Rebirth release date. - Part 2

ezra-r · Post by **ezra-r** » Wed, 29. May 13, 00:58

relaxxx,

a f*ck*** awesome video has been released with a space and images (and music) so beautiful I've never seen before.

Check the egosoft youtube channel:
http://www.youtube.com/user/Xuniversech ... ture=watch

and the last one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6seoryOhxk

Simply amazing!!

Fallent · Post by **Fallent** » Wed, 29. May 13, 02:21

CBJ, Arsaneus, Bernd....

Can we know yet if we're looking at Q3 or Q4 release date?

Is the game still on track for 2013?

Freeman_79 · Post by **Freeman_79** » Wed, 29. May 13, 04:48

ezra-r wrote: and the last one:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C6seoryOhxk

Simply amazing!!

Christ, look at the planet surface... I'm stunned... Hell of a work Egosoft.

Daisai · Post by **Daisai** » Wed, 29. May 13, 16:56

Fallent wrote:CBJ, Arsaneus, Bernd....

Can we know yet if we're looking at Q3 or Q4 release date?

Is the game still on track for 2013?

Going by the release of most games and to maximize sells you should look into a summer release.
However if that will not happen you can expect a release at the end of this year, so pretty much a year to late.

Flybye · Post by **Flybye** » Wed, 29. May 13, 17:39

Voyadjyer wrote:I'm already used to the thought that the game will never be released. and this game will definitely not be on my list of pre-orders

Egosoft has made 6 X games since 1999. No reason to think this will be vapoware.

The video looks stunning!

But my god what a tease to be able to see that much detail in the ground and not be able to land on the planet. But that is okay. Everything is looking amazing, and I can't wait to be able to fly around those station cities.

Melfior · Post by **Melfior** » Wed, 29. May 13, 17:53

I think, for Egosoft it is better to make release in Summer. The reason is that starting with October we'll get tons of perfect games like BF4 and AC4.

Promethium · Post by **Promethium** » Thu, 30. May 13, 04:50

Melfior wrote:I think, for Egosoft it is better to make release in Summer. The reason is that starting with October we'll get tons of perfect games like BF4 and AC4.

Do you legitimately believe that games like BF4 and AC4 are competition for X Rebirth? They aren't even in the same category. They are LIGHTYEARS apart.

That's like saying "McDonalds is going to have some competition, a new grocery store is opening."

BarrenEarth · Post by **BarrenEarth** » Thu, 30. May 13, 05:07

Promethium wrote:
Melfior wrote:I think, for Egosoft it is better to make release in Summer. The reason is that starting with October we'll get tons of perfect games like BF4 and AC4.
Do you legitimately believe that games like BF4 and AC4 are competition for X Rebirth? They aren't even in the same category. They are LIGHTYEARS apart.

That's like saying "McDonalds is going to have some competition, a new grocery store is opening."

There are X number of Gamers. There are Y number of gamers who would be interested in buying Rebirth. Of the X there are a percentage who are also Y. Of the Y there is a percentage that is in X. For every X that is buying another game there is a small percentage of Y players who leave Y group due to lack of funds.

So yes, every time someone buys BF4, or Star Citizen, or a new car, or a decent meal for their spouse there is a small percentage of potential sales stolen from Egosoft.

Don't be so arrogant as to think that X players only ever play X games, and no one who dare play BF4 would ever buy this sophisticated piece of software.

Sibilantae · Post by **Sibilantae** » Thu, 30. May 13, 06:59

BarrenEarth wrote:
There are X number of Gamers. There are Y number of gamers who would be interested in buying Rebirth. Of the X there are a percentage who are also Y. Of the Y there is a percentage that is in X. For every X that is buying another game there is a small percentage of Y players who leave Y group due to lack of funds.

So yes, every time someone buys BF4, or Star Citizen, or a new car, or a decent meal for their spouse there is a small percentage of potential sales stolen from Egosoft.

Don't be so arrogant as to think that X players only ever play X games, and no one who dare play BF4 would ever buy this sophisticated piece of software.

If not for Origin I would probably have bought BF3, and I'd still play X3. I suppose the same would be true for BF4.

Pretty daring, huh?

EDIT - I didn't realize at first you were being sarcastic, so now I guess I'm the anecdotal evidence backup rather than the witty counterexample.
sighhhhhhhh

AkrionXxarr · Post by **AkrionXxarr** » Thu, 30. May 13, 09:09

BarrenEarth wrote:So yes, every time someone buys BF4, or Star Citizen, or a new car, or a decent meal for their spouse there is a small percentage of potential sales stolen from Egosoft.

Stolen? A tad dramatic, don't ya think?

Fallent · Post by **Fallent** » Thu, 30. May 13, 10:21

On the making of video.... @ 52 seconds in "Note this is just a small module used in much larger stations. More on this soon..."

It's worse than I previously thought! Anywhere Egosoft uses "more soon" it actually means "BHAHA ENJOY WAITING 6 MONTHS!".

And I also love the music

Night Nord · Post by **Night Nord** » Thu, 30. May 13, 12:23

BarrenEarth wrote: So yes, every time someone buys BF4, or Star Citizen, or a new car, or a decent meal for their spouse there is a small percentage of potential sales stolen from Egosoft.

