Should X be Multiplayer? (Poll) I wan't to make egosoft see how many people want this

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Should X be multiplayer?

Yes
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39%
No
146
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blazer1121 wrote:oooook then... That was just gay,,, not funny....
Do not use sexual language as a term of derision - it's not acceptable, especially when you use it to attack another poster.
Besides, It's impossible to make the universe speed up! you can make things move faster or slower. But it's IMPOSSIBLE to make the universe move faster!!! Why does it seem that i'm the only person that see's this? YOU CAN NOT MAKE THE UNIVERSE SPEED UP!! IT IS IMPOSSIBLE SETA CAN ONLY SPEED YOUR SHIP UP!! BECAUSE IT IS HOOKED INTO THE SHIP!!!! SETA USESS AN ANOMILLY IN THE RELATION BETWEEN TIME AND SPACE WHICH ALLOWS YOUR SHIP TO GO FASTER!!! NOT THE UNIVERSE!!!!
Negative, big cahoona!

All sources of gravity effect the perception and passing of time. If you were able to position yourself on the edge of the event horizon of a black hole, the massive gravity you would experience would cause time to accelerate from your perspective. It would essentially place you in stasis, and what seemed like 5minutes to you could seem like 500years to everything else.

SETA "simply" takes the relevant effect of gravity and applies it to your ship cockpit, and so places everything in the cockpit in a form of stasis. As such, what seems like 1minute to you is actually 10minutes to everything outside your ship. This effect is completely theoretically possible.

A practicle example is this: Two identically set digital clocks placed in a very tall tower. One at the top, one at the bottom. Leave them there for a significant time period, then collect both clocks and put them side-by-side. The clock that was at the top of the tower will display a later time than the one that was at the bottom, because of the difference in the passing of time caused by the Earth's gravity.
This effect is even more pronounced if you put one of those clocks on an aircraft and keep the other on the ground.

So, SETA doesn't speed anything up. It actually just slows down everything in the cockpit, and meets theoretical physics.
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blazer1121 wrote:oooook then... That was just gay,,, not funny....

Besides, It's impossible to make the universe speed up! you can make things move faster or slower. But it's IMPOSSIBLE to make the universe move faster!!! Why does it seem that i'm the only person that see's this? YOU CAN NOT MAKE THE UNIVERSE SPEED UP!! IT IS IMPOSSIBLE SETA CAN ONLY SPEED YOUR SHIP UP!! BECAUSE IT IS HOOKED INTO THE SHIP!!!! SETA USESS AN ANOMILLY IN THE RELATION BETWEEN TIME AND SPACE WHICH ALLOWS YOUR SHIP TO GO FASTER!!! NOT THE UNIVERSE!!!!
did you not even read my post ?
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Probably not :p
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Post by Earine »

errm i not sure if this is right but i think everyone isnt getting the idea

the poll isnt 2 make x series entirely multiplayer just add it

that cant b a bad thing i mean you dont have 2 play it if u dont want 2 (multiplayer that is)
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It really is worth reading this thread before you post in it. ;)
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For those who really love multiplayer there's Freelancer with the Crossfire 1.7 mod that they might like. They have a devoted following of some people that play that game and no other games. Although I'm a newbie to the X Universe, I find it the best space sim I've ever played.
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Earine wrote:errm i not sure if this is right but i think everyone isnt getting the idea

the poll isnt 2 make x series entirely multiplayer just add it

that cant b a bad thing i mean you dont have 2 play it if u dont want 2 (multiplayer that is)
yeah as CBJ said, you really should read the whole thread, its not about making 2 games, its about the fact that to add a multiplayer version to the current game will essentially be the same as building 2 games due to the extra work required to change the game engine enough for it to work for multiplayer and to add the multiplayer programming into the game.
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Post by shifty_powers »

As for seta, the ability to alter your perception of time is perfectly possible, even today.

My apologies if anyone is offended, or anything silly like that, by my next comment but take some speed or a similar drug and there is every chance you will experience you perception of time being altered. You will experience a different rate of time to the people around you without there being ANY alteration to the fabric of space-time.....

