Trump Presidency

[Mailo]

The thing with fascism is that it can spring from either the left or the right. We have to keep an eye on all sides for its emergence.

No, it can't.
To quote from the wikipedia page on facism:

Fascism (/ˈfæʃɪzəm/ FASH-iz-əm) is a far-right, authoritarian, and ultranationalist political ideology and movement [...] fascism is at the far right of the traditional left–right spectrum.

Please don't try to redefine existing terms to suit your political narrative without even giving your new personal definition. Otherwise we'll just call whatever Trump is doing "communism" and warn that communism can spring from either the left or the right.

And since you ignored it the last time, the US still does not have any political party with more than 0.1% of votes that actually is left, much less far or extreme left ... the Democrats are centrist, leaning to the right.

Also, you said earlier that things would be even worse if Harris had gotten elected. Could you elaborate in which way?
Currently the stock market has lost ~10% of its value in the past three months, US citizens are being deported, prices are rising, international shipping is way down leading Walmart and Target to warn of empty shelves to come, and internationally the US has turned into a laughing stock that is not worth doing negotiations with, as they apparently no longer feel the need to adhere to signed treaties. What exactly would be worse under Harris? That women and minorities still would have a fair chance in the job market?

[matthewfarmery]

@Mailo
I keep trying to ask that myself, but no real reply, things would not be this bad under Harris, people will not be deported against their will, or losing their jobs, or having their personal details looked at by someone without clearance.

Harris would have kept things stable. Unlike Trump and co and the clown show that is happening.

[matthewfarmery]

So now Americans are starting to say that Trump is a dangerous dictator,

Majority of Americans Say Trump Is a ‘Dangerous Dictator’

A new PRRI poll finds 52% of Americans say President Trump is a “dangerous dictator” who poses a threat to democracy and believe he’s overstepped his authority by actions such as the mass firing of federal employees.

Said pollster Melissa Deckman: “It’s only been 100 days into the Trump administration, yet we’ve really seen a pushback among most Americans to the Trump agenda.”

I wonder how many voted for him? but if they did, they were warned.

[mr.WHO]

Harris would have kept things stable. Unlike Trump and co and the clown show that is happening.

Indeed, after 100 days of non-stop performative 24/7 clown show that we have now, Harris would be more sane and calm option.

Unfortunately, if She would won, we would never knew what was the alternative and She would probably be bashed vigorously as well.

Sometimes experience must come from mistakes - hopefully the world will somehow survive till 2026 (and later on to 2028).
Hopefully by then, US can go back to normal, as France and Germany will try to bash their heads against the same wall.

[Vertigo 7]

Harris would have kept things stable. Unlike Trump and co and the clown show that is happening.

Unfortunately, if She would won, we would never knew what was the alternative and She would probably be bashed vigorously as well.

Gonna have to say this is wrong. He said he was gonna do this crap. We said he was gonna do this crap. And clutch my pearls, he's doing the crap. We would have known, we did know.

[matthewfarmery]

Indeed, Trump did say a lot of things, but the media tried to make sense of it all, rather then fight back, at least a lot of channels seemed to think Trump was sane. Biggest been fox) But plenty ignored the warnings. I think she lost because many didn't want her in power, if she had been a he, then she might have won.

[mr.WHO]

True, at some point he was open with each bullet point he implemented in last 100 days - but before that, 99% of people assumed, this was regular mix of politician talking sh*t, wishful thinking, methaphor and simple lies.

No one really thought 200 executive orders in first 2 weeks would be a reality...even less that it's just a start of crazy marathon.

This sounds ironic now, but seems like only thing as irritating and dangerous as politician not delivering his promise, might be a politician who actually delivier his promise.


This kinda reminds me UK, Brexit and Tories, but even more incompetent and heavy handed.
I really hope US will be smarter and make Trump lame duck in 2026 midterms - with so many chaotic and potentially destructive changes it's rather easy for Trump to flip a lot of voters against him.
It was like that in 2020, will be even more in 2026 with Trump-made crisis after crysis.

[matthewfarmery]

Trump's approval rating seems to be sinking, but it can't sink fast enough.

