[X3TC Bonus Plugin] Commercial Agent (CAG)

[Legionnaire]

I havent tried using this depth myself, but just from reading your post, try setting purchase to 50% as well.

The Agent will buy intermediate wares if their stock at the complex is below this value. This value is also when selling intermediate wares; the Agent will always leave at least this much in the complex in order to safeguard production.

Legionnaire

[naisha]

Yes but in case it drops bellow 50% i dont want them to buy it ...

Meanwhile ive set my traders to a specific job, Salesman/Shopper so i dont have conflict between buy/sell stuff, this obviously required more ships to cover all my needs which atm i cannot afford.
Tho even this way, ive set for example my salesman to sell Rastar oil down to 50% stock but he kept selling until it reached 0 , as if it doesnt cares ive specifically set

Sell products : 50%


Sell Products
The Agent will sell stock down to this level.

Im not sure these restrictions work as they should (duh, stating the obvious lol) or again its me doing something wrong.

[amishriot]

clearly im doing something wrong so any help would be greatly appreciated. Here is my set up

Argon Prime complex Solar power plant and crystal fab
Silicon Mine Herron's Nebula

All I want is for one ship to pick up energy from the complex and take it to my silicon mine, pick up silicon wafers and bring them back to my complex in argon prime. I use to have 2 separate ships doing this but with CAG it seems like 1 tanker should be able to do both.

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CAG settings
Pilot is a dealer

Wares list
E-cells
Silicon Wafers

Exceptions
Stations
every station in argon prime and herron's nebula except my 2 stations
Sectors
Argon Prime
Herron's Nebula
Sector list type (trade list)
the 3 "only trade with" are all set to "No"

Trade duties
Trader
Purchace resources 100% - i want to keep the complex full of silicon
Sell products 20% - to keep at least 20@ of the energy in the complex
Sell products freighter cargo 90%
purchase intermediate products 20%
sell intermediate products 80%
Credit balance 30,000
quit working in home base "NO"

Station settings
Trade range (1 jump) he only needs to goto Herron's and back
Home sector Argon prime

jump No
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My mine is 100% full of wafers and has zero energy. My complex is 100% full of energy but has zero wafers. The CAG just sits on standby instead of taking energy to the mine and bringing wafers back. Basically i want the CAG to act as an inter-sector complex tube. I have tried making adjustments but can not figure out how to make it do this simple task. Any help would be greatly appreciated

I'm not sure how to retrieve the logs to post

[Legionnaire]

I think CLS might be better for what you are trying to do there rather than CAG.

Legionnaire

[amishriot]

ya i was able to get it to do what i wanted with the external trader. It's better then nothing but i was hoping for something that I could control a bit more. The CLS will strip every last bit of energy out of my complex and cause it to the factory to shut down for a while. I came back from afk one time to find all of my energy and crystal was gone and the factory was just doing nothing.

More importantly I guess I was just using that run sort of as an experiment to learn how to use the CAG

[drkpendragon]

Hello, I have a problem in one of my factories. Using default CAG settings, my two CAGs will buy, but not sell. The main reason I am confused is because I have a similar factory in which the CAGs are both selling and buying without issue. My prices are set in such that there are 0 jumps to find a buyer. Any ideas? I'm quite new at using this specific software and am playing vanilla with the bonus pack.

[Legionnaire]

It's most likely the pilots havent leveled up enough on purchasing items yet, they need to get a higher level before they can start selling, 2nd Rank, Courier before they will sell.

If you are close to Herrons Nebula you could try flying your ships to the trading station there, then try firing and rehiring the pilots from in the control screen until you get one with a higher rank than apprentice, I've managed to pic up a couple of pilots at Major Dealer rank doing this.

Legionnaire

[drkpendragon]

Oh, that makes sense! I didn't realize that they needed to be rank 2. My first factories CAGs ranked up by buying energy cells, but not my second factory. Thanks!

[Maxces C Covert]

My trade is so jacked. The current CAG I have just don't work. I have tried everything (I think) and they just sit there on stand by. I hope it's just a code error of something from a bad (20th) install.

[X2-Illuminatus]

Without any further information it's impossible to help you. A log generated by the Analysis to Log function would be a good start.

[Nagittchi]

If I give him a high jump range, will he foolishly go into Pirate/Xenon Sectors even though I set them as Foe? Do I have to individually blacklist every Xenon/Pirate sector?

Edit: So I'm trying to test CAG out and its not working. I built a microchip complex that requires about 200 imported crystals to maintain the energy cell level and I wanted to use CAG instead of "Buy ware at best price".

My crystal inventory is always at most 3% and I made my CAG try to keep the inventory at 50% stock, set the guy to Shopper... but he's still on Standby. There's Crystal three jumps down selling for 1700..

What gives?

[Maxces C Covert]

It's most likely the pilots havent leveled up enough on purchasing items yet, they need to get a higher level before they can start selling, 2nd Rank, Courier before they will sell.

