[MOD] Foundation of Conquest and War V. 7.2

[TehGM]

Question: will we get update on the same day as 4.0 and CoH, like VRO?
Mainly asking cause VRO and FOCW are the 2 mods that I really want to play with.

[BlackRain]

Question: will we get update on the same day as 4.0 and CoH, like VRO?
Mainly asking cause VRO and FOCW are the 2 mods that I really want to play with.

Well, I mean, I didn't get a copy of COH yet lol

As for whether this mod will work, it will absolutely still work just fine. It just won't have options for Terran ships. So you don't have to worry. I doubt it will impact the Terrans that much anyway since I am sure they will be well defended, etc. There should be no compatibility issues.

[TehGM]

Question: will we get update on the same day as 4.0 and CoH, like VRO?
Mainly asking cause VRO and FOCW are the 2 mods that I really want to play with.

Well, I mean, I didn't get a copy of COH yet lol

As for whether this mod will work, it will absolutely still work just fine. It just won't have options for Terran ships. So you don't have to worry. I doubt it will impact the Terrans that much anyway since I am sure they will be well defended, etc. There should be no compatibility issues.

Ah shame, i thought you might've gotten an early copy like VRO author did. You should! v0v
I know that there will be no compability issues, but I remember what happened when I played after Split release - cause I boosted everyone except Split (cause it was not possible), they were getting completely obliterated. For this reason I'd prefer to wait, unless you're confident you can prepare the update within 1 day or so - but of course it's understandable if it'll take more time, we all have our lives.
Thanks for quick response either way. \o/

[BlackRain]

Question: will we get update on the same day as 4.0 and CoH, like VRO?
Mainly asking cause VRO and FOCW are the 2 mods that I really want to play with.

Well, I mean, I didn't get a copy of COH yet lol

As for whether this mod will work, it will absolutely still work just fine. It just won't have options for Terran ships. So you don't have to worry. I doubt it will impact the Terrans that much anyway since I am sure they will be well defended, etc. There should be no compatibility issues.

Ah shame, i thought you might've gotten an early copy like VRO author did. You should! v0v
I know that there will be no compability issues, but I remember what happened when I played after Split release - cause I boosted everyone except Split (cause it was not possible), they were getting completely obliterated. For this reason I'd prefer to wait, unless you're confident you can prepare the update within 1 day or so - but of course it's understandable if it'll take more time, we all have our lives.
Thanks for quick response either way. \o/

Hehe, only Shuulo is too cool for school I guess

I think Split is unique though because they are surrounded by enemies. Terrans seem like they will be completely closed off so I doubt it will impact them much but it won't be too difficult to get something up for them asap.

[kyrah]

Thank you for your detailed explanation!

[BlackRain]

FOCW Version 6.0
1) Added configuration options for Terrans. Only turn it on if you have the Terran DLC.
2) Hatikvah will now order ships from either Argon/Antigone/Teladi/Ministry/Alliance if you have them turned on
3) Some minor fixes here and there

[TehGM]

FOCW Version 6.0
1) Added configuration options for Terrans. Only turn it on if you have the Terran DLC.
2) Hatikvah will now order ships from either Argon/Antigone/Teladi/Ministry/Alliance if you have them turned on
3) Some minor fixes here and there

Sweet! I bought a beer for X4 (well, not exactly, but when I remembered 4.0 comes out, I decided to use it that way), but decided to wait for FOCW update, and was just battling CSS and VS SASS integration for my project in the meantime.
Now you saved me from CSS (well, until later time anyway lol). Cheers!

[BlackRain]

FOCW Version 6.0
1) Added configuration options for Terrans. Only turn it on if you have the Terran DLC.
2) Hatikvah will now order ships from either Argon/Antigone/Teladi/Ministry/Alliance if you have them turned on
3) Some minor fixes here and there

Sweet! I bought a beer for X4 (well, not exactly, but when I remembered 4.0 comes out, I decided to use it that way), but decided to wait for FOCW update, and was just battling CSS and VS SASS integration for my project in the meantime.
Now you saved me from CSS (well, until later time anyway lol). Cheers!

It wasn't difficult to do since I already had everything set up, it was just a matter of copy and pasting ships in jobs and adding in a few more lines of code here and there. Took me about an hour to do it all.