[burger1]

Trump signs executive order to send the military for use against civilians.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/worl ... 41549.html

The executive order - “Strengthening and Unleashing America’s Law Enforcement to Pursue Criminals and Protect Innocent Civilians” - was signed by Trump at the White House on Monday ahead of his 100th day in office Tuesday. It instructs Bondi and Hegseth to “determine how military and national security assets, training, non-lethal capabilities, and personnel” can be used to support domestic law enforcement.

Amazon might have considered listing tariff costs on receipts. Would have made quite a few citizens angry and the government hated the idea for obvious reasons. Governments more likely to fall for financial failings than civil rights. People are usually fine with others being targeted, etc... but guard their money closely.

https://apnews.com/article/amazon-tarif ... 7ef330c0fd

[matthewfarmery]

if the military is used against civilians, then its game over and America will be too far gone. Dictatorship, banana republic. And a probably cause for civil unrest. America is losing it fast. How can anyone defend this crap is beyond me, and how anyone thinks that Harris was a bad option compared this?

[fiksal]

Trump's approval rating seems to be sinking, but it can't sink fast enough.

I am for one surprised it is dropping.

My question to his supporters would be - you all wanted it didn't you? What here surprised you? Not no-laws prisons for kids and immigrants obviously. Must be the eggs.

[chew-ie]

Trump's approval rating seems to be sinking, but it can't sink fast enough.

I am for one surprised it is dropping.

My question to his supporters would be - you all wanted it didn't you? What here surprised you? Not no-laws prisons for kids and immigrants obviously. Must be the eggs.

My guess is that making the US one of the bad guys by snuggling with Russia, abandoning Ukraine and breaking bridges with all former allies from Europe isn't what "the supporters" wanted. I bet they wanted a big america everyone looks at jealousy. Instead they got something even more broken than before.

[fiksal]

interesting guess about respect

did you know that Russians think that Putin made Russia recognized and respected?

they think... they call that "respect"

I think Trump thinks something similar

[jlehtone]

Trump or the followers?

I bet they wanted a big america everyone looks at jealousy. Instead they got something even more broken than before.

Do the true believers know what (we believe that) they got, or do they believe that they are big and admired?
(As only fools elsewhere would not admire and respect the awesomeness.)

[chew-ie]

interesting guess about respect

did you know that Russians think that Putin made Russia recognized and respected?

they think... they call that "respect"

I think Trump thinks something similar

Russia is shunned for decades to come - the people knowing that left the country at the beginning of the conflict.
But yeah, delusions are a major brain function even more so if it is constantly bombarded with propaganda.

[Incubi]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... ngNewsSerp

Not sure what to say, but the fast path to ending his tariff madness failed. 49-49. 2 missing senators and 49 scared brown nosers got in the way. Not the end of the story, just an unfortunate setback.

[mr.WHO]

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics ... ngNewsSerp

Not sure what to say, but the fast path to ending his tariff madness failed. 49-49. 2 missing senators and 49 scared brown nosers got in the way. Not the end of the story, just an unfortunate setback.

It's not that bad actually, 49-49 is knife edge that only needs a little nudge.

All you need is another 100 days like that and another quarter like that:
https://edition.cnn.com/2025/04/30/econ ... index.html

Business will start to withdraw support, people will start loosing money and jobs and he won't be able to blame Biden for it.
It will turn to 51-49 eventually. By the pace he keeps screwing everything, maybe we won't even need to wait to 2026 midterms for him to become lame duck.

I'm projecting on the asumption that you cannot build and start a factory in just few months - probably the only way for Trump to offset the recession would be max output "drill baby drill".
Albeit dealing will US gas and oil, awfully fast start to looks like dealing with Russian gas and oil - too many bad strings attached.

[matthewfarmery]

Trump is blaming Biden already for his screw ups, as he trying to move the goal posts and saying along the lines, its Biden problem not mine, just give it a bit more time.

Trump Wants a Mulligan for Bad Economic Report

“President Donald Trump blamed former President Joe Biden for weak economic data that sent stocks tumbling, arguing government data showed increased domestic investment signaled his tariff regime is working,” Bloomberg reports.

Said Trump, at a Cabinet meeting: “I have to start off by saying, that’s Biden. That’s not Trump.”

