NEWS: X³: Terran Conflict Rolling Demo available for download

General discussions about the games by Egosoft including X-BTF, XT, X², X³: Reunion, X³: Terran Conflict and X³: Albion Prelude.

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RavenEye
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Post by RavenEye »

Solved the audio problems with the demo - with some help @:

http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php? ... 05#2626605

Thanks guys :) .
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D_Zorro
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Post by D_Zorro »

The demo plays horrible even though in game it looks kind of different.

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X3 - Terran Conflict
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Game Version: 1.2.0.0

Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.080814-1236)
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Graphics Card Info: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS [320 MB] Driver: 6.14.0011.7519
CPU Info: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.66GHz (2 CPUs)
Usable System Memory: 2048 MB


Video Settings During Benchmark:
Screen Resolution: 1024 x 768 * [32], fullscreen
Using Shader Profile: 3.0
Antialias Mode: 2x
Anisotropic Mode: NONE

Graphics & Shader Settings:
Texture Quality: high
Shader Quality: high
High Quality Bumpmaps: enabled
Environment Mapping: enabled
Glow Filter: enabled
Ship Color Variations: enabled
More Dynamic Lights: enabled
Used Vertexsize: 40 bytes

Framerates
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Scene "Trade" 13.3 average fps 1.0 minimum fps 26.0 maximum fps
Scene "Fight" 26.7 average fps 9.0 minimum fps 64.0 maximum fps
Scene "Build" 37.3 average fps 22.0 minimum fps 67.0 maximum fps
Scene "Think" 16.3 average fps 9.0 minimum fps 28.0 maximum fps

Overall average framerate: 23.4 fps


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For more information visit http://www.egosoft.com
Btw i see that some people play with shader 1.0 how can i change shader 3.0 to 1.0 ??
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Videocard : Nvidia Geforce 8800 GTS 320mb : Realtek
Laptop : AMD athlon 64 3200 + 1024 DDR 80 gig HD Conexant AMC Audio, Ati mobility Radeon Express 200
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shireknight
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Post by shireknight »

exogenesis wrote:Started an Excel spread sheet (1st page this thread) at:
http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php? ... 31#2620931

Contains all PCMark05 & 3DMark06 values for each entry in this thread (up to page 6 so far).

Would be easier to be able to have people enter their own stuff,
but I haven't got an interactive web site set up.

The largest group with consistent settings is
1280x1024 all seting High,
14 of the 92 so far (+ 13 similar enough).

I wonder if it's worth everyone submitting an entry like that ?
Nice work there exogenesis :D, don't know if you want the gaps filled in or not mate but just in case you do I thought I'd let you know that I'm running a single 4850 (at the moment my two entries says 4870? :)
My (new) PC:-

Intel® Core™ i7-4770 processor (3.4 GHz, 8 MB cache)
Microsoft Windows 10
16 GB DDR3 Ram
NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1060 6 GB GDDR5
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Poobah
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Post by Poobah »

exogenesis wrote:Started an Excel spread sheet (1st page this thread) at:
http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php? ... 31#2620931

Contains all PCMark05 & 3DMark06 values for each entry in this thread (up to page 6 so far).

Would be easier to be able to have people enter their own stuff,
but I haven't got an interactive web site set up.

The largest group with consistent settings is
1280x1024 all seting High,
14 of the 92 so far (+ 13 similar enough).

I wonder if it's worth everyone submitting an entry like that ?
Can't use a higher resolution, but I'll see what happens if I turn some more things up, perhaps that'll manage where I failed before and melt my hugely inadequate graphics card ^_^
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danleach
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Post by danleach »

Here's mine

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X3 - Terran Conflict
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Game Version: 1.2.0.0

Operating System: Windows Vista™ Ultimate (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.vistasp1_gdr.080917-1612)
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
Graphics Card Info: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 [2290 MB] Driver: 7.15.0011.7824
CPU Info: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+ (2 CPUs), ~2.6GHz
Usable System Memory: 3326 MB