[sanctific]

Hi BlackRain!

Would your mod be compatible with DeadAir's Jobs Mod? And would it make sense at all to use his Jobs sub-mod if I strongly intend to stick to FOCW?

[BlackRain]

Hi BlackRain!

Would your mod be compatible with DeadAir's Jobs Mod? And would it make sense at all to use his Jobs sub-mod if I strongly intend to stick to FOCW?

My mod adds additional ships and fleets and does not change the existing jobs. DeadAir's Jobs Mod changes the existing jobs. This means they are fully compatible. Now, how he changes jobs I don't know. They can both be used just fine together, but I have no idea how the game will play out overall. It would most likely be fine.

[sanctific]

Hi BlackRain!

Would your mod be compatible with DeadAir's Jobs Mod? And would it make sense at all to use his Jobs sub-mod if I strongly intend to stick to FOCW?

My mod adds additional ships and fleets and does not change the existing jobs. DeadAir's Jobs Mod changes the existing jobs. This means they are fully compatible. Now, how he changes jobs I don't know. They can both be used just fine together, but I have no idea how the game will play out overall. It would most likely be fine.

Thanks a lot for the answer!

[BlackRain]

Hi BlackRain!

Would your mod be compatible with DeadAir's Jobs Mod? And would it make sense at all to use his Jobs sub-mod if I strongly intend to stick to FOCW?

My mod adds additional ships and fleets and does not change the existing jobs. DeadAir's Jobs Mod changes the existing jobs. This means they are fully compatible. Now, how he changes jobs I don't know. They can both be used just fine together, but I have no idea how the game will play out overall. It would most likely be fine.

Thanks a lot for the answer!

By the way, I should add that my mod doesn't just add more ships, it also forces them to get built. Other people who just edit jobs.xml and change quotas and such in there doesn't guarantee those ships will get built. My ships will be built eventually as long as the factions can build them. Of course if the faction can't build them, then they obviously won't get built. Although factions do build the ships specified in jobs, it is not consistent.

[DeadAirRT]

By the way, I should add that my mod doesn't just add more ships, it also forces them to get built. Other people who just edit jobs.xml and change quotas and such in there doesn't guarantee those ships will get built. My ships will be built eventually as long as the factions can build them. Of course if the faction can't build them, then they obviously won't get built. Although factions do build the ships specified in jobs, it is not consistent.

To add on, I don't change spawning from vanilla. Added jobs that aren't handled properly like blackrain's will cause spawning on first load. Both mods handle different jobs and should have no issues together.

[BlackRain]

By the way, I should add that my mod doesn't just add more ships, it also forces them to get built. Other people who just edit jobs.xml and change quotas and such in there doesn't guarantee those ships will get built. My ships will be built eventually as long as the factions can build them. Of course if the faction can't build them, then they obviously won't get built. Although factions do build the ships specified in jobs, it is not consistent.

To add on, I don't change spawning from vanilla. Added jobs that aren't handled properly like blackrain's will cause spawning on first load. Both mods handle different jobs and should have no issues together.

Ah I see, my mistake. I wasn't sure if you had changed the existing jobs or added new ones.

[raim729]

Hello, where is the to turn on? 1) Added configuration options for Terrans. Only turn it on if you have the Terran DLC.

Or has already taken place?

Had already done wrong.

[BlackRain]

Hello, where is the to turn on? 1) Added configuration options for Terrans. Only turn it on if you have the Terran DLC.

Or has already taken place?

Had already done wrong.

You have to edit the focwsetup file to turn it on, it is in the configuration options like all the others.

[sanctific]

Hi BlackRain,

I've noticed that Xenon in CoH are much less active and are nowhere even close to the threat they were with FOCW (Apocalypse+Caps settings) in 3.3.

I'm now @ 80 hours mark in my CoH playthrough, Xenon have expanded to Turquoise Sea only at this point, they manage to keep their starting systems though.

I believe that these differenced between pre-CoH & CoH FOCW are related to how efficiency of resources gathering was affected by the expansion, so now the question to you - if the ratio of resources ships in FOCW jobs would be doubled/tripled, would that work to help Xenon or something would break the mod?