If you are close to Herrons Nebula you could try flying your ships to the trading station there, then try firing and rehiring the pilots from in the control screen until you get one with a higher rank than apprentice, I've managed to pic up a couple of pilots at Major Dealer rank doing this.

Legionnaire

The rank of the pilot helps. My CAG still gets stuck with out a foreseeable reason. I'm going through the logs and I see a few mistakes I have had. I hope the next time I try this it'll work. FRACKING A!

[Saetan]

Nagittchi:
If you post a complete log ("Analysis to Log"-feature, log can be found in a textfile beneath your savegame directory) it would be easier to help you.

[Maxces C Covert]

I'm trying my best to straighten it out. But this is what I have so far.


Commercial Agent

Script version: 3303
Libraries version: 3409
Pilot Union version: 3401

Pilot: Warron Marval
Pilot rank: Apprentice
Flight time: 0:03 hour
Employ time: 6:42 hour
Payment: 0 credits
Profit: 0 credits
Expenses: 0 credits

Promotion: Yes
Payment: Station account
Agreement with colleagues: Yes

Ship name: CAG EVO BSF E-Trader 1 A-TSH
Ship class: TS
Ship type: Baldric Super Freighter
Transport class: Huge Containers XXL
Cargo bay size: 9999 units
Cargo bay volume: 249 units

Relation to Argon: Neutral
Relation to Boron: Neutral
Relation to Split: Neutral
Relation to Paranid: Neutral
Relation to Teladi: Neutral
Relation to Xenon: Foe
Relation to Kha'ak: Foe
Relation to Pirates: Neutral
Relation to Goner: Neutral
Relation to ATF: Neutral
Relation to Terran: Neutral
Relation to Yaki: Foe

Fight Command Software MK1: installed
Fight Command Software MK2: installed

Supply Command Software: installed

Jump Drive: installed
Jump Drive: activated
Jump Drive: not allowed
Jump Drive energy: 500 energy cells
Jump Drive minimum jumps: 1 jumps

Home base: Solar Power Plant XL Alpha (Oort Cloud)
Home base class: Factory
Home base type: Terran Solar Power Plant XL
Trade jumps: 20 jumps
Station account: 4,087,032 credits
Global account: 12,255,457 credits

Black list stations: -
Trade list sectors: Asteroid Belt, Circle Of Labour, Gamma 1, Gamma 2, Gamma 3, Heretic's End, Jupiter, Kuiper Belt, Mars, Neptune, Nyana's Hideout, Omicron Lyrae, Oort Cloud, Pluto, PTNI Headquarters, Pyramid Income, Saturn, Scale Plate Green, Titan, Uranus, Uranus 2, Venus

Only trade with satellite network sectors: No
Only trade in sectors with a jumpgate: Yes
Only trade with non-player bases: No

Trader job: Shopper
Purchase resources: 80 %
Sell products: 20 %
Sell products freighter cargo bay: 30 %
Purchase intermediate products: 10 %
Sell intermediate products: 80 %
Purchase stations credit balance: 30,000 credits

Home sector: Oort Cloud
Home jumps: 11 jumps

Ware list type: Trade list
Ware list: Crystals

Tradeable ware from home base:
P Energy Cells: price 18 credits, cargo bay 46,165 units, cargo bay 92 %
R Crystals: price 1,582 credits, cargo bay 1,240 units, cargo bay 12 %

Energy Cells (Product (CAG search engine))
Impulse Ray Emitter Forge Alpha (Omicron Lyrae): price 19 credits, cargo bay 14 units, cargo bay 0 % ( Free )
Computer Plant Beta (PTNI Headquarters): price 19 credits, cargo bay 15 units, cargo bay 0 % ( Free )
Camera Drone Factory Alpha (PTNI Headquarters): price 19 credits, cargo bay 32 units, cargo bay 0 % ( Free )
Computer Plant Alpha (PTNI Headquarters): price 19 credits, cargo bay 14 units, cargo bay 0 % ( Free )
Mining Outpost M Delta (Asteroid Belt): price 19 credits, cargo bay 1,133 units, cargo bay 11 % ( Free )
Satellite Factory Alpha (PTNI Headquarters): price 19 credits, cargo bay 90 units, cargo bay 1 % ( Free )
Heavy Weapons Complex Alpha (PTNI Headquarters): price 19 credits, cargo bay 1,000 units, cargo bay 6 % ( Free )
Light Weapons Complex Alpha (Omicron Lyrae): price 18 credits, cargo bay 998 units, cargo bay 19 % ( Free )
Chip Plant Alpha (PTNI Headquarters): price 18 credits, cargo bay 960 units, cargo bay 19 % ( Free )
Ore Mine L Gamma (Circle Of Labour): price 18 credits, cargo bay 4,633 units, cargo bay 18 % ( Free )
Cahoona Bakery M Beta (Omicron Lyrae): price 18 credits, cargo bay 2,527 units, cargo bay 25 % ( Free )
Cahoona Bakery L Alpha (Omicron Lyrae): price 18 credits, cargo bay 5,916 units, cargo bay 23 % ( Free )
Wheat Farm M Beta (Nyana's Hideout): price 18 credits, cargo bay 2,830 units, cargo bay 28 % ( Free )
Wheat Farm M Alpha (Nyana's Hideout): price 18 credits, cargo bay 2,668 units, cargo bay 26 % ( Free )
Sun Oil Refinery M Beta (Scale Plate Green): price 18 credits, cargo bay 2,800 units, cargo bay 28 % ( Free )
Flower Farm L Alpha (Scale Plate Green): price 18 credits, cargo bay 5,936 units, cargo bay 23 % ( Free )
Mining Outpost M Alpha (Asteroid Belt): price 18 credits, cargo bay 2,521 units, cargo bay 25 % ( Free )