Video Settings During Benchmark:
Screen Resolution: 1920 x 1200 * [32], fullscreen
Using Shader Profile: 3.0
Antialias Mode: 4x
Anisotropic Mode: NONE

Graphics & Shader Settings:
Texture Quality: high
Shader Quality: high
High Quality Bumpmaps: enabled
Environment Mapping: enabled
Glow Filter: enabled
Ship Color Variations: disabled
More Dynamic Lights: disabled
Used Vertexsize: 40 bytes

Framerates
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Scene "Trade" 25.5 average fps 8.0 minimum fps 55.0 maximum fps
Scene "Fight" 53.9 average fps 20.0 minimum fps 117.0 maximum fps
Scene "Build" 72.5 average fps 42.0 minimum fps 110.0 maximum fps
Scene "Think" 34.3 average fps 18.0 minimum fps 59.0 maximum fps

Overall average framerate: 46.6 fps


(c)2008 EGOSOFT
For more information visit http://www.egosoft.com
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brianwillis
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Post by brianwillis »

To Danleach...
danleach wrote:Here's mine

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X3 - Terran Conflict
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Game Version: 1.2.0.0

Operating System: Windows Vista™ Ultimate (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.vistasp1_gdr.080917-1612)
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
Graphics Card Info: NVIDIA GeForce GTX 260 [2290 MB] Driver: 7.15.0011.7824
CPU Info: AMD Athlon(tm) 64 X2 Dual Core Processor 5200+ (2 CPUs), ~2.6GHz
Usable System Memory: 3326 MB


Video Settings During Benchmark:
Screen Resolution: 1920 x 1200 * [32], fullscreen
Using Shader Profile: 3.0
Antialias Mode: 4x
Anisotropic Mode: NONE

Graphics & Shader Settings:
Texture Quality: high
Shader Quality: high
High Quality Bumpmaps: enabled
Environment Mapping: enabled
Glow Filter: enabled
Ship Color Variations: disabled
More Dynamic Lights: disabled
Used Vertexsize: 40 bytes

Framerates
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Scene "Trade" 25.5 average fps 8.0 minimum fps 55.0 maximum fps
Scene "Fight" 53.9 average fps 20.0 minimum fps 117.0 maximum fps
Scene "Build" 72.5 average fps 42.0 minimum fps 110.0 maximum fps
Scene "Think" 34.3 average fps 18.0 minimum fps 59.0 maximum fps

Overall average framerate: 46.6 fps


(c)2008 EGOSOFT
For more information visit http://www.egosoft.com
I reckon with an AMD 6000+ X2 CPU on a 10% over clock (3.3Ghz) you could get an average frame rate of about 60 with the rest of your build.

What GPU did you have before the GTX260? I'd like to know the difference between the GTX260 and my 8800GTS as I am building a new system soon, and I want to know if it might be a better option to wait until the next generation of Nvidia GPU's come out.

Thanks mate, have fun,
Brian :)
http://www.youtube.com/user/britrb32
My YouTube Channel. Click the Subscribe button to avoid disappointment ;)
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Poobah
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Post by Poobah »

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   X3 - Terran Conflict
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Game Version: 1.2.0.0

Operating System:	Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.080814-1233)
DirectX Version:	DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Graphics Card Info:	RADEON 9200 SERIES   [128 MB]    Driver: 6.14.0010.6614
CPU Info:		Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.53GHz
Usable System Memory:	1022 MB


Video Settings During Benchmark:
	Screen Resolution:	1024 x 768 * [32], fullscreen
	Using Shader Profile:	1.4
	Antialias Mode:		NONE
	Anisotropic Mode:	16x

Graphics & Shader Settings:
	Texture Quality:	high
	Shader Quality:		high
	High Quality Bumpmaps:	disabled
	Environment Mapping:	enabled
	Glow Filter:		disabled
	Ship Color Variations:	disabled
	More Dynamic Lights:	enabled
	Used Vertexsize:	40 bytes

