patch - *updates from BurnIt!*

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yrkoon99
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Post by yrkoon99 »

kool thats a class respsonce my main issue is ctd and then some performance issues in ore belt ect :P

btw my comp is

2800 sempron 333 fsb @ 2.ghz stock
xpertvision geforce 5900 xt stock 128mb 390/700
over clocked and under clocked memory eg

2 256 sticks of twinmoss ddr266 running at ddr 333 speeds and a 512 stick of kingston value ram 512 mb ddr 400 mem running at ddr 333 speeds all the mem has tight timings in my bios.

i have a creatve audigy 1 pci card and ac97 on board disabled in bios also my install of windows xp sp2 was a week fresh when i bought x3

main board is a gigabyte ga-7vaxp

i get ctds on that system i also have 3 hardrives an a dvd reader and a dvd writer.

all my other games work stable with this rig and give me the best fps i could hope for with a geforce 5.

my ctd's happen when im loading and i had one at end of a mission the one where ur flyong around in a station shooting escape pods that mission was anoying then to have my game ctd right after that bit was taking the piss :P

please take as long as is required to fix the ctd issue perhaps you can replicate it on a system with my specs?

cmon fix it please i get 30-60fps on quake 4 with all graphics maxed on 1024 res and no crashes :P
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Post by alphalvr »

thanks, cuz the sayin `no news is good news` was wearing a bit thin :D
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Post by yrkoon99 »

maybe if all the guys with ctd posted sytem specs like in my last post they could try same spec machines in their testing an probly replicate the crash :)
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Post by alphalvr »

yrkoon99 wrote:maybe if all the guys with ctd posted sytem specs like in my last post they could try same spec machines in their testing an probly replicate the crash :)
i think your on the wrong thread mate.
head over to rech support and check the beta patch thread (at the top) if you thinj you can help.
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Post by Chestnut Stallion »

Thanks for the help! Great post.. good to know this!

Thank you! <3
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Post by layton99 »

Thanks BurnIt that was the answer we were looking for.
Layton

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Post by punchbag »

Woah thanks for clearing that all up Burnit. Much appreciated :)
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Post by yrkoon99 »

with all due respect im drunk but if ego soft post about a update surely it makes sense to say system specs ect in the same topic when ctds are concerned if a ego soft guy posted theres more chance of one posting and reading after seeing system specs and replicating the ctd bug in a thread ones already posted in :)

they are looking to narrow down the ctd's so post system specs for em to try out :)
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Post by Tetragramaton »

Yes thank you for the reply. Least we now know that someone listening.
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Post by scratch42069 »

I just wanted to say thanks for the update on how 1.4 is progressing. It's a shame you guys hit a bit of a wall with fixing some CTDs but savegame compatability is cool!!!! Hopefully you guys get that remaining CTD issue sorted out soon since I've been getting CTDs since 1.2.3.
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Post by Dungeoncrawler »

Hmm...never once thought anyone was playing favorites. My personal opinion is that it makes no difference to me which forum (English/German...lol, I was going to put American/German) gets info first, as long as the patch is released in English first ( :P just kidding). Seriously, everyone needs to chill I think :D . Patiently awaiting the release of 1.4. Until then, BFME 2 will keep me company.

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Post by Penfold153 »

i wont the patch too(PSG slow down is annoying) but i would rather wait till its ready and works.

but before EGOSOFT try to sell us a expansion they should give us an free downloadable expansion not a huge one we would normally pay for but a small or medium sized one with a little side plot missions some new ships and stations to repay us all for the trouble we have had.

i think that would make everyone happy

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Post by Dungeoncrawler »

Well, if my memory serves, usually when we get a patch, Ego slips in some additional content as a added bonus. Not always something 'huge', but something that is a surprise. Whatever is released, I am sure it will be good. But, I hope people are not getting their hopes up too high. It will not fix everything, and may even create a few new things/problems, and maybe not.

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Post by Sixhitter »

I'm trying to cover most of the issues mentioned in this thread, so this reply might get a little longer...

There's no special treatment for anyone here, believe me. As has been mentioned here, my statements in the German forum unfortunately do not provide much more information than what is already known - which is that we are still working on 1.4 and will release it, once we are done which will hopefully not take too long.
It's not always easy to synchronize all the forums on every post made by a developer - especially if one has got a lot of work to do, so please forgive us if we concentrate on that for official announcements.
(a while back we had a huge complaint-thread in the German forum because something was posted on the English forum first and there was no immediate translation for it, the feeling that there's a special treatment for "the others" seems to be mutual)
Ok thx, I was just feeling a bit unloved with no info on this forum but I accept its prolly as hard to balance the posts as it is to balance the ecomony.