[Maxces C Covert]

I also tried removing:
The Trade list sectors just in case I miss understood the instructions.
Black list stations: -
Trade list sectors: Asteroid Belt, Circle Of Labour, Gamma 1, Gamma 2, Gamma 3, Heretic's End, Jupiter, Kuiper Belt, Mars, Neptune, Nyana's Hideout, Omicron Lyrae, Oort Cloud, Pluto, PTNI Headquarters, Pyramid Income, Saturn, Scale Plate Green, Titan, Uranus, Uranus 2, Venus

[Saetan]

[...]

Ware list type: Trade list
Ware list: Crystals

Tradeable ware from home base:
P Energy Cells: price 18 credits, cargo bay 46,165 units, cargo bay 92 %
R Crystals: price 1,582 credits, cargo bay 1,240 units, cargo bay 12 %

Energy Cells (Product (CAG search engine))
Impulse Ray Emitter Forge Alpha (Omicron Lyrae): price 19 credits, cargo bay 14 units, cargo bay 0 % ( Free )
Computer Plant Beta (PTNI Headquarters): price 19 credits, cargo bay 15 units, cargo bay 0 % ( Free )
Camera Drone Factory Alpha (PTNI Headquarters): price 19 credits, cargo bay 32 units, cargo bay 0 % ( Free )
Computer Plant Alpha (PTNI Headquarters): price 19 credits, cargo bay 14 units, cargo bay 0 % ( Free )
Mining Outpost M Delta (Asteroid Belt): price 19 credits, cargo bay 1,133 units, cargo bay 11 % ( Free )
Satellite Factory Alpha (PTNI Headquarters): price 19 credits, cargo bay 90 units, cargo bay 1 % ( Free )
Heavy Weapons Complex Alpha (PTNI Headquarters): price 19 credits, cargo bay 1,000 units, cargo bay 6 % ( Free )
Light Weapons Complex Alpha (Omicron Lyrae): price 18 credits, cargo bay 998 units, cargo bay 19 % ( Free )
Chip Plant Alpha (PTNI Headquarters): price 18 credits, cargo bay 960 units, cargo bay 19 % ( Free )
Ore Mine L Gamma (Circle Of Labour): price 18 credits, cargo bay 4,633 units, cargo bay 18 % ( Free )
Cahoona Bakery M Beta (Omicron Lyrae): price 18 credits, cargo bay 2,527 units, cargo bay 25 % ( Free )
Cahoona Bakery L Alpha (Omicron Lyrae): price 18 credits, cargo bay 5,916 units, cargo bay 23 % ( Free )
Wheat Farm M Beta (Nyana's Hideout): price 18 credits, cargo bay 2,830 units, cargo bay 28 % ( Free )
Wheat Farm M Alpha (Nyana's Hideout): price 18 credits, cargo bay 2,668 units, cargo bay 26 % ( Free )
Sun Oil Refinery M Beta (Scale Plate Green): price 18 credits, cargo bay 2,800 units, cargo bay 28 % ( Free )
Flower Farm L Alpha (Scale Plate Green): price 18 credits, cargo bay 5,936 units, cargo bay 23 % ( Free )
Mining Outpost M Alpha (Asteroid Belt): price 18 credits, cargo bay 2,521 units, cargo bay 25 % ( Free )

... this is your full log, or is there something missing on the bottom of it?

If it's complete, CAG doesn't seem to find any stations selling crystals within the range of the station. Not sure if this is affected by checking the prices too ... if there are crystal selling stations in range, check their prices and adapt your own pricing, so they can be bought.

[Maxces C Covert]

yes that's my full list. I'll see what I can do about the crystals not being in the area.

[samthunder]

Am I the only one that gets an error 404 when trying to download this mod? Can anyone help me find a working link?

[CuriosityKillsTheMADCat]

The link(s) are no longer valid as Lucike has (hopefully only temporarily) left the forums. But you can still find them on his webpage. Note that the webpage is available in German only, AFAIK.

http://www.xuniversum.info/

MFG

CKTMC

[X2-Illuminatus]

Am I the only one that gets an error 404 when trying to download this mod? Can anyone help me find a working link?

As this script is part of the bonus package, you can download the bonus package from the main site's download area. (Link).

But you can still find them on his webpage.

To my knowledge Lucike only hosts the newest (unsigned) versions of his scripts / mods and not the bonus package versions.