Framerates
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  Scene "Trade"	 8.2 average fps	 1.0 minimum fps	 22.0 maximum fps
  Scene "Fight"	 9.9 average fps	 2.0 minimum fps	 23.0 maximum fps
  Scene "Build"	 6.5 average fps	 2.0 minimum fps	 11.0 maximum fps
  Scene "Think"	 5.0 average fps	 0.0 minimum fps	 1.0 maximum fps

Overall average framerate: 7.4 fps


(c)2008 EGOSOFT
For more information visit http://www.egosoft.com
My card still hasn't melted :( I might buy the game anyways and see exactly how unplayable it is with everything turned all the way down, I'm very surprised by the fact that the game is even running with my card being miles below the minimum reqs. Mm heres to hoping I've enough money by christmas to get something capable of doing the game justice?
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exogenesis
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Post by exogenesis »

iriyak, cheers, parsing this thread would be great, but I think there's too many difficulties with that.
shireknight, corrected your GPU for next update (every 2 or 3 pages OK?, or should I only update every 5th page?).
mufassa, can't go higher than 1024 ?, time for a new PC, good luck saving :)
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brianwillis
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Post by brianwillis »

mufassa wrote:

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   X3 - Terran Conflict
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Game Version: 1.2.0.0

Operating System:	Windows XP Home Edition (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_gdr.080814-1233)
DirectX Version:	DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Graphics Card Info:	RADEON 9200 SERIES   [128 MB]    Driver: 6.14.0010.6614
CPU Info:		Intel(R) Pentium(R) 4 CPU 2.53GHz
Usable System Memory:	1022 MB


Video Settings During Benchmark:
	Screen Resolution:	1024 x 768 * [32], fullscreen
	Using Shader Profile:	1.4
	Antialias Mode:		NONE
	Anisotropic Mode:	16x

Graphics & Shader Settings:
	Texture Quality:	high
	Shader Quality:		high
	High Quality Bumpmaps:	disabled
	Environment Mapping:	enabled
	Glow Filter:		disabled
	Ship Color Variations:	disabled
	More Dynamic Lights:	enabled
	Used Vertexsize:	40 bytes

Framerates
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Scene "Trade"	 8.2 average fps	 1.0 minimum fps	 22.0 maximum fps
  Scene "Fight"	 9.9 average fps	 2.0 minimum fps	 23.0 maximum fps
  Scene "Build"	 6.5 average fps	 2.0 minimum fps	 11.0 maximum fps
  Scene "Think"	 5.0 average fps	 0.0 minimum fps	 1.0 maximum fps

Overall average framerate: 7.4 fps


(c)2008 EGOSOFT
For more information visit http://www.egosoft.com
My card still hasn't melted :( I might buy the game anyways and see exactly how unplayable it is with everything turned all the way down, I'm very surprised by the fact that the game is even running with my card being miles below the minimum reqs. Mm heres to hoping I've enough money by christmas to get something capable of doing the game justice?
There are plenty of GPU cards out there that will run X3TC brilliantly and are very reasonably priced (even below the price of the game itself!!)

Good luck mate,
Brian :)
http://www.youtube.com/user/britrb32
My YouTube Channel. Click the Subscribe button to avoid disappointment ;)
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Toron
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Post by Toron »

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X3 - Terran Conflict
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Game Version: 1.2.0.0

Operating System:	Windows XP Professional x64 Edition (5.2, Build 3790) Service Pack 2 (3790.srv03_sp2_gdr.080813-1204)
DirectX Version:	DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Graphics Card Info:	ATI Radeon HD 3800 Series [512 MB]    Driver: 6.14.0010.6869
CPU Info:		Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Quad CPU    Q6600  @ 2.40GHz (4 CPUs), ~2.4GHz
Usable System Memory:	4094 MB


Video Settings During Benchmark:
	Screen Resolution:	1280 x 1024 * [32], fullscreen
	Using Shader Profile:	3.0
	Antialias Mode:		4x
	Anisotropic Mode:	8x

