Some tips on performance

Post by **CBJ** » Sat, 4. Dec 04, 13:44

Yes, that info should be enough, thanks. A few suggestions:

- Try turning off bumpmapping. The GF4 Ti4200 should be able to cope, but if it is struggling then the cutscenes will be the first place it will show. That doesn't explain why the nVidia intro is using so much processor time, but it is worth a try anyway.
- Try reverting to an older graphics driver. Sometimes newest isn't best, especially when you aren't using the latest hardware. We've had all kinds of weird results with people finding huge differences between driver versions.
- I'm slightly surprised disabling the sound didn't change anything. Did you also remove the drivers when you did this, or did you leave them there? It shouldn't really matter but you can never tell with Windows.

p_auker · Post by **p_auker** » Sat, 4. Dec 04, 19:48

Hello again,

Removed drivers for onboard devices such as LAN/Sound as i know they use the CPU power to function and then disabled them at BIOS level. Ended all processes that aren't part of windows.

Reverted Nvidia drivers right back to last year but still no joy.

Downloaded the rolling demo and still get 100% CPU usage with that as well. Does any one else get 100% CPU usage throughout or is it just me?

Its the only program that gets this, i can't think whats not functioning correctly for it to put everything through the CPU, even then my CPU should still cope with it.

Completely lost

Kimmo · Post by **Kimmo** » Tue, 8. Feb 05, 22:18

HELP....My x2 crashes to desktop after I go to the antigone memorial to compare data on their files....Then I get the information to get the LFS or something and when I try to go back to space the game crashes!...Anyone else encountering the same problem?

Kimmo · Post by **Kimmo** » Tue, 8. Feb 05, 23:14

Please help me about the antigone problem....but by the way this is funny but my game flows MUCH faster now when I increased my game resolution!...never happened before:D....but better this way:D

The_Abyss · Post by **The_Abyss** » Wed, 9. Feb 05, 07:46

Kimmo wrote:Please help me about the antigone problem....but by the way this is funny but my game flows MUCH faster now when I increased my game resolution!...never happened before:D....but better this way:D

Some graphics cards today DO render quicker at higher resolutions - this isn't the game.

Have you tried going back to a previous save for the Antigone error, to see if it repeats itself?

Kimmo · Post by **Kimmo** » Wed, 9. Feb 05, 10:19

Welll I have gone to the previous previous save....ofcouse I could go to the previous previous previous save and try then...

The_Abyss · Post by **The_Abyss** » Wed, 9. Feb 05, 10:53

Please maintain posting a problem in just one thread and not dulicating over 2. I would suggest the other one would be better.

D_Zorro · Post by **D_Zorro** » Sat, 19. Mar 05, 22:48

A question about performens about x2 under windows 2000 and windows XP.
I notice that under win2000 my game is more stable, and works a lot faster.
What is the real diffrence between XP and 2000 ??? They seem to look a lot a like, but hardly can't make the diffrence between the two, other then 2000 is more stable, i don't get since xp is suppose to be stable too right ??

DZorro,

Pazuzu2 · Post by **Pazuzu2** » Sun, 20. Mar 05, 04:21

XP n 2000 are based on the same kernel.. so there really isn't much of a difference other than faster shutdown/loadup times.. also 2000 is soon not to be "supported" by all mighty Microsoft.. I think 2005 is the last year it will be supported.. XP is 2007 if I'm not mistaken.. ME is no longer supported and all others before. Some people still use Windows 95 in their businesses... yikes, makes me wonder if I should even conduct business with them.

dzhedzho · Post by **dzhedzho** » Fri, 15. Apr 05, 11:24

Pazuzu2 wrote:XP n 2000 are based on the same kernel.. so there really isn't much of a difference other than faster shutdown/loadup times.. also 2000 is soon not to be "supported" by all mighty Microsoft.. I think 2005 is the last year it will be supported.. XP is 2007 if I'm not mistaken.. ME is no longer supported and all others before. Some people still use Windows 95 in their businesses... yikes, makes me wonder if I should even conduct business with them.

