I start to get those random freezes with the sound loops like all others here

IMHO, it can only be the game. Run fine in the beginning, after some days I got those CDTs. Same with version 1.2.01: game run fine for some days and now suddenly I get those freezes

AMD64 3200+
GF 7800GTX
2GB DDR Corsair
an old SB Live

mbelcher25 · Post by **mbelcher25** » Tue, 15. Nov 05, 23:03

Been playing fine for several days, on 1.2.1 patch with no probs. All of a sudden today it started freezing. Seems to be a game-time related thing, as though some time related event in the game is the culprit.

Have to CtrlAltDel out of it.

I'm playing the trader game...freezing seems to occur where ever I happen to be. Tried going back to an earlier Autosave (about 5 minutes earlier), and the game seemed to run about 5 minutes longer before freezing. Could be just a coincidence, but the last time I happened to be in Ore Belt and saw two Kahk clusters (haven't seen any kahk at all in the game so far) spawn just seconds before it locked up.

Windows XP SP2
3.2 gHz CPU
1 Gig RAM
ATI RADEON x800GT w/ latest drivers

Post by **CBJ** » Wed, 16. Nov 05, 01:03

Is anyone who is having this problem able to reproduce this repeatably? For example using a savegame which always freezes after a certain amount of time? Or is this really random?

Pendel · Post by **Pendel** » Wed, 16. Nov 05, 01:25

For me it's absolutely random. Ok. Once I reloaded a savegame twice and had the problem at the same time in the same sector. But when I tried it the next day and flew the same route it didn't freeze at the earlier point. But it came then later again after 30 mins of playing. But this one I wasn't able to reproduce. I was able to play after reloading for about an hour and than it froze again. Everytime in different sectors besides the first freezes I explained here.

mbelcher25 · Post by **mbelcher25** » Wed, 16. Nov 05, 02:29

Belay my last...after several retrys I have been able to continue playing. I have no idea at this point what caused the freezing...seems to be random. Nothing in system or application event logs.

I have been playing now for two hours with no futher problems....

BTW EGOSOFT, this is an AWESOME game!!!!

Been waiting for a game like this for 30 years. You have a fan for life!

Goatboy · Post by **Goatboy** » Wed, 16. Nov 05, 03:26

Random here. Crashed in the same place (-ish) a couple of times, but thats it.

taronas · Post by **taronas** » Wed, 16. Nov 05, 11:57

Not quite sure but It might be that those freezes happen always in certain sectors.

When it freezed the first time I was in Split Fire. Reloaded last save, continued my business, ended up in Split Fire again, freeze again at some time. Reloaded and this time went on doing something different. Worked for about two hours and then another freeze - don't remember where I was at that time.

Yesterday I got a freeze again in Split Fire. But two others in other parts of the universe.

I can play for about 30 in to 3 hours between freezes.
So, perhas a pattern, perhaps just coincidence.

I will pay closer attention to the sectors I'm in If I dare to continue playing today. It' kind of frustrating to know that the game will freeze at some point and you have to redo lots of work

KarlHemmings · Post by **KarlHemmings** » Wed, 16. Nov 05, 12:14

I tried most of my current save games last night - took some doing - all freeze after 1 to 3 hours of play. I have 5 or 6 days game play; one mini complex (Bio+BoFu) and prehaps another 4 standalone factories, one UT and one other TS (I am flying a Demeter most of the time and a Falcon when I need to).
Does not seem to matter what sector I am in either. Reduced SETA from 8 to 6 to 4, no difference. Does not seem to matter if SETA is running or not (got one freeze whilst on idle in a sector doing some checking on factories and ships, I was in my Falcon at the time). Twice the freeze occured as I was entering a sector, different sector on each occasion; both times in my Demeter.
Oh - I got that old x2 thing a couple of times on entering a sector the screen is blank but the game is running (shift+j, enter, enter - i.e. jump to a gate in the sector; that sorts it out).

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