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Trump invokes war time Alien Enemies Act of 1798 and it's gets temporarily blocked by Judge

https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/trump-ali ... -1.7484892

The act has only been used three times before in U.S. history, all during wars. Its most recent application was during the Second World War, when it was used to incarcerate Germans and Italians as well as for the mass internment of Japanese-American civilians.

James E. Boasberg, chief judge for the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, said he needed to issue his order immediately because the government was already flying migrants it claimed were newly deportable under Trump's proclamation to El Salvador and Honduras to be incarcerated there. El Salvador already agreed this week to take up to 300 migrants that the Trump administration designated as gang members.

Trump might impose travel bans on many countries

https://nypost.com/2025/03/15/us-news/t ... countries/

US might once again get company towns (freedom cities as they are being called). Legislation might be introduced next year. Some scifi stuff. Used in China and other places they have slavery, unmonitored human testing, etc.... In the US they were very bad and got removed for good reasons.

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Rot from the top...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... or-veteran
Black Medal of Honor recipient removed from US department of defense website
Page honoring Charles C Rogers for his Vietnam war service is now defunct with letters “DEI” added to website address
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Chips wrote: Sun, 16. Mar 25, 20:57 Rot from the top...

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/202 ... or-veteran
Black Medal of Honor recipient removed from US department of defense website
Page honoring Charles C Rogers for his Vietnam war service is now defunct with letters “DEI” added to website address
Utter shameful
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Re: Trump Presidency

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Yet another example of how depraved republicans are and the people that vote for them.
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I have to give it to them, they did a great job of relabeling white male supremacy and making it marketable. „Anti-political correctness“, „Anti-Woke“, „Anti-DEI“ and so on. All it ever meant was: People who are not white*, straight* and male* should have less rights. Yet they managed to make the focus on who they were against, instead of actually focusing on who this was beneficial to.

*because you can be the wrong type of white, the wrong type of straight and the wrong type of male as well. Honestly it is a very select club.
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Re: Trump Presidency

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Well Observe, you said something along the lines of hyperbole, when I said some weeks ago that Social Security might be on DOGE's chopping block.

Well, here is more proof that it is.

Social Security Employees Warn of Damage From DOGE

New York Times: “The Social Security Administration, which sends retirement, survivor and disability payments to 73 million people each month, has long been called the ‘third rail’ of politics — largely untouchable given its widespread popularity and role as one of the country’s remaining safety nets.”

“But in recent weeks, the Trump administration, led by Elon Musk’s crew of cost cutters at the Department of Government Efficiency, or DOGE, has taken its chain saw to the agency’s operations. The agency has announced plans to cut up to 12 percent of its work force, at a time its staffing is at a 50-year low. It has also offered early retirement and other incentives, including payments up to $25,000, to the entire staff.”

“Many current and former Social Security officials fear the cuts could create gaping holes in the agency’s infrastructure, destabilizing the program, which keeps millions of people out of poverty and large percentages of retirees rely on for the bulk of their income.”
Could this be the straw that breaks the camel's back? if this gets gutted like the other agencies, it will certainly do a great deal of damage. and people will no longer have much support. Even Trump's MAGA faithful may finally start to feel the pain. hopefuly this will be a bridge too far. About time America wakes up from this madness.
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matthewfarmery wrote: Mon, 17. Mar 25, 13:02 Well Observe, you said something along the lines of hyperbole, when I said some weeks ago that Social Security might be on DOGE's chopping block.
Social Security IS NOT on the chopping block. The Social Security administration itself, as with all federal agencies is under DOGE review. Some (12%) of SS employees may lose their jobs.

Ever since I can remember, Social Security has been the boy who called wolf. It's true that we could lose SS, but that would only happen when the country goes bankrupt. Preventing such an outcome, is why DOGE exists!

Again, we should be cheering DODGE, not blaming the sad state of current affairs on it.
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Still part of it is been cut, which then might mean that more will likely get cut, even if some of the workforce does lose their jobs, it will still effect people getting checks etc. So people should not be cheering DOGE. it will only be a matter of time.
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matthewfarmery wrote: Mon, 17. Mar 25, 18:52So people should not be cheering DOGE. it will only be a matter of time.
Yes, you are right. It will only be a matter of time before SS runs out of money. That is, unless DOGE can help save it.
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So another scrubbing
Arlington Cemetery Website Scrubbed

Arlington National Cemetery’s website “has scrubbed dozens of pages on gravesites and educational materials that include histories of prominent Black, Hispanic and female service members buried in the cemetery, along with educational material on dozens of Medal of Honor recipients and maps of prominent gravesites,” Task & Purpose reports.
seriously, what the hell?
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Observe wrote: Mon, 17. Mar 25, 18:55
matthewfarmery wrote: Mon, 17. Mar 25, 18:52So people should not be cheering DOGE. it will only be a matter of time.
Yes, you are right. It will only be a matter of time before SS runs out of money. That is, unless DOGE can help save it.
BS. RWNJs have been saying SS is gonna run out of money 3 years from now for the last 20+ years. And every time it miraculously doesn't. The people feeding you this lie are the billionaires that don't want you to reap the benefits of retirement. Sitting on their ass doing nothing is their purview, not yours. Yes, adjustments have to be made as we live longer and cost of living goes up but RWNJs dont want to adjust pay scales for that inflation (yet another thing billionaires push to keep us middle and low class people in our place). Your lil Elon dip shit isn't going to do anything to save SS or anything to benefit us. You've been fed a lie, and you should be absolutely ashamed of yourself for believing a damn word of it.
Reap what you sow.

