The jasmine revolution spreads?

[Warenwolf]

Another article which is related to the latest subject in this thread:

The west clings on to the old Arab order at its peril

Egypt's regime still holds out - the powerful espionage chief, nowadays the vice president of the Egypt, stated today that there will be "no ending of the regime" and no immediate departure for President Hosni Mubarak.

More directly he also stated that unless the talks produce results:

Suleiman warned that the alternative to dialogue "is that a coup happens, which would mean uncalculated and hasty steps, including lots of irrationalities."

New video showing violent clashes between pro-democracy protesters and supporters of Hosni Mubarak has been obtained by Al Jazeera.

So the regime's plans for the future as I see it:
Regime stays (no surprise) and egypt remains the real life version of Tropico.
Hosni Mubarak may depart with his fortune sometimes in the undefined future and Suleiman may be maneuvering for the post of dictator / president (?).

[Aye Capn]

More likely they'd try to play both sides, since a lot of the Arab people of Egypt vehemently hate Israel, but none of the political parties (I think) would be dumb enough to throw away all that American money and get Israeli bombs instead. So public (but not too excessive) denouncements of Israel while making deals behind the scenes, is the sort of thing I'd expect.

Good call.

[travisdh1]

More likely they'd try to play both sides, since a lot of the Arab people of Egypt vehemently hate Israel, but none of the political parties (I think) would be dumb enough to throw away all that American money and get Israeli bombs instead. So public (but not too excessive) denouncements of Israel while making deals behind the scenes, is the sort of thing I'd expect.

What's this? Common sense? We can't have any of that!

I'm still a pessimist at heart, but I think you've nailed this one.

[BeidAmmikon]

On Twitter there are several reports of the Egyptian army "raising yellow flags near tanks" and many are asking what this means.

[Warenwolf]

Some time ago announcement have been made that Mubarak is to address Egypt in the next few hours. (source)

Several newspapers, citing unknown sources, claim that Mubark will announce that he is stepping down. At same time it is speculated that he will be relinquishing the power to the vice-president which really isn't much of change for Egyptian people.

Update:

Egypt's information minister has told Reuters Mubarak is not steping down. Anyway Mubarak will be on the air shortly so we'll know for sure.

[Tracker001]

A PA is being set up now at the square .

Getting conflicting reports about what is going on with Muarak though .

Egypt's information minister has told Reuters Mubarak is not steping down. Anyway Mubarak will be on the air shortly so we'll know for sure.

Already been said .

[Aye Capn]

The end of the end ... or echoes of Baghdad Bob?

[Xenon_Slayer]

Watching the BBC coverage of both the address from Mubarak and the scenes in the square. From the sounds of the crowds, this is car-crash TV.

[Warenwolf]

Mubarak says he will delegate powers to Vice President Omar Suleiman, according to the constitution. He also says he will stay in office until September, and will not bow down to 'foreign pressure'.

The crowd shows him their shoes, which I pressume is not a sign of pleasure.

[BeidAmmikon]

The sounds of Tahrir Square, Cairo, Egypt, 10th of February, 2011, ~19 GMT - 6 minutes of exuberance.

Les Miserables - Do you hear the people sing? - a warning to miserable leaders.

[Warenwolf]

An article about the coming (if everything goes according to the plans) leader of Egypt:

"He's a charitable man, friendly - He tortures only people that he doesn't know."



Wiki article

[Sorkvild]

They got great choice of potential leaders - only crooked characters from Mubarak's office. I knew that Mubarak won't go that easily, this guy has serious balls to rule Egypt for some many years and to stay even if the country is boiling and some people are eager to hang him.

[brucewarren]

I suspect. that like a lot of dictators, it's not courage that makes him stay
on, but fear. Fear that the moment he steps down, or lets go the reins
of power for an instant, the crowd would literally tear him limb from limb.

[Sorkvild]

I don't think he's dumb enough to step down and go straight into the crowd. In case of stepping down, he would rather go to Saudi Arabia first and down few a beers with his exiled buddy from Tunisia The major problem might be where to go first Doha? Dubai or maybe Jeddah?

Ben Ali was forced to reconsider his options mid air and amid conflicting rumours that he was heading for either Doha or Dubai he eventually arrived in Jeddah, Saudi Arabia early on Saturday 15 January, where he was welcomed by the authorities

[Shock223]

well, he's staying..

[felter]

Just watched it on Aljazeera and all I can say is, they are your typical Politicians, as they do not have a clue about what the real people of their country wants and needs, all they know is what their Imaginary population wants, which in reality is what they want and what is good for themselves, just like our own politicians in other words.

One thing he shouldn't be saying is, he wants to die and be buried in Egypt, because if he keeps on going the way he is, that may just happen sooner than he thinks.

[Xenon_Slayer]

Breaking News: Mubarak stepping down

[Gazz]

Now to see who the next dictator will be. =P

[Asmayus]

President murbark has resigned!

live stream of the crowds in Cario's liberation square:

http://content.usatoday.com/communities ... ency-law/1

woop woop!



Edit, ah, sorry, I thought the jasmine thread had sunk to page two or something.

My apologies!

[logan86]

Just to flesh out that breaking news a bit here is a link:

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-12433045