He added: “Let’s give us a pass on the first month, we were sort of getting a little bit used to things.”

Except he totally screwing things up. And no, he not getting the hang of things. What a fool.

And also, looks like Musk will be out of a job soon,

Tesla Opened Search for CEO to Succeed Elon Musk

“About a month ago, with Tesla’s stock sinking and some investors irritated about Elon Musk’s White House focus, Tesla’s board got serious about looking for Musk’s successor,” the Wall Street Journal reports.

“Board members reached out to several executive search firms to work on a formal process for finding Tesla’s next chief executive.”

But then again, I would say, too little, too late, Tesla might as well go bust. as for Musk, he will be jobless, as no one will touch him.

[Observe]

And also, looks like Musk will be out of a job soon,

Tesla Opened Search for CEO to Succeed Elon Musk

“About a month ago, with Tesla’s stock sinking and some investors irritated about Elon Musk’s White House focus, Tesla’s board got serious about looking for Musk’s successor,” the Wall Street Journal reports.

“Board members reached out to several executive search firms to work on a formal process for finding Tesla’s next chief executive.”

But then again, I would say, too little, too late, Tesla might as well go bust. as for Musk, he will be jobless, as no one will touch him.

Tesla denies contacting headhunters to replace Musk.

However, in statement on Thursday, Tesla said the report was "absolutely false" while Mr Musk wrote on his social media platform X that the paper was "a discredit to journalism". Tesla chair Robyn Denholm: "The CEO of Tesla is Elon Musk and the board is highly confident in his ability to continue executing on the exciting growth plan ahead"

Typical liberal disinformation in their zeal to see destruction as progress? Perhaps, perhaps not. Time will tell. I wouldn't worry too much about Musk becoming "jobless". He tends to create his own jobs just fine.

[felter]

So you are saying we have to believe what Musk says before what a news article says, you are talking about the same Musk that had to lie about his achievements in gaming just to make him look good, right.

Heard a good one, some American dude was making something I'm not 100% sure what it is/was just that it was some kind of electronic item he wanted to make it in America so when he priced it out just to get the PCB printed in America it would have cost him over 20K USD whereas elsewhere the cost for the whole thing that's materials and the manufacturing was going to cost 13K USD so he priced it up and sold the items before getting them (idiot) and used the money from the sales to pay for those items. By the time he got them made and shipped, Trump turned up and placed his tariffs on them, which put the price up to just under 20K USD the problem is he doesn't have that extra USD to pay the tariff so he can't import them into the country and remember he has already sold them to raise the capital to pay for them. He has tried to raise extra cash by trying to sell more of them at the raised price to include the new tariff, but the new price is too much, and he has sold no new items. Rightly so they are blaming themselves, but they are angry at the point that he was taking up that river and the paddle was taken from him and there is no help advice or aid to help him with the issue which is a massive oversight in Trumps plan. One other point he made, the Quality even though the American good would cost more they had an inferior quality to them, which once again there is no help on this issue coming out of the Whitehouse.

Another good one, some dude uses eight bit chips in manufacturing, main issue no one in America makes 8 bit chips and as it is old technology no one is about to start making them as it would cost more to do so than they could ever make, but there are still fabs outside of America that still makes them, but Trump's tariffs mean buying them outside of America is not a viable option once again they are not happy that there is no advice help or aid to help with the problem.

Or there's this guy in California invested the last of his cash in starting a small business that he was running from his house selling toys that are made in China no one in America is about to start making these toys there just isn't a market so he is now stuck, and his business is on the verge of collapse, and he expects that to happen in the next few weeks even though he was doing alright for himself before tariffs.

It's not just the small guys I watched an interview with Mr Ford, and he was boasting that well Ford is okay we make 80% of our products in America whereas the rest of the car manufacturers are pretty much screwed as they import more that they make. The thing he didn't mention was just how much of that 80% are reliant on imports of things you know like steel, aluminium, plastics or even electronics not to mention some of the things they are reliant on come from small independent companies that are probably going to go bust.

Here's a question, if Trump thinks his tariffs are so good, why was he so upset about Amazon going to show just how much the tariff was going to be on the price of an item?