My point being, SETA does not necessitate ANY physical alteration of the universe, just your individual perception of it.....
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shifty_powers wrote:My point being, SETA does not necessitate ANY physical alteration of the universe, just your individual perception of it.....
If you read my post on the previous page, you'll see SETA probably does cause physical alteration of time just like a gravitational distortion does. The device's name suggests that this is the method, too - "Singularity".
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blazer1121 wrote:Why does it seem that i'm the only person that see's this? YOU CAN NOT MAKE THE UNIVERSE SPEED UP!!
well, just like the previous posts said - your ship doesnt speed up, it's your perception of time that changes.
If you precieve the time at the slower rate than everyone else, then for you everything else speeds up. Then for everyone else it seems like that you are in the slow motion.
CBJ wrote:Yes, making it an option would, of course, magically solve all the problems that have been discussed over the last few pages. ;)
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shifty_powers wrote:My point being, SETA does not necessitate ANY physical alteration of the universe, just your individual perception of it.....
If you read my post on the previous page, you'll see SETA probably does cause physical alteration of time just like a gravitational distortion does. The device's name suggests that this is the method, too - "Singularity".
yep, the name seem to suggest it alters space within your ship. However same effect probably can be reached with drugs too... although you may not be able to switch 'speeds' as fast as you can do with SETA now.
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unelss they develop some kind of drug that slows down your perception of time thats fast acting and wares off quickly.

when you activate takes effect, the cockpit is filled with this gas drugs and the charging of SETA is it taking effect. But it keeps pumping in gas until you urn it off, as it wares of quickly, you will soon return to normal.

who knows, maybe space weed is a more potent version of the drug and was made illgeal coz of protential dangerous effects of it :P
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Remember the proper meaning of seta - it mentions singularity, hence means a time distortion, the only way i think seta could be implemented at all is that having seta either gets you to the eventual destination if you have to leave halfway through the trip while online, and have whats currently used by seta as an afterburner type thing, matbe gates could be upgraded with a seta transporter type thing that uses installed jumpdrive to place you near the gate you want to leave by if you are flying across sectors
About the name - i was lost for a name on the forum and looking round, then a Bob Hope film came on, and i thought "that will do nicely"

i was born and raised argumentative i dont mean to offend ...... sorry
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Cycrow wrote:unelss they develop some kind of drug that slows down your perception of time thats fast acting and wares off quickly.

when you activate takes effect, the cockpit is filled with this gas drugs and the charging of SETA is it taking effect. But it keeps pumping in gas until you urn it off, as it wares of quickly, you will soon return to normal.

who knows, maybe space weed is a more potent version of the drug and was made illgeal coz of protential dangerous effects of it :P
hehe
yeah, and if it doesnt wears of quickly, then it'd make it harder to use :D
can you imagine testing of that drug...
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Post by elwayno »

i reckon only way id do it if u joined a race and the only way to attack a player is in a battle arena or a random race wars
also the players can unite in an occasional enemy onslaught ie 20 khaak ie full fleet khaak and u cant permanantly lose ur in battle arena it just ends
but trading and chatting would make it work
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I would like to see, in the fullness of time, an online game set in space in the X universe.

I certainly think any game built on, or with the same basic mechanics as, the existing X games would pretty much be doomed to failure.
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frymaster wrote: I certainly think any game built on, or with the same basic mechanics as, the existing X games would pretty much be doomed to failure.
Do you mean an online game built on same mechanics?
An online game certainly will never work with X3's gameplay mechanics... or do you mean that X in general will fail as an online game?
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SETA would work in multi player aslong as its set up just like in DEFCON.

the game would run at which ever the Slowest setting a person playing has set. it seems to work just fine in defcon with upto 6 players.



another multi player idea would be to keep the game itself single player, but then everyone can dock at a Multiplayer Space station where you could get out of your ship and enjoy gambling and drinking with other pilots from around the Universe (world). once you leave the station your back in your own little universe but on the station you can converse with people maybe even start a brawl and get thrown in jail of some sort and have to pay a fine or hack the station to get out. among other things you could do on the station.

a cool character creation system would be nice for your multiplayer avatar.

just an idea i had this morning heh.
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mcsquared wrote:For those who really love multiplayer there's Freelancer with the Crossfire 1.7 mod that they might like. They have a devoted following of some people that play that game and no other games. Although I'm a newbie to the X Universe, I find it the best space sim I've ever played.
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I warned you once about using sexual language as a term of derision, and now you've gone and done it again, as well as calling a user a "n00b" as an insult.

This topic's been well and truly covered and you don't appear to be able to act in a civil manner, so this thread's going south.
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