Graphics & Shader Settings:
	Texture Quality:	high
	Shader Quality:		high
	High Quality Bumpmaps:	enabled
	Environment Mapping:	enabled
	Glow Filter:		enabled
	Ship Color Variations:	enabled
	More Dynamic Lights:	enabled
	Used Vertexsize:	28 bytes

Framerates
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Scene "Trade"	 30.3 average fps	 8.0 minimum fps	 65.0 maximum fps
  Scene "Fight"	 57.9 average fps	 22.0 minimum fps	 111.0 maximum fps
  Scene "Build"	 72.7 average fps	 45.0 minimum fps	 110.0 maximum fps
  Scene "Think"	 34.1 average fps	 19.0 minimum fps	 62.0 maximum fps

Overall average framerate: 48.8 fps


(c)2008 EGOSOFT
For more information visit http://www.egosoft.com
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A5PECT
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Post by A5PECT »

I'm a bit perturbed by the extreme minimum framerates occurring in many user's tests.

Maximum Settings

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   X3 - Terran Conflict
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Game Version: 1.2.0.0

Operating System:	Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.080814-1236)
DirectX Version:	DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Graphics Card Info:	NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 512 [512 MB]    Driver: 6.14.0011.7824
CPU Info:		Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6600  @ 2.40GHz (2 CPUs)
Usable System Memory:	3070 MB


Video Settings During Benchmark:
	Screen Resolution:	1680 x 1050 * [32], fullscreen
	Using Shader Profile:	3.0
	Antialias Mode:		8x
	Anisotropic Mode:	16x

Graphics & Shader Settings:
	Texture Quality:	high
	Shader Quality:		high
	High Quality Bumpmaps:	enabled
	Environment Mapping:	enabled
	Glow Filter:		enabled
	Ship Color Variations:	enabled
	More Dynamic Lights:	enabled
	Used Vertexsize:	40 bytes

Framerates
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Scene "Trade"	 26.8 average fps	 7.0 minimum fps	 61.0 maximum fps
  Scene "Fight"	 51.5 average fps	 20.0 minimum fps	 111.0 maximum fps
  Scene "Build"	 50.3 average fps	 25.0 minimum fps	 67.0 maximum fps
  Scene "Think"	 23.0 average fps	 13.0 minimum fps	 39.0 maximum fps

Overall average framerate: 37.9 fps


(c)2008 EGOSOFT
For more information visit http://www.egosoft.com
Minimum Settings

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   X3 - Terran Conflict
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Game Version: 1.2.0.0

Operating System:	Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.080814-1236)
DirectX Version:	DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Graphics Card Info:	NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS 512 [512 MB]    Driver: 6.14.0011.7824
CPU Info:		Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6600  @ 2.40GHz (2 CPUs)
Usable System Memory:	3070 MB


Video Settings During Benchmark:
	Screen Resolution:	1680 x 1050 * [32], fullscreen
	Using Shader Profile:	1.1
	Antialias Mode:		NONE
	Anisotropic Mode:	NONE

Graphics & Shader Settings:
	Texture Quality:	low
	Shader Quality:		low
	High Quality Bumpmaps:	disabled
	Environment Mapping:	disabled
	Glow Filter:		disabled
	Ship Color Variations:	disabled
	More Dynamic Lights:	disabled
	Used Vertexsize:	40 bytes

Framerates
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
  Scene "Trade"	 31.8 average fps	 10.0 minimum fps	 70.0 maximum fps
  Scene "Fight"	 67.1 average fps	 24.0 minimum fps	 160.0 maximum fps
  Scene "Build"	 96.6 average fps	 54.0 minimum fps	 219.0 maximum fps
  Scene "Think"	 46.2 average fps	 24.0 minimum fps	 86.0 maximum fps

Overall average framerate: 60.4 fps


(c)2008 EGOSOFT
For more information visit http://www.egosoft.com
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Post by fireslide »

