Trump Presidency

[clakclak]

Well it seems as if national conflict inside America may be pushed to the foreground again. The situation after the shooting of the person in Minneapolis by ICE seems to get heated quite quickly. I am seeing scenes that are pretty unusual for America, with at least one video showing a group of around 100 protesters actively engaging ICE with snowballs and pushing them back. For now it is just snowballs, but there are some throws in there so precisely aimed at the faces with so much speed that I think someone in the crowd probably played baseball. Also Waltz has put the national guard on alert and if I am reading this correctly it does not sound like their mission would be to put down the protests but to force ICE out of the state? It is worded very defensively.You can read about it here.

[Chips]

Edited this significantly as it was long. Nope, still long. God damn it.

2) To send troops means NATO is already dead.

Where is your evidence to back this up, the only places I have seen say this are scaremongers and fake news websites, there is absolutely no evidence that NATO would end if America was no longer a member of it, just another sensationalism comment with no actual materialism behind it.

Bit riled up I see. Oh dear. The inference was perhaps a bit much I admit, so I'll break it down.
Firstly, this is opinion, as evidenced by the "a few things to consider" and the opinion is inferred from actions - no links as there's no outcome to link to.

I know, subtle difference from when presenting sourced information of something that's happened, or someone's informed opinion on what something means or may happen. I'm not trying to tell people what *is*.

The inference is that if multiple NATO countries are deploying troops to Greenland to defend against a potential invasion by another NATO member - the implication is that trust is gone; America is going to use force against an ally. America will invade. If all this is serious, then yes, I think NATO is toast.

I'll explain why I make that statement - but first... from your post about fake news and trying to panic or whatever you said.

NATO would end if America was no longer a member of it

But that's not what I said. If you're going to be indignant, do it over what is actually said. You may have read that direct quote elsewhere, but I haven't. I don't know what fear mongering fake news you read (though obviously a fair amount), but perhaps you refer to this?

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/ ... eenland-pm

That if America uses force then NATO is finished? That's a quote from the Danish PM. If that's what you refer to about fake news then, each to their own.

So lets break down the quote of my post; point 2. Why would deploying troops mean end of NATO in the event America is serious about using force?

The only reason to put troops there is that they are to fight if the US turns up. Will they? Stephen Miller doesn't seem to think so:
https://edition.cnn.com/2026/01/05/poli ... ela-digvid

"Nobody's going to fight the United States militarily over the future of Greenland".

If that's true (in their eyes) then they can go full Crimea Russia even if troops are there. "Not a shot fired" (so to speak) as a superior force annexed an inferior one's territory.
https://www.politico.com/story/2014/03/ ... ine-104130

So from the Danish PM - if America uses force, NATO is over (their quote). If we're to send soldiers there, that means if America uses force, the soldiers have to fight otherwise they're pointless. The Americans don't believe anyone will fight over Greenland, therefore putting troops isn't a deterrent really; they'd call the bluff *IF* seriously going to use force.

I don't think there's any real chance of it happening. The US is heavily integrated with intelligence and military bases around Europe, early missile warnings, anti ballistic missile systems and more. Additionally, allies supply them with access to bases around the world - would they really be willing to risk all of that? Well, Trump doesn't view Russia as a threat (which kind of undermines Greenland requirement for security!). Do I need to give you a link? It's the recently published National Strategy I posted a link to a few pages back.

BUT - if we were to shift troops to Greenland, then we are absolutely saying we do NOT trust America at all and we are sure they WILL attack an alliance member. Is that an alliance? Sounds insane to me.

Hope that clears things up? At the end of the day, it's just an opinion which was bourne from... I guess a bad form of deductive reasoning? It wouldn't stand up to proper logical checks Some sources from which info / opinion is gleaned that fed into my process now provided along with explanations. People can hopefully understand where I'm forming it from, and absolutely dismiss it, ridicule it, question it, ignore it, whatever they like.

This whole scenario I believe is an attempt to "strengthen" a negotiating hand; i.e. to buy... or more likely, to try and influence Greenlanders into independence vote and then become US protectorate or something like that. Source for that?
https://www.politico.eu/article/donald- ... -military/

or perhaps strong arming for yet more access?
https://www.chathamhouse.org/2026/01/us ... t-helpless

I don't think it's about defence really though; they already said (National Security Strategy) that the US doesn't view Russia as a threat.

[fiksal]

one thing I notice in the discussion above, do you think Trump cares? He has been saying a few times he didn't, and there was one point awhile back when he said NATO will help US take over Greenland.

Rubio's message to Denmark is, that US will take Greenland, with military if necessary, but Denmark can negotiate and avoid US using military. He's gonna meet in Denmark about this soon.

Trump thinks he can do anything he wants and everyone will cave in and follow. Pretty much how things play out in US and out so far. From child abductions, to ICE, to Venezuela. Every example only confirmed this. And he is delusional but is not wrong...

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smaller Trump related news seems to unfold around some concerts

https://www.npr.org/2026/01/07/nx-s1-56 ... ter-cancel

In a post published to social media Tuesday evening, Fleck wrote: "I have withdrawn from my upcoming performance with the NSO at The Kennedy Center. Performing there has become charged and political, at an institution where the focus should be on the music. I look forward to playing with the NSO another time in the future when we can together share and celebrate art."

Tuesday evening, however, the center's president, Richard Grenell, wrote on X: "You just made it political and caved to the woke mob who wants you to perform for only Lefties. This mob pressuring you will never be happy until you only play for Democrats. The Trump Kennedy Center believes all people are welcome — Democrats and Republicans and people uninterested in politics. We want performers who aren't political — who simply love entertaining everyone regardless of who they voted for."

do "they" know how they sound? or they are so far down the right wing slang and are in a constant automatic attack mode, it's all they know? This guy has a title of a president. Something about a circus, clowns and apples and trees?

so let's be on a look out for a civil rights mob, with MLK in charge surely, and a political party named Lefties that works for Democratic party in US

[chew-ie]

[..] engaging ICE with snowballs [..]

