Rebirth release date. - Part 2

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Clock_Work wrote:HEY! At least we know its gonna be released sometime in this millennium. I was worried we'd have to wait until the year 3000. :lol:
There is no guarantee of that.. Doesn't say the date STARTS with a 2. :p Could as well be the year 3024. Or, even slightly worse, it DOES start with a 2! Year 24786! :D
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Ratzsa wrote:
Clock_Work wrote:HEY! At least we know its gonna be released sometime in this millennium. I was worried we'd have to wait until the year 3000. :lol:
There is no guarantee of that.. Doesn't say the date STARTS with a 2. :p Could as well be the year 3024. Or, even slightly worse, it DOES start with a 2! Year 24786! :D

True story. You know, I like the game to be a finished product when it gets released. That good ol' german engineering way. But that's a little ridiculous. If it takes them that long to make it, I expect they will create an entire universe and give me a ship to start my life in. Not a game.
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I am still sceptical we will see the game this year - and given that, when it finally does release, I am sceptical it will be competitive and a critical success. Honestly I have lost all faith in this product, too many delays, too little information, I check back from time to time now because honestly its impossible not to watch a train wreck in progress.
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Hornet108 wrote:I am still sceptical we will see the game this year - and given that, when it finally does release, I am sceptical it will be competitive and a critical success. Honestly I have lost all faith in this product, too many delays, too little information, I check back from time to time now because honestly its impossible not to watch a train wreck in progress.
THIS is exactly the frame of mind you should all be in. This way when the game gets released only good things can happen.

1. You were right!

2. You were wrong and the game is awesome!

Its a win win situation!
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We live in a world were everyone expects things they have no entitlement to, they just expect it to be provided for them, we also live in a world were every other internet user can sit behind a screen anonymously spouting bout's of wisdom as if they are the foremost expert on the gaming industry, it grinds my gears when people start saying things like "this is vapourware" and other such catchy and cynical phrases purely because in most cases they think they sound clever and well informed.

Not every game production is a call of duty clone that has a massive studio team pumping out the same sludge of gameplay with a slightly different setting and characters every six months. Yes it is well known that this game has been delayed for what ever reason, no one apart from Egosoft know exactly why but at least Egosoft have done something about the delay situation, X3AP, as the release of X3AP - 3.0 yesterday clearly shows Egosoft is actively supporting both its own interests and the community of fans. not many developers in this day and age add content to their games without a price tag attached.

I am normally pecemistic about a lot of things but In the case of X-Rebirth I am confident that the game will arrive when it is ready, so what if that is 2 months time or 2 years time, ive got plenty to fill my life with in the mean time. And who cares if its is positioned to release at a time which is the most "competitive". If the game is good, then the game is good, I don't care if there are tow other space sims out at the same time I will play them when I have exhausted my first play through of X-Rebirth.

Egosoft are clearly actively working on the product as evidenced in the new videos and Egosoft as a studio is clearly active as it is signing off new content for its existing products. People just need to be patient. The game is coming, just everyone stop with the fancy phrases and putting the world to rights because you have to wait a bit longer to play a videogame. When there is concrete evidence of the game being cancelled etc then start complaining.


On that note im off to play some Skyrim DLC ;) lol
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elexis wrote:EXCLUSIVE LEAK! Part of the release date revealed:

2
Let me guess, let me guess! This... is... hour! Right? Right?
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elexis wrote:EXCLUSIVE LEAK! Part of the release date revealed:

2
2....Morrow! Woohoo!! Its always a day away.

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dougeye wrote:We live in a world were everyone expects things they have no entitlement to, they just expect it to be provided for them, we also live in a world were every other internet user can sit behind a screen anonymously spouting bout's of wisdom as if they are the foremost expert on the gaming industry, it grinds my gears when people start saying things like "this is vapourware" and other such catchy and cynical phrases purely because in most cases they think they sound clever and well informed.