I get a stutter when the Titan explodes, why?
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Post by lowblack »

X3 - Terran Conflict
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Game Version: 1.2.0.0

Operating System: Windows Server® 2008 Standard (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.longhorn_rtm.080118-1840)
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
Graphics Card Info: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series [2297 MB] Driver: 7.15.0010.0142
CPU Info: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E8400 @ 3.00GHz (2 CPUs), ~3.0GHz
Usable System Memory: 4094 MB


Video Settings During Benchmark:
Screen Resolution: 1680 x 1050 * [32], fullscreen
Using Shader Profile: 3.0
Antialias Mode: 4x
Anisotropic Mode: 16x

Graphics & Shader Settings:
Texture Quality: high
Shader Quality: high
High Quality Bumpmaps: enabled
Environment Mapping: enabled
Glow Filter: enabled
Ship Color Variations: enabled
More Dynamic Lights: enabled
Used Vertexsize: 28 bytes

Framerates
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Scene "Trade" 42.5 average fps 14.0 minimum fps 97.0 maximum fps
Scene "Fight" 84.4 average fps 34.0 minimum fps 167.0 maximum fps
Scene "Build" 107.9 average fps 70.0 minimum fps 157.0 maximum fps
Scene "Think" 49.2 average fps 29.0 minimum fps 94.0 maximum fps

Overall average framerate: 71.0 fps


(c)2008 EGOSOFT
For more information visit http://www.egosoft.com
seems pretty well in server2008 :)
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D_Zorro
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Post by D_Zorro »

I take it this is an engine issue ?? Here is max resolution. As you can see not much different then lower resolution.
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X3 - Terran Conflict
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Game Version: 1.2.0.0

Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.080814-1236)
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Graphics Card Info: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS [320 MB] Driver: 6.14.0011.7519
CPU Info: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.66GHz (2 CPUs)
Usable System Memory: 2048 MB


Video Settings During Benchmark:
Screen Resolution: 1680 x 1050 * [32], fullscreen
Using Shader Profile: 3.0
Antialias Mode: NONE
Anisotropic Mode: NONE

Graphics & Shader Settings:
Texture Quality: high
Shader Quality: high
High Quality Bumpmaps: enabled
Environment Mapping: enabled
Glow Filter: enabled
Ship Color Variations: disabled
More Dynamic Lights: disabled
Used Vertexsize: 40 bytes

Framerates
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Scene "Trade" 11.8 average fps 2.0 minimum fps 25.0 maximum fps
Scene "Fight" 24.9 average fps 9.0 minimum fps 56.0 maximum fps
Scene "Build" 28.8 average fps 18.0 minimum fps 47.0 maximum fps
Scene "Think" 14.5 average fps 8.0 minimum fps 23.0 maximum fps

Overall average framerate: 20.0 fps


(c)2008 EGOSOFT
For more information visit http://www.egosoft.com
This was from my previous post.
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X3 - Terran Conflict
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Game Version: 1.2.0.0

Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.080814-1236)
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Graphics Card Info: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS [320 MB] Driver: 6.14.0011.7519
CPU Info: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.66GHz (2 CPUs)
Usable System Memory: 2048 MB


Video Settings During Benchmark:
Screen Resolution: 1024 x 768 * [32], fullscreen
Using Shader Profile: 3.0
Antialias Mode: 2x
Anisotropic Mode: NONE

Graphics & Shader Settings:
Texture Quality: high
Shader Quality: high
High Quality Bumpmaps: enabled
Environment Mapping: enabled
Glow Filter: enabled
Ship Color Variations: enabled
More Dynamic Lights: enabled
Used Vertexsize: 40 bytes

Framerates
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Scene "Trade" 13.3 average fps 1.0 minimum fps 26.0 maximum fps
Scene "Fight" 26.7 average fps 9.0 minimum fps 64.0 maximum fps
Scene "Build" 37.3 average fps 22.0 minimum fps 67.0 maximum fps
Scene "Think" 16.3 average fps 9.0 minimum fps 28.0 maximum fps

