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Re: No info?

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Nikola515 wrote: Sun, 11. Nov 18, 17:40 Egosoft don't have manpower to fix games as fast as games like Fallout/Skyrim so their fixing and patching might take years.
At least they DO fix unlike Bethesda. Unofficial community patches have been a mainstay for Beth products for years. :)

There are really two aspects to your arguement: whether one personally can accept Egosoft's MO and whether the community at large will accept Egosoft's MO.

I was referencing the former. While not ideal, I am happier with a company that provides the level of commitment that Egosoft does, than one that does a cash grab and leaves users hanging. I personally think we need more dev houses like this so, on a personal level, am happy to support these guys (Egosoft). And while NMS wasn't my cup of tea I'm also impressed by Hello Games.

Regarding the latter, all I'll say is I wish Egosoft a successful launch. X games have been on my HD for nearly 20 years -- I'll be very happy to see Bernd and his crew enjoy another 20 :)
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paris_england wrote: Sun, 11. Nov 18, 18:28
At least they DO fix unlike Bethesda. Unofficial community patches have been a mainstay for Beth products for years
Unofficial Skyrim Special Edition Patch fixes a bug where you can't absorb the first Dragon's soul. LoL. They repackage the same game with slightly better graphics after 6 years and they can't even fix this. I was laughing my *** off.
paris_england wrote: Sun, 11. Nov 18, 18:28 I was referencing the former. While not ideal, I am happier with a company that provides the level of commitment that Egosoft does, than one that does a cash grab and leaves users hanging. I personally think we need more dev houses like this so, on a personal level, am happy to support these guys (Egosoft). And while NMS wasn't my cup of tea I'm also impressed by Hello Games.
It's good to point out that while Hello Games did show great support their game was shallow to begin with. No matter how long you polish it it will still stay a mile wide inch deep. Egosoft launch issues actually stem from the complexity of their games. You polish an X game more and more features become available.
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Let's not talk about Bethesda, together with Blizzard they are getting their ass kicked for the "things" they released recently. Both Diablo Immortal and Fallout 76 are nothing but laughting stock. They think that people are stupid and will trust them after something like that? I don't think so ... Both companies stocks are getting lower with each passing second and it's still not over for that "free fall".
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Actually I dont have any problems with any of Bethesda games and they are working fine for me but I do have problem with their greed (microtransactions)... Comparing Egosoft with Bethesda is like comparing apples and oranges when it comes to game complexity. They have rough start but they have enough manpower to fix game much faster than Egosoft( 500+ vs 30). These corporations have good reputation but do to their greedy practices they are paying price (EA,Blizzard,Konami...etc.). If they keep this up they wont last long in market. As I said before market is not as forgiving as people think. Today market is extremely critical and bad news can spread like wildfires on social media if they are not careful.

But the main question on this topic is what will happen with X4 if our fears come true ? Will Egosoft get sucked whirlwind like other companies? We can all pretend that this won't happen but what if it does?


Edit: Fallout 76 just like Metal Gear Survive is just a money grab and im not going to fall for junk like that.... Game trailers are nothing more than gaming propaganda designed to trick buying game (some bad some good).
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@ Nikola515 .... Where did the "OUR" fears come from ... Don't you mean "YOUR" fears.
We are all doomed, doomed I tell you ...doomed... Egosoft sucked into the vortex of doom,,, doomed I tell you doomed.
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"what will happen with X4 if our fears come true ?"

If my X4 fears come true then I might have to replace some of my system's hardware elements. :cry: After that is resolved I would expect to play the game quite enjoyably and maybe help Egosoft with their sorting out of any teething troubles in the process. :)

Remember that I have no business ties or commercial obligations to Egosoft apart from perhaps an NDA from the XR testing days.
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birdtable wrote: Sun, 11. Nov 18, 20:43 @ Nikola515 .... Where did the "OUR" fears come from ... Don't you mean "YOUR" fears.
We are all doomed, doomed I tell you ...doomed... Egosoft sucked into the vortex of doom,,, doomed I tell you doomed.
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birdtable wrote: Sun, 11. Nov 18, 20:43 @ Nikola515 .... Where did the "OUR" fears come from ... Don't you mean "YOUR" fears.
We are all doomed, doomed I tell you ...doomed... Egosoft sucked into the vortex of doom,,, doomed I tell you doomed.