Not every game production is a call of duty clone that has a massive studio team pumping out the same sludge of gameplay with a slightly different setting and characters every six months. Yes it is well known that this game has been delayed for what ever reason, no one apart from Egosoft know exactly why but at least Egosoft have done something about the delay situation, X3AP, as the release of X3AP - 3.0 yesterday clearly shows Egosoft is actively supporting both its own interests and the community of fans. not many developers in this day and age add content to their games without a price tag attached.

I am normally pecemistic about a lot of things but In the case of X-Rebirth I am confident that the game will arrive when it is ready, so what if that is 2 months time or 2 years time, ive got plenty to fill my life with in the mean time. And who cares if its is positioned to release at a time which is the most "competitive". If the game is good, then the game is good, I don't care if there are tow other space sims out at the same time I will play them when I have exhausted my first play through of X-Rebirth.

Egosoft are clearly actively working on the product as evidenced in the new videos and Egosoft as a studio is clearly active as it is signing off new content for its existing products. People just need to be patient. The game is coming, just everyone stop with the fancy phrases and putting the world to rights because you have to wait a bit longer to play a videogame. When there is concrete evidence of the game being cancelled etc then start complaining.


On that note im off to play some Skyrim DLC ;) lol
I'm sorry, is it me you are referring to when you say people live in a world where they expect things they are not entitled to and we just expect it to be provided to us?

If you are, let me remind you that X:R is not some hollier-then-christ production that I should feel privileged to have been granted the chance to experience - it is a commercial product, one that egosoft is proposing I pay money for, and if their previous games are anything to go by then it will be a full priced commercial product. I earn the right to play and expect it to be of high quality and (this part is fairly critical) on time by obtaining the funds with which I shall pay.

I do however appreciate the way in which you say I expect it to be produced in the same way some bro-shooter is produced, that you are inferring that any detractor of egosoft or anyone fed up by their poor communication and delays (ie, in this case, me) is somehow some mindless COD/MOH bro gamer who expects his game-play to be uninspired and most of all unchallenging, bland and boring because it suits him. Its subtle, somewhat, and I can appreciate that.

The problem with your statement is where you say "noone knows exactly why" the game was delayed, and that is where I draw the line. I really, really really was looking forward to x:r - two years ago. I have been strung along, kept out of the loop, holding my hopes up and all I have really gotten is a great big silence. The new vid's are nice, but they don't really tell me that much. Their of fairly poor quality, and they seem to exist just so egosoft can say "look, we did something!" - they could of been made at any point, and they spend more time talking to the developers and are very light on detail as far as I am concerned.

So I am sorry if I come across as a bit jaded, but its because egosoft has made me so. I was pinning a lot on this game being the reboot that X needed, and I really really really wanted to like it. Egosoft took that trust and mishandled it to the point where it just doesn't exist anymore, and that is their fault, not mine.
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Clock_Work wrote:HEY! At least we know its gonna be released sometime in this millennium. I was worried we'd have to wait until the year 3000. :lol:
Some consider 3000 to be part of the current millennium.

Hornet108: my view is: have you pre-ordered it? pre-paid for it? If not, then you're not entitled to anything.

That said, Egosoft should know (and I think they do) that delays and lack of advertising or news on the game drive people away. I'm pretty sure they've noticed the shrinking of the "currently online" lists for these forums, and I really doubt that Egosoft and Deep Silver are going to put extra effort into their advertising campaigns to recoup the extra loss of interest caused by the delays and silence.

We can't put pressure on them, though. We have no control over the release date decisions. All we can do is vote with the wallet when it comes out and not buy it, or buy it later when it gets discounted (that would be us delaying their payments, in a way).