P.S: Just for comparison - in 3.3 with FOCW Xenon would totally destroy HAT+MIN+ZYA+TEL (at least, more likely that ANT+ARG+FRF would also be gone) by 80th hour unless a player would intervene...Miss that race of time & resources to actually save "organics" against the machines

[BlackRain]

Hi BlackRain,

I've noticed that Xenon in CoH are much less active and are nowhere even close to the threat they were with FOCW (Apocalypse+Caps settings) in 3.3.

I'm now @ 80 hours mark in my CoH playthrough, Xenon have expanded to Turquoise Sea only at this point, they manage to keep their starting systems though.

I believe that these differenced between pre-CoH & CoH FOCW are related to how efficiency of resources gathering was affected by the expansion, so now the question to you - if the ratio of resources ships in FOCW jobs would be doubled/tripled, would that work to help Xenon or something would break the mod?

P.S: Just for comparison - in 3.3 with FOCW Xenon would totally destroy HAT+MIN+ZYA+TEL (at least, more likely that ANT+ARG+FRF would also be gone) by 80th hour unless a player would intervene...Miss that race of time & resources to actually save "organics" against the machines

Hmm, well I think the issue with COH is that the Terrans actively go after the Xenon no matter where they may be and now that there are more xenon sectors, the Xenon ships are spread out more. You can try increasing the number of resource ships if you like but where they are built would be random. I haven't done any extensive testing of this so you can give it a try if you know what you are doing.

[sanctific]

Hi BlackRain,

I've noticed that Xenon in CoH are much less active and are nowhere even close to the threat they were with FOCW (Apocalypse+Caps settings) in 3.3.

I'm now @ 80 hours mark in my CoH playthrough, Xenon have expanded to Turquoise Sea only at this point, they manage to keep their starting systems though.

I believe that these differenced between pre-CoH & CoH FOCW are related to how efficiency of resources gathering was affected by the expansion, so now the question to you - if the ratio of resources ships in FOCW jobs would be doubled/tripled, would that work to help Xenon or something would break the mod?

P.S: Just for comparison - in 3.3 with FOCW Xenon would totally destroy HAT+MIN+ZYA+TEL (at least, more likely that ANT+ARG+FRF would also be gone) by 80th hour unless a player would intervene...Miss that race of time & resources to actually save "organics" against the machines

Hmm, well I think the issue with COH is that the Terrans actively go after the Xenon no matter where they may be and now that there are more xenon sectors, the Xenon ships are spread out more. You can try increasing the number of resource ships if you like but where they are built would be random. I haven't done any extensive testing of this so you can give it a try if you know what you are doing.

Thanks for the reply!

Will give it a try, will post it here if increasing resource ships for Xenon would do them any good.

[BlackRain]

Hi BlackRain,

I've noticed that Xenon in CoH are much less active and are nowhere even close to the threat they were with FOCW (Apocalypse+Caps settings) in 3.3.

I'm now @ 80 hours mark in my CoH playthrough, Xenon have expanded to Turquoise Sea only at this point, they manage to keep their starting systems though.

I believe that these differenced between pre-CoH & CoH FOCW are related to how efficiency of resources gathering was affected by the expansion, so now the question to you - if the ratio of resources ships in FOCW jobs would be doubled/tripled, would that work to help Xenon or something would break the mod?

P.S: Just for comparison - in 3.3 with FOCW Xenon would totally destroy HAT+MIN+ZYA+TEL (at least, more likely that ANT+ARG+FRF would also be gone) by 80th hour unless a player would intervene...Miss that race of time & resources to actually save "organics" against the machines

Hmm, well I think the issue with COH is that the Terrans actively go after the Xenon no matter where they may be and now that there are more xenon sectors, the Xenon ships are spread out more. You can try increasing the number of resource ships if you like but where they are built would be random. I haven't done any extensive testing of this so you can give it a try if you know what you are doing.

Thanks for the reply!

Will give it a try, will post it here if increasing resource ships for Xenon would do them any good.

Another option would be to not add in any extra ships for all the other factions and only add the extra ships for xenon maybe. Also, some good options to have for Xenon for maybe more activity would be the following:

<set_value name="$activatemoreXenonCaps" exact="1" />

<set_value name="$activateXenonApocalypse" exact="1" />

<set_value name="$activateXencardefend" exact="1" />