Overall average framerate: 23.4 fps


(c)2008 EGOSOFT
For more information visit http://www.egosoft.com
And this is with everything off.
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X3 - Terran Conflict
--------------------------
Game Version: 1.2.0.0

Operating System: Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.080814-1236)
DirectX Version: DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Graphics Card Info: NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTS [320 MB] Driver: 6.14.0011.7519
CPU Info: Intel(R) Pentium(R) D CPU 2.66GHz (2 CPUs)
Usable System Memory: 2048 MB


Video Settings During Benchmark:
Screen Resolution: 1024 x 768 * [32], fullscreen
Using Shader Profile: 1.1
Antialias Mode: NONE
Anisotropic Mode: NONE

Graphics & Shader Settings:
Texture Quality: low
Shader Quality: low
High Quality Bumpmaps: disabled
Environment Mapping: disabled
Glow Filter: disabled
Ship Color Variations: disabled
More Dynamic Lights: disabled
Used Vertexsize: 64 bytes

Framerates
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Scene "Trade" 15.2 average fps 3.0 minimum fps 29.0 maximum fps
Scene "Fight" 29.7 average fps 11.0 minimum fps 69.0 maximum fps
Scene "Build" 45.6 average fps 27.0 minimum fps 87.0 maximum fps
Scene "Think" 23.1 average fps 12.0 minimum fps 40.0 maximum fps

Overall average framerate: 28.4 fps


(c)2008 EGOSOFT
For more information visit http://www.egosoft.com
System spec: Pentium (R) D 2.66 Ghz, Ram : 2048 DDR, HD : 250 GIG 7200 RPM intern 8 MB cash
Videocard : Nvidia Geforce 8800 GTS 320mb : Realtek
Laptop : AMD athlon 64 3200 + 1024 DDR 80 gig HD Conexant AMC Audio, Ati mobility Radeon Express 200
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georgegr
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Post by georgegr »

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X3 - Terran Conflict
--------------------------
Game Version: 1.2.0.0

Operating System: Windows Vista™ Ultimate (6.0, Build 6001) Service Pack 1 (6001.vistasp1_gdr.080425-1930)
DirectX Version: DirectX 10
Graphics Card Info: ATI Radeon HD 4800 Series [1275 MB] Driver: 7.15.0010.0154
CPU Info: Intel(R) Core(TM)2 Duo CPU E4600 @ 2.40GHz (2 CPUs), ~1.8GHz
Usable System Memory: 2046 MB


Video Settings During Benchmark:
Screen Resolution: 1680 x 1050 * [32], fullscreen
Using Shader Profile: 3.0
Antialias Mode: NONE
Anisotropic Mode: 16x

Graphics & Shader Settings:
Texture Quality: high
Shader Quality: high
High Quality Bumpmaps: enabled
Environment Mapping: enabled
Glow Filter: enabled
Ship Color Variations: enabled
More Dynamic Lights: enabled
Used Vertexsize: 28 bytes

Framerates
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Scene "Trade" 39.6 average fps 13.0 minimum fps 88.0 maximum fps
Scene "Fight" 83.8 average fps 31.0 minimum fps 187.0 maximum fps
Scene "Build" 111.6 average fps 66.0 minimum fps 171.0 maximum fps
Scene "Think" 50.9 average fps 28.0 minimum fps 94.0 maximum fps

Overall average framerate: 71.5 fps


(c)2008 EGOSOFT
For more information visit http://www.egosoft.com
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Yapa
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Post by Yapa »

Hey there,

Just tried the demo and it looks sweet.

I've done many tests and benchmarking is my thing... what I can see here is:

The demo (and maybe game) is CPU limited.... to test this is easy... simply do two tests, with 8xAA and 0xAA, the difference wont be large if you have a mid-range card, say a 8800GT or 4850..... this is because the GPU's are not stressed, the CPU is, even in the demo!