They're proud of X:R, it shows in some of the videos. The videos also show some stuff that I might not like in a game, too. We'll see when it is released. I believe we're long past the age of people splurging $60 on games willy-nilly, before reviews even come in with an actual score.
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I'm sorry, is it me you are referring to when you say people live in a world where they expect things they are not entitled to and we just expect it to be provided to us?
He was careful to use "we" so pretty much directed to all. Anyway this is not a kick starter project so we are not entitled to anything. I find no difference between this game release and the release of hundred of games before, same pace for screenshots, video teasers and interviews, and marketing campaign just before game hits the shelves.
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santi wrote:
I'm sorry, is it me you are referring to when you say people live in a world where they expect things they are not entitled to and we just expect it to be provided to us?
He was careful to use "we" so pretty much directed to all. Anyway this is not a kick starter project so we are not entitled to anything. I find no difference between this game release and the release of hundred of games before, same pace for screenshots, video teasers and interviews, and marketing campaign just before game hits the shelves.
Exactly right it was not personal, it was aimed at a particular nameless group.

Hornet108 reading your post you are obviously taking it personally (which its not) and I appreciate you are passionate about X-Rebirth but you have pretty much proved my point by saying its a commercial product and it should be on time if your going to spend your money on it! X-Rebirth is no ones private project that Egosoft are being payed to create, the game is not a commission payed for in advance with a deadline or as said above a kickstarter were you have given money and nothing comes of it. The point I am making is thatno one least of all egosoft have to do anything, if I said to you I was making a fantastic space sim but I ended up never even bothering to make it then I have no obligation to make the game because I said I would , so with that in mind be grateful that until Bernd comes on these forums and official announces the game is cancelled, Rebirth is still on its way! Some of the best games I have ever played have taken 5-6 years to produce from concept planning to finished production. The advantage some larger companys have is that they can allocate a proportion of devs to create other game title in between their major franchises. a small team like egosoft don't realy have that luxury but they still managed to release AP to fill the gap.
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Still no release date? Meh.
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Earth ultimatum IV. wrote:Still no release date? Meh.

Nope....we still have a long way to go until december or sometime 2014 :roll:
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Nikola515 wrote:
Earth ultimatum IV. wrote:Still no release date? Meh.

Nope....we still have a long way to go until december or sometime 2014* :roll:
*if your lucky

I am starting to think that some catastrophe occurred at egosoft, or they got close to the end and decided it was a steaming pile and had to start again. That's why they have been extremely light on details - because honestly, there is very little so far to show. I have been tracking this game for years as I have previously stated and as such egosoft SHOULD have been working on it for as long, by now they MUST have something to show - unless they don't.

This game draws an awful lot of parallels with another train wreck I observed many years ago called BREED - it was also full of promise, then full of delays, then full of shit, going down as one of the worst games every made.
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Hornet108 wrote:I am starting to think that some catastrophe occurred at egosoft, or they got close to the end and decided it was a steaming pile and had to start again. That's why they have been extremely light on details - because honestly, there is very little so far to show. I have been tracking this game for years as I have previously stated and as such egosoft SHOULD have been working on it for as long, by now they MUST have something to show - unless they don't.
Unless they can't, actually. This has been explained at least a couple of million times before - Egosoft aren't allowed (by the terms of their agreement with publisher Deepsilver) to release much information prior to the marketing push before release of the game. Said marketing push will start roughly a month before release.

As has also been explained, there was an accumulation of minor issues which pushed the release date into 2013, but CBJ has stuck his head in this thread many, many times to reassure people who make the same comments that no, rumours of Egosoft's demise are greatly exaggerated, and yes, Rebirth is still being worked on and is still on track for release in 2013.
This game draws an awful lot of parallels with another train wreck I observed many years ago called BREED - it was also full of promise, then full of delays, then full of shit, going down as one of the worst games every made.
This game draws on parallels with any game which has had a delayed release for any reason whatsoever, not all of which have been disasters.
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That's a very weak argument. Nobody wants the world to think that their game is in development-purgatory. That's just what X Rebirth looks like to many people.

It's like developer diaries are a mortal sin around here.
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Yeah, I am sorry, you just can't excuse egosoft's poor handling of the PR on this game. "We can't talk because our hands are tied by out publisher" sounds an awful lot like "The dog ate my homework" to me.
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Sure you can, PR isn't Egosoft's responsibility, it's Deep Silver's
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