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Vertigo 7 wrote: Mon, 17. Mar 25, 19:05The people feeding you this lie are the billionaires that don't want you to reap the benefits of retirement.
Actually, the people "feeding" this narrative are reports from SSA and the Congressional Budget Office (CBO). The SSA's 2024 Trustees Report indicates that the Old-Age and Survivors Insurance (OASI) Trust Fund will be able to pay 100% of scheduled benefits until 2033. At that point, the fund's reserves will be depleted.

Congress has a habit of kicking this can down the road, and they’ve pulled last-minute fixes before. I can't be bothered weeding through budget reports for exact links right now. You can search yourself if you are interested.
You've been fed a lie, and you should be absolutely ashamed of yourself for believing a damn word of it.
I understand why you are so upset. Too bad you are pointing in the wrong direction. Actually, there is no single direction. Both parties have abused and neglected the SS system for a long time.

That is why it is curious that Democrats are so opposed to DOGE. Everyone benefits from increased government efficiency. I think it is a case of anything and everything that Trump, or anyone associated with him does is automatically bad and must be blindly condemned.
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Has to be said, trimming waste, increasing efficiency, isn't a bad thing. The concern should be whether that's what is actually going to happen - to be the outcome. Do they have anyone, or recruiting anyone, or identifying anyone capable of finding/improving/optimising?

One thing Govt departments are legendary for is entrenchment and therefore failing to keep up/improve/adapt or adopt best/latest practices. Unless you've employed the people who are talented and capable of doing so, things can't get better just by "cutting" departments. It's not going to force improvements either... and from the howls, most seem to believe none of this is intending to improve/optimise. Just to cut/punish.

Are you really confident that the cuts are going to improve things? Create/generate innovations and practices that deliver better, faster, stronger than before? Really? Or do you just believe that they're vastly overstaffed and plain lazy.
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Chips wrote: Mon, 17. Mar 25, 22:35Are you really confident that the cuts are going to improve things? Create/generate innovations and practices that deliver better, faster, stronger than before? Really? Or do you just believe that they're vastly overstaffed and plain lazy.
When it comes to Trump, I am not confident of anything. On the other hand, I was confident that Biden/Harris would do the wrong thing. I do think that there is probably a lot of waste, inefficiencies and likely fraud in the mix. These things are natural with entrenched bureaucracies. Whether and to what extent the current administration can improve the situation remains to be seen. Right now, it all seems overly hurried and brutal, with little consideration to the devastating impact this is having on people affected.
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Trump was the worst choice. Biden was weak and old. He didn't deal with issues. Part of it was because of the election coming up. Biden should have armed Ukraine better with fewer restrictions. Some weapons where destroyed that Ukraine could have used. Would have been cheaper than destroying them also. Harris would have been the best choice. US hasn't been in a worse position in a very long time and it's still going down hill.
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On a bit of an odd and somewhat lighter note, America has been going around asking countries for eggs. They now have also asked us (Germany). Now, I don't really have an opinion on this, eggs are currently cheap here (my supermarket sells 18 eggs for 4€), but the thing I found somewhat interesting is that they also asked Denmark. You have been threatening Denmark for weeks now and you now you come crawling to them for eggs? WTF? Why would Denmark of all people help America solve its first world problem?
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it seems Trump treats other smaller countries similarly to Putin

they only get to follow on what US asks
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clakclak wrote: Tue, 18. Mar 25, 09:44 On a bit of an odd and somewhat lighter note, America has been going around asking countries for eggs. They now have also asked us (Germany). Now, I don't really have an opinion on this, eggs are currently cheap here (my supermarket sells 18 eggs for 4€), but the thing I found somewhat interesting is that they also asked Denmark. You have been threatening Denmark for weeks now and you now you come crawling to them for eggs? WTF? Why would Denmark of all people help America solve its first world problem?
Asking Denmark is indeed weird.

Other than that - helping out the US citizens and providing an Egg Airlift would be a great symbol. As long as Trump doesn't get some and if they eggs are painted with the origin countries colors. (I's almost eastern anyways :P ).

Nah, on a more serious note: no strings attached. But Trump really should renounce.

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https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c8j0vwpkwkxo
The chief justice of the US Supreme Court has released a rare statement in response to President Donald Trump's call to impeach a judge who ruled against his administration over migrant deportations.

"For more than two centuries, it has been established that impeachment is not an appropriate response to disagreement concerning a judicial decision," Chief Justice John Roberts said in a statement.
Maybe some folks still have some testicular fortitude in the USA.
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chew-ie wrote: Tue, 18. Mar 25, 20:03
clakclak wrote: Tue, 18. Mar 25, 09:44 On a bit of an odd and somewhat lighter note, America has been going around asking countries for eggs. They now have also asked us (Germany). Now, I don't really have an opinion on this, eggs are currently cheap here (my supermarket sells 18 eggs for 4€), but the thing I found somewhat interesting is that they also asked Denmark. You have been threatening Denmark for weeks now and you now you come crawling to them for eggs? WTF? Why would Denmark of all people help America solve its first world problem?
Asking Denmark is indeed weird.

Other than that - helping out the US citizens and providing an Egg Airlift would be a great symbol. As long as Trump doesn't get some and if they eggs are painted with the origin countries colors. (I's almost eastern anyways :P ).

Nah, on a more serious note: no strings attached. But Trump really should renounce.

I imagine Denmark doing "Tarrif these eggs" when selling them to US :D

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