This is so awesome!

[fiksal]

I just read Tim Walz's statement above. Good on him

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https://www.cbc.ca/news/world/minneapol ... -9.7037885

hard to read this stuff. This is America that is great again.

[Usenko]

I'm honestly finding it difficult to contain my rage against the entire American government at the moment, and the shooting of Ms Good yesterday did nothing to improve the situation.

[clakclak]

I'm honestly finding it difficult to contain my rage against the entire American government at the moment, and the shooting of Ms Good yesterday did nothing to improve the situation.

I am afraid I have bad news. J.D. Vance just said that the ICE shooter has "absolute immunity". I am neither a lawyer nor American, maybe someone can explain the legal concept of "absolute immunity" to me, but going by the sound I assume he will not face any consequences?

Source: https://www.newsweek.com/jd-vance-minne ... a-11331877

[matthewfarmery]

The ICE shooter will NOT have immunity. Vance isn't a lawyer, and has no clue what he talking about.

The only person who has immunity is Trump. Those ICE agents are just BS and Trump's secret police. But it was only a matter of time, when things get violent.

[matthewfarmery]

Seems the senate has passed a bill to restrict Trump from taking farther action against Venezuela. 52 VS 47, without congress approval) But to think that 47 senators approve of war, is just sickening. Trump says he will veto it. But that can be overridden as well. Trump claims he can strike any country he wants. As he has absolute power.

He not going down without a fight. But the GOP still protect him and those who enable him. Thjey are willing to see the world go up in flames rather then put this tyrant where he belongs.

I have a bad feeling, WW3 is around the corner.

[clakclak]

It's enough to cheat the Danish government, for example by Trump offering each of Greenlands 60,000 inhabitants $1.000.000 and U.S. citizenship. $ 60.000.000.000 is nothing.
Would you take it?

It turns out this may actually be what America plans to do...just that they are much cheaper than you assumed and are only willing to pay between $10.000 and $100.000 per person.

[chew-ie]

Even $ 60.000.000.000 for the last untouched resources on earth is a laughable offer at best. Once every country have picked all their low hanging resources Greenland will have it's time. It would be eternally stupid to sell. Guess the US thinks that something like Alaska will work more then once.

[EGO_Aut]

Even $ 60.000.000.000 for the last untouched resources on earth is a laughable offer at best. Once every country have picked all their low hanging resources Greenland will have it's time. It would be eternally stupid to sell. Guess the US thinks that something like Alaska will work more then once.

Yes, it's truly ridiculous. Elon Musk supposedly owns over 700 billion(US), so he could buy Greenland 11.6 times over.

Or 116 times if he pays only Trumps highest bid

[matthewfarmery]

So Iran has started to shoot protesters, And Trump has said, if Iran did that, that America is locked and loaded to go and protect the protesters. But what that means is unclear. Boots on the ground? air strikes??? And he also said he going to start bombing Mexico's drug cartels.

The Trump is insane. And this kind of action could easy trigger WW3. I did say a bit ago, that WW3 is very likely under Trump, even if some didn't believe me. But here we are in 2026 with a mentally insane president with nuclear codes and ready to start wars.

As for the world cup, that should be boycotted and FIFA should be shut down. There is no way that the games can continue with this madness unchecked.

Edit

OK, get this, the woman who got the Nobel peace prize, has been sworn in as a new leader of Venezuela. Trump wants to greet her at his home. BUT with strings attached. He wants her to give him the Nobel peace prize!!!???????

Seriously, this man is a total embrasment and a lowlife. And considering what he planning to do, no way should he EVER get another peace prize. So he still butt hurt not being giving it, and wants someone else’s?

Edit 2

also the Greenland threat is increasing real. Trump saying, he will act on Greenland whether they like it or not/ So unless he is stopped, he going to start multiple wars.

Edit 3

New footage from the ICE agent shooting the woman. From what I seen of the video, the woman posed no threat to the agent. I think what the agent did was just plain and simple murder. Also the agent has been named.

[fiksal]

again I repeat, citizens of Northern and coastal States, should think really hard if they want to continue to be a part of all this. Don't be like Russians

[Vertigo 7]

again I repeat, citizens of Northern and coastal States, should think really hard if they want to continue to be a part of all this. Don't be like Russians

I see what you're suggesting and I don't agree with it. This was our home and its being taken over by f'n Nazis. I say screw that. We should "fight like hell" and kick the fascists out and their supporters.

[fiksal]

I like your option too if it works.

[Observe]

OK, get this, the woman who got the Nobel peace prize, has been sworn in as a new leader of Venezuela.

Link please. Unless I missed something, Maria Corina Machado is not the new leader.

[matthewfarmery]

my mistake, I thought it was. Delcy Rodríguez has been sworn in as the new leader.

[Skism]

I'm honestly finding it difficult to contain my rage against the entire American government at the moment, and the shooting of Ms Good yesterday did nothing to improve the situation.

https://shipwreckedcrew.substack.com/p/ ... close-call

I’m sorry but I think we must be looking at two different events - he had justification as far as I am concerned now I will not say that is unqualified but more later

[fiksal]

justification given to allow ICE have more power than any police should have

I am personally of the opinion a shooting by police should be punished harder than a shooting by a civilian, simply because police holds power over civilians which is not all that checked. This must be treated as a big deal.

a better law would be to allow us to detain, strip citizenship and deport ICE officers.

then we'll have the new justification.