We are still fighting a remaining CTD issue which has to be fixed before the patch can be made public - I am sure you will agree, that releasing a patch that is meant to resolve the majority of technical problems but still has a known crash issue is simply not acceptable.
I agree but the info about it is welcome. Thankyou
(it's been brought up in the German forum already so I'll mention it right away: yes, the game itself was released with known problems, but the "good" thing about patches is that this time we are actually able to take the time we need to make this one right instead of having to stick to a fixed schedule)

It is true that I made an earlier statement which indicated the patch would be finished almost two weeks ago - obviously I was wrong (I did mention that possibility in that statement though)
I see as your estimate altho wrong of a release date for the patch as an honest forcast as it stood then. The fact it did not happen due to a then unknown problem and was delayed further is cudos to you and Ego and I would hope that the majority would have understood and accepted it.

I would also encourage you to not shy away from this sort of info as long as you make sure you say its an estimate I see it as better than no info at all. I for one would have thanked you for the info.

That's the reason we are so damn careful about releasing any dates - we are trying to fix things and somehow, something new comes up each time we thought we were done. That simply cannot be forseen and we are only left with two choices: ignore it (not exactly the best choice for critical issues like crashes) or delay the release and keep working (which is what we are doing).
A few lines like that would really help quell the feeling that no info gives people on this forum and in my opinion would have limited many of the rant posts the mods have to deal with.
Regarding savegame compatibility:
yes, so far all (non-corrupt) savegames from any official version as well as the two public BETA versions 1.3.1 and 1.3.2 are in fact compatible with what is to become patch 1.4. There is currently no reason to believe that this will change until the official release of said patch. If I'd have to give a number I'd say there's an 98% chance of your saves being compatible. I'm sorry that I have to leave these two percent open but I certainly do not want to be the one who gets shot for stating otherwise in case the unthinkable happens
Now those of us that have been unsure wether to install the Beta patch can make a judgement of the risk we face if we go ahead and for this piece of info thank you very very much.
I hope that clears up some questions
Yes thank you again. I will ask one further thing of you. Now you have started to give a little info maybe you could visit us say once a week with a little update even if its just 'Hello I'm here again the patch isnt'
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I would also encourage you to not shy away from this sort of info as long as you make sure you say its an estimate I see it as better than no info at all. I for one would have thanked you for the info.
As he said, he's very reluctant simply because people read it as a firm date, regardless of if he's put "ESTIMATE!!! THIS IS AN ESTIMATE!!!" on every paragraph.
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Post by alphalvr »

tbh i dunno what your all happy about.....wait months with not a word......then when you think its absolutely imminent, any day now, you read a post that basically says...were still working on it.

all that tells me is it aint coming out any time soon (hope im wrong) cuz if it was there would be no need to post :D

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Post by Sapper_Astro »

I have no idea why Space game companies don't band together and create their own publishing house like Wargames have with Matrix games and Battlefront.

Paul Neurath, Ala 'Space Rogue' (C'mon old timers, don't let me down here), was the pioneer of the real Space sime (With on planet/Station RPG as well i might add) when it was released in 1989. I emailed him a few weeks back wondering if he ever thought of remaking a Space/RPG game again and his response, while certainly friendly and wistful, was to the attitude that Space sims are a niche market and therefore 'not safe' for many publishers....Wargames fell into the same catagory.

Did Wargamers lie down and die? I think not. Thats why they market their own games and do distribution that way. It has been going from strength to strength ever since. From direct online downloads to mailing to actual gameshop distribution (all three are now the way they do things, themselves).

Perhaps the various 'serious' space creators could do the same thing, it would allow them to create as they wished and take their sweet time getting it right without big brother getting in the way.

Just a thought.

PS: keep working hard boys, get it right.
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Post by Sixhitter »


I would also encourage you to not shy away from this sort of info as long as you make sure you say its an estimate I see it as better than no info at all. I for one would have thanked you for the info.

As he said, he's very reluctant simply because people read it as a firm date, regardless of if he's put "ESTIMATE!!! THIS IS AN ESTIMATE!!!" on every paragraph.
I understand what he and you say about being reluctant but if this sort of info was more forthcoming it would be better accepted by the majaority, in my opinion of course.

To those that choose to ignore the date as stated to be an estimate then the name whinger would be acceptable.

Being called a whinger when asking for info that is not forth coming is not and I repeat, an honestly reported date/info even if not reached for good reason is better than no info at all and should be applauded not slammed.

Most responses to Burnit's post have been positive so I feel confident that asking for info like this to be more forthcoming is benificial not negative.

It also may make the Mods of this forum a little less defensive and allow them to get some enjoyment out of what must be a frustrating time.

Hey! and who knows, now we know the problems holding up the release of 1.4 maybe the posters here could concentrate on helping Ego solve the problem.
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Post by esd »

Calling people "whingers" isn't on, in any scenario. It's against the rules.
It also may make the Mods of this forum a little less defensive
It's more likely to cause us more work, as we'd be dealing with very annoyed people who are sure they were promised a patch on day xxx,yyy,zzz.
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Post by Sixhitter »

Well lets just try an experiment. You tried no info, its failed as I read many posts now from people making you deal with 'very annoyed people who are sure they have no idea of the state of 1.4'

How about trying some info for a week and see who is right.

Lets see if the majority of X fans are spoiled cretins that can not handle the truth, or commited game players albeit frustrated that are able to wait/help once information is forthcoming.

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