Small percentage of potential instantaneous sales. You know, most of people do receive new funds each month. And if they are not, they probably won't spend their last money on any game anyway.

BigBANGtheory · Post by **BigBANGtheory** » Thu, 30. May 13, 12:38

The greater risk is surely the publisher calling time on development where Egosoft is forced to make harsh compromises.

Whilst the game sales probably don't conflict that much with the AAA titles the media releases do I think at certain times of the year. If for example you have info from Gamescon coming out from the likes of PS4/BF4/GTA5/AS4 etc etc the PR from X Rebirth kind of gets burried real fast i.e. its not probably the best way to reach your market in this case. However I'm sure DeepSilver having paid for the space will want to fill it.

IMHO the best way to launch the PR is to drag the likes of SC, Eve and Elite into the discussion and show off what X Rebirth can bring to the table. Simply because every player/backer of those games in a potential customer of X Rebirth.

Earth Ultimatum IV. · Post by **Earth Ultimatum IV.** » Thu, 30. May 13, 13:49

X:Rebirth will definitely come out this year!
The magic 8-ball comfirmed this!

Proof:

[ external image ]

hobsyllwin · Post by **hobsyllwin** » Thu, 30. May 13, 14:14

Earth ultimatum IV. wrote:X:Rebirth will definitely come out this year!
The magic 8-ball comfirmed this!

Proof:

[ external image ]

2013 ? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ztVMib1T4T4

BarrenEarth · Post by **BarrenEarth** » Fri, 31. May 13, 20:15

Night Nord wrote:
BarrenEarth wrote: So yes, every time someone buys BF4, or Star Citizen, or a new car, or a decent meal for their spouse there is a small percentage of potential sales stolen from Egosoft.
Small percentage of potential instantaneous sales. You know, most of people do receive new funds each month. And if they are not, they probably won't spend their last money on any game anyway.

Yes because getting a new paycheck each week makes me instantaneously more rich.

Or people that stick to a budget will spend $100 or $200 on games per year. No game developer in their right mind hopes for sales years after the release, they hope for sales to recoup the development cost immediately, the rest is padding for future release.

Post by **Santi** » Fri, 31. May 13, 21:49

No game developer in their right mind hopes for sales years after the release, they hope for sales to recoup the development cost immediately, the rest is padding for future release.

I don't think that statement is true, most developers will like to be able to self finance themselves and have total freedom in how they develop their games. That is why games get repackaged and sold as Special Edition, Gold Edition, Complete Game Edition etc... To extend the longevity of the game and achieve sales years after it has been released, standard practice from publishers as well.

Egosoft have a different and quite unique business model, by providing continuous support and expanding, features releases with almost no added cost, and developing a modding community, they achieve sales, years after the game has been released. The others representatives of this model is the makers of ARMA and Mount & Blade, while "small" those games have a expanding base of loyal players, that keeps growing with time.

BigBANGtheory · Post by **BigBANGtheory** » Sat, 1. Jun 13, 10:08

One might even argue the likes of Team Fortress Classic and Counter Strike Mods for Half Life... However even the likes of Xtended Mod or AP vX.X doesn't really compare with the likes of DayZ, CTF and CS yet because of the publically available modding tools/SDK and of course the popularity of the base product.

It would be nice to see that change in the future, and I think in general the player base will expand significantly with X Rebirth.

Night Nord · Post by **Night Nord** » Sat, 1. Jun 13, 10:37

BarrenEarth wrote: Or people that stick to a budget will spend $100 or $200 on games per year. No game developer in their right mind hopes for sales years after the release, they hope for sales to recoup the development cost immediately, the rest is padding for future release.

People that have budget of $100 or $200 on games per year just won't buy "any cool game that comes out first". They'll buy the game the want more (probably just one) or buy a bunch of games during the sales period.

And, BTW, only AAA games are raising most of funds during first weeks. Small games raising most of funds during sales.

Promethium · Post by **Promethium** » Sat, 1. Jun 13, 19:35

BarrenEarth wrote:
Night Nord wrote:
BarrenEarth wrote: So yes, every time someone buys BF4, or Star Citizen, or a new car, or a decent meal for their spouse there is a small percentage of potential sales stolen from Egosoft.
Small percentage of potential instantaneous sales. You know, most of people do receive new funds each month. And if they are not, they probably won't spend their last money on any game anyway.
Yes because getting a new paycheck each week makes me instantaneously more rich.

Or people that stick to a budget will spend $100 or $200 on games per year. No game developer in their right mind hopes for sales years after the release, they hope for sales to recoup the development cost immediately, the rest is padding for future release.

I don't know a single individual who allocates a certain amount of money for video games.

I'm pretty sure the target audience for X: Rebirth isn't a bunch of 13 year old boys who are going to go out and spend all their allowance on BF4 and go, "Oh no, I can't get this complex space simulator now."

If people want the game, eventually they'll buy the game. The percentage of consumers who won't buy X Rebirth because BF4 or Calladooty47 was released first is so infinitesimally small you might as well not mention them at all - they are ants in comparison.

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Rebirth release date. - Part 2