You know 2000 is very save to use this days, as most viruses target XP, thus the chance to get ucatchable virus on xp is way higher than for 2000. Personally never had instability of X2 on xp machine, except ones after critical update, before SP2

pjknibbs · Post by **pjknibbs** » Sat, 16. Apr 05, 08:31

dzhedzho wrote: You know 2000 is very save to use this days, as most viruses target XP

Most NEW viruses target XP. There are plenty of old ones still doing the rounds which will get your Windows 2000 system no problem at all...not to mention the ones which rely on bugs on the software INSTALLED on Windows (e.g. IE, Outlook Express etc).

dzhedzho · Post by **dzhedzho** » Sun, 17. Apr 05, 20:42

uncatchable is a keyword, you may have missed. What I mean is that if today someone makes a virus for xp, and i use xp, and contract it, i will have to go through the pain of waiting some time before the virus becomes known and 'cure' is released. Without theorising, i can say that the XP computer's at our uni, get sick quite more often than the NT or 2000 ones. Personally i do not have windows version preferrence, I am running 2000 on my net machine, as it is low end, old computer, and is used only for word processing and net browsing, thus i have decided that installling xp is unjustified expense. Of course I run XP on my newer PC's.

l0rd steven · Post by **l0rd steven** » Sat, 23. Jul 05, 08:27

hey, my specs r the same with JrStonewall's and like he says, it runs pretty good. Except for when i eject a dolphin's full load of lasertowers in xenon sectors, though...

Jean Luc 2000 · Post by **Jean Luc 2000** » Sun, 2. Oct 05, 18:25

Although I haven't played X2 for a long while I enjoyed it a lot (I got frustrated with having to replace cargo ships every time a Khaak cluster arrived in a sector!) and I'm going to buy X3.

I was thinking about treating myself to a new graphics card. I don't know which one to get but it’s either going to be a 6800 GT or an X800 XL. Generally which brand of graphics card (Geforce or the Radeon) gives the better performance?

Post by **CBJ** » Sun, 2. Oct 05, 18:51

There's a lot of discussion of new graphics cards in the off-topic forum. It isn't the brand of card that gives better performance, it is the model you choose. Both of the two you mention are good cards, but if it comes down to a choice between one with 128Mb and one with 256Mb then it is likely to be worth choosing the one with more memory.

cmcooper · Post by **cmcooper** » Wed, 5. Oct 05, 22:02

Well, i've had problems with this game for a little while on both NVidia and ATI cards and a number of computers. One thing I did neglect was spyware ( yuk ) and downloaded Spybot. Ran it, 138 entries deleted later and X2 runs like a dream. From 10fps to 60+ even with the briefings and the graphic settings full on ( minus shadows ). I'm running 1.8ghz with an ATI Radeon 8500 and 256 MB RAM. Hope this helps.

TSO · Post by **TSO** » Sun, 13. Nov 05, 03:21

I got about:

2.0Ghz CPU...
750MB RAM or so...
256 MB GFX Geforce card...(Maybe lower (can't really find it))
Windows NT 2004 (I belive)

I turn everything I can down... And it's ok but when i use the excelerator or get into a battle it gets choopyer then hell...

It would be more fun if I wasn't stuck to tradeing

...

Any advice?...(56k modem connection as well so big downloads arn't gona help)

Rheged · Post by **Rheged** » Thu, 9. Feb 06, 04:05

Hi there, just bought X2 of ebay and am thoroughly enjoying it, except for the frame rate issues. My specs are:
Win98SE
AMD Duron 1300 MHz
512 Mb SDR RAM
GeForce MX 4000 128Mb AGP graphics card with 81.98 driver set
Running machine on a small 100Mb household LAN with a zonealarm firewall installed at the O/S level.

Have tried turning on/off AQC, turned off bumpmapping, adjusting forced MipMap on the graphics card, closing background applications such as BOINC and zonealarm, adjusting resolution from 640x480 up to 1200x1024 in both 16 and 32 bit, have set graphics performance preferences to high and back through to quality, have tried updating drivers for graphics card. Tried to update drivers for motherboard, but no new drivers out there yet. Tried checking the AGP texturing in dx9, but this was greyed out and no option for AGP bus was in the device manager, though motherboard manual states that the bus is on the board.

To date, my best framerate was 28.706 fps, with very little variance from this. Worst performance is in the boron systems and the other cloudy places.

Any suggestions?

Post by **CBJ** » Thu, 9. Feb 06, 11:48

The simple answer is that your PC is too slow. The processor is really going to struggle, as will the graphics card. On a laptop with a similar graphics card and a much faster processor I was averaging around 18fps in-game at 800x600 with shadows and bumpmapping off. If you've achieved more than that then I'm afraid that's about as good as you'll get with that system.

Rheged · Post by **Rheged** » Thu, 9. Feb 06, 17:24

Oh well. Time for an upgrade then (wallet crawls away and hides in corner). Thanks for the reply.

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