This would also explain why people get much lower FPS in the game, when the economy and other AI parts are activated....

For example:

I have:
3ghz Core 2 Duo
2gb DDR2
8800GTX

I get 56fps with 8xAA and maximum settings, if I turn of AA I get 58fps... no difference means the GPU was not the limiting factor.

Also I tried the very low resolution of 1280x1024 without AA, and got 61fps... again because the CPU is the limiting factor.

Now my CPU is not new, but its neither slow... a 3ghz C2Duo is still quite a fast CPU. The problem is the engine is NOT multi-threaded... it only uses 1 core.... this is seriously limiting the performance in X3-TC.

The game really needs to be multi-core, X through out its history (going back to XBTF) has been CPU limited, and this is no different now. As the game gets better, more work is needed by the CPU and 1 cpu at 3ghz simply is not enough in some situations!

Unfortunatelly patching the engine to use multipe threads is not easy or even possible, so I'm guessing the next X game will have a whole new engine which will be multi-threaded.

For anyone with an 8800GT or higher card I would recommend maxing out your details and 8xAA, it will run only 5 to 10% slower than if you run lower AA. Those with slow CPU's should try overclocking or investing in a new CPU if they love this game.

Yapa
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craigr1982
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Post by craigr1982 »

So I've made a spreadsheet of all the benchmarks done at 1280x1024 as that seems to be a pretty standard resolution for folks.

Its a shame the benchmark doesn't specify the CPU speed properly as that would help a great deal. If your listed on here incorrectly in any way please PM me and I'll change it.

Here you can compare what performs best.

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As other people have said, the X series are always CPU limited.

Enjoy :)
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Yapa
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Post by Yapa »

CPU comparison, 3ghz C2Duo vs 1.86ghz C2Duo.... I downclocked my CPU back to stock and tested, same settings, same system.... only CPU slower.

1.86ghz results:

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   X3 - Terran Conflict
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Game Version: 1.2.0.0

Operating System:	Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_qfe.080814-1242)
DirectX Version:	DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Graphics Card Info:	NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX [768 MB]    Driver: 6.14.0011.8043
CPU Info:		Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6300  @ 1.86GHz (2 CPUs)
Usable System Memory:	2048 MB


Video Settings During Benchmark:
	Screen Resolution:	1280 x 1024 * [32], fullscreen
	Using Shader Profile:	3.0
	Antialias Mode:		NONE
	Anisotropic Mode:	16x

Graphics & Shader Settings:
	Texture Quality:	high
	Shader Quality:		high
	High Quality Bumpmaps:	enabled
	Environment Mapping:	enabled
	Glow Filter:		enabled
	Ship Color Variations:	enabled
	More Dynamic Lights:	enabled
	Used Vertexsize:	40 bytes

Framerates
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  Scene "Trade"	 23.8 average fps	 4.0 minimum fps	 50.0 maximum fps
  Scene "Fight"	 50.4 average fps	 17.0 minimum fps	 127.0 maximum fps
  Scene "Build"	 67.7 average fps	 36.0 minimum fps	 144.0 maximum fps
  Scene "Think"	 31.7 average fps	 15.0 minimum fps	 59.0 maximum fps

Overall average framerate: 43.4 fps

3ghz results:

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   X3 - Terran Conflict
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Game Version: 1.2.0.0

Operating System:	Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 2 (2600.xpsp_sp2_qfe.080814-1242)
DirectX Version:	DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Graphics Card Info:	NVIDIA GeForce 8800 GTX [768 MB]    Driver: 6.14.0011.8043
CPU Info:		Intel(R) Core(TM)2 CPU          6300  @ 1.86GHz (2 CPUs)
Usable System Memory:	2048 MB


Video Settings During Benchmark:
	Screen Resolution:	1280 x 1024 * [32], fullscreen
	Using Shader Profile:	3.0
	Antialias Mode:		NONE
	Anisotropic Mode:	16x