Those who don't learn from history are destined to repeat it :roll:
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@ ZombiePotatoSalad ..... :D :D :D
I was wondering what to call my Kestrel ..I now know...."THE DUCK OF DOOM

still ... :D :D :D :D ...cheers :rofl:
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What will happen if our X4 fears come true?

Well, I imagine that as loyal Egosoft customers (many for a decade or more), we will help fix the game.
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Alan Phipps wrote: Sun, 11. Nov 18, 20:44 "what will happen with X4 if our fears come true ?"

If my X4 fears come true then I might have to replace some of my system's hardware elements. :cry: After that is resolved I would expect to play the game quite enjoyably and maybe help Egosoft with their sorting out of any teething troubles in the process. :)

Remember that I have no business ties or commercial obligations to Egosoft apart from perhaps an NDA from the XR testing days.
You so funny :P Im sure you will be busy dealing with polite people too :eg:
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birdtable wrote: Sun, 11. Nov 18, 20:51 @ ZombiePotatoSalad ..... :D :D :D
I was wondering what to call my Kestrel ..I now know...."THE DUCK OF DOOM

still ... :D :D :D :D ...cheers :rofl:
And here's the sound it will make when it flies:


https://youtu.be/aykU_WcxkR4?t=7s
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:D @ Nikola515: I could respond by starting "As a surviving moderator from the XR release, nothing worse can possibly …." But I won't because its Off Topic and everybody with a long history here already knows anyway.

Back on thread topic please. :D
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ZombiePotatoSalad wrote: Sun, 11. Nov 18, 20:53 What will happen if our X4 fears come true?

Well, I imagine that as loyal Egosoft customers (many for a decade or more), we will help fix the game.

Lets hope it will be enough to sustain development.....
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Alan Phipps wrote: Sun, 11. Nov 18, 21:02 :D @ Nikola515: I could respond by starting "As a surviving moderator from the XR release, nothing worse can possibly …." But I won't because its Off Topic and everybody with a long history here already knows anyway.

Back on thread topic please. :D
Well at least you have plenty experience.... They should promote you to elite mod now :P Im actually looking forward and im hoping everything will be normal.... Anyway I agree we should go back to topic.....
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Back on topic... what more can we say? Any time something like this is mentioned, it's replied with "please wait" and "soonTM" ad nauseum. Yes, I fully understand waiting (I'm doing it right now), but a bit more information is good.

It just seems to go back and forth, with the devs remaining quiet, save for the occasionally forum post.
Am I the only one hearing the song "Trust in Me" from the Jungle Book in my head right now?
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Back on topic? :thumb_up:
I wonder if the NDA drops before the release. :gruebel:
Well... I don't think so but if... maybe... possibly... we could get some new infos. :sceptic:
Besides we have 2018 man. Everything gets leaked. :twisted:
Just a tiny bit? :oops:
That exessive usage of emojis should tell you that I'm not serious at all
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LittleBird wrote: Sun, 11. Nov 18, 21:53 Back on topic? :thumb_up:
I wonder if the NDA drops before the release. :gruebel:
Well... I don't think so but if... maybe... possibly... we could get some new infos. :sceptic:
Besides we have 2018 man. Everything gets leaked. :twisted:
Just a tiny bit? :oops:
That exessive usage of emojis should tell you that I'm not serious at all
I still think this will be one of the better games of 2018, regardless. If it has bugs at launch, it will only get better.
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LittleBird wrote: Sun, 11. Nov 18, 21:53 Besides we have 2018 man. Everything gets leaked. :twisted:
Even without the emojis it's unlikely. Games that get leaked are always big names like AC, Battlefield and the like. Half Life 2 had the worst run in this regard. X games get little attention compared to these titles.
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csaba wrote: Tue, 30. Oct 18, 17:12
priestyy wrote: Tue, 30. Oct 18, 17:06
csaba wrote: Tue, 30. Oct 18, 16:59 https://youtu.be/XeYbb0hf10U

https://youtu.be/Hk4pPuC3GjA

https://youtu.be/Boxj2l5MkqY

I don't know why you need more. Most games don't have even this amount of info out before release.
All 3 of those videos are from 2017, kind of my point....
The game was mostly done at that point. You can see in the January video how that build had much better detailed ships in it. At that point they were probably just testing and polishing things.
Kane Hart wrote: Tue, 30. Oct 18, 17:10
They keep putting screenshots out every dayish.
^This as well.
A screenshot of a ship...wow. You completely missed the point of the thread.

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