Graphics & Shader Settings:
	Texture Quality:	high
	Shader Quality:		high
	High Quality Bumpmaps:	enabled
	Environment Mapping:	enabled
	Glow Filter:		enabled
	Ship Color Variations:	enabled
	More Dynamic Lights:	enabled
	Used Vertexsize:	40 bytes

Framerates
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  Scene "Trade"	 34.7 average fps	 9.0 minimum fps	 72.0 maximum fps
  Scene "Fight"	 72.4 average fps	 25.0 minimum fps	 180.0 maximum fps
  Scene "Build"	 93.0 average fps	 53.0 minimum fps	 145.0 maximum fps
  Scene "Think"	 43.1 average fps	 23.0 minimum fps	 67.0 maximum fps

Overall average framerate: 60.8 fps
Quite a huge difference, basically this is a CPU hungry game, too bad its not multi-threaded.... however a 2core+ cpu will help as the nvidia/ati drivers are multi-threaded and will use more of the unloaded core....

Yapa
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iriyak
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Post by iriyak »

My platform is ThinkPad T42p with 2GB memory which doesn't seem to meet the minimum requirements for X3:TC Instruction Manual, but tried the rolling demo anyway. Here is the result. All parameters are set disabled or minimum though T42p has 1600x1200 at the max resolution. Hmm, probably it's time to get new one.

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   X3 - Terran Conflict
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Game Version: 1.2.0.0

Operating System:	Windows XP Professional (5.1, Build 2600) Service Pack 3 (2600.xpsp_sp3_gdr.080814-1236)
DirectX Version:	DirectX 9.0c (4.09.0000.0904)
Graphics Card Info:	ATI MOBILITY FIRE GL T2 [128 MB]    Driver: 6.14.0010.6547
CPU Info:		Intel(R) Pentium(R) M processor 2.10GHz
Usable System Memory:	2046 MB


Video Settings During Benchmark:
	Screen Resolution:	1024 x 768 * [32], fullscreen
	Using Shader Profile:	1.1
	Antialias Mode:		NONE
	Anisotropic Mode:	NONE

Graphics & Shader Settings:
	Texture Quality:	low
	Shader Quality:		low
	High Quality Bumpmaps:	disabled
	Environment Mapping:	disabled
	Glow Filter:		disabled
	Ship Color Variations:	disabled
	More Dynamic Lights:	disabled
	Used Vertexsize:	40 bytes

Framerates
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  Scene "Trade"	 20.9 average fps	 6.0 minimum fps	 43.0 maximum fps
  Scene "Fight"	 31.6 average fps	 14.0 minimum fps	 71.0 maximum fps
  Scene "Build"	 19.8 average fps	 9.0 minimum fps	 37.0 maximum fps
  Scene "Think"	 7.7 average fps	 4.0 minimum fps	 15.0 maximum fps

Overall average framerate: 20.0 fps


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iriyak
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Post by iriyak »

exogenesis wrote:iriyak, cheers, parsing this thread would be great, but I think there's too many difficulties with that.
Yes, you're right. So I manually collected out of this thread and put into Awk. 8)

Guys, the below is yet another collection of xperf data file submitted in this thread. The data is the same as in xperf data file, just put into Microsoft Excel. It is aimed for those who want to have the original one in this format. Otherwise exogenesis's one is highly recommended for further drilling down as 1. a value from GPU 3DMark06, 2. a value from CPU PCMark05 and 3. a working CPU's clock speed are taken into account. As someone mentioned, xperf data doesn't seem to include No.3.
  • Microsoft Excel Book file (xls)
    Tab Separated Value file (txt)
    A definition of each column (txt)
Edit: (Sat, 3. Jan 09, 00:10 ) Currently 178 entries submitted in this thread are recorded.

Hope this helps.

PS craigr1982 kindly provided the updated version of xperf.xls! Thx, craigr1982! :D
Last edited by iriyak on Fri, 2. Jan 09, 16:11, edited 6 times in total.
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