nVidia 40 and 50 series GPU owners, how's Frame Generation?

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Re: nVidia 40 and 50 series GPU owners, how's Frame Generation?

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Only 60fps cap and Frame Gen x2, so you are only getting 30 fps real frames, and 30 for Frame Gen.
At that cap you would be better at frame gen x1 .. Which is kind of limiting the power you have available to use with your shiny new 5070Ti
Try 120 fps cap, and Frame gen x2, or even
180 fps cap and Frame Gen x3
Unleash the beast :)

Remember when we were beta testing the addition of Frame Generation, I also tried 60 fps cap, and x2 or above frame gen was not very good, until I realised I needed more headroom for Frame Gen to spread its wings.
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Re: nVidia 40 and 50 series GPU owners, how's Frame Generation?

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alt3rn1ty wrote: Mon, 1. Dec 25, 21:07 Only 60fps cap and Frame Gen x2, so you are only getting 30 fps real frames, and 30 for Frame Gen.
At that cap you would be better at frame gen x1 .. Which is kind of limiting the power you have available to use with your shiny new 5070Ti
Try 120 fps cap, and Frame gen x2, or even
180 fps cap and Frame Gen x3
Unleash the beast :)

Remember when we were beta testing the addition of Frame Generation, I also tried 60 fps cap, and x2 or above frame gen was not very good, until I realised I needed more headroom for Frame Gen to spread its wings.
Yeah, that's right... it can't "top-up" frames so to speak, that'd really mess with input if it could. I did do some testing with a 120fps limit set in the game, and it's better. Both 3x and 4x give nice results. However, it's only a better experience when watching a battle. Walking around a ship isn't the best experience. I'll tinker some more. PC current in bits again as water block due to arrive soon.

Oh, I did tinker with settings the frame rate limit to 280 - which was the max value it allowed before going unlimited - I then sat at my G-Sync monitor's set 120fps (it goes higher, but 120hz is the highest you can go and keep HDR on. HDR is nice).

More tinkering to be done, but I've got block fitment and leak testing first... hurry up Mr. Postman.

As an aside: The 5070Ti is quite a nice card. It's doing almost exactly double the fps vs. the 3070 in the various 3DMark (free) tests. It's also managing that inexplicable, but real, "thing" that is the "feels better" thing. I.e. I have games I've set to 60fps. 3070 managed 60fps just fine. 5070Ti obviously does 60fps just fine, but feels nice doing it. Wasn't really wanting to get a new GPU just yet, 3070 was still doing great, but market pressure got me lol.

I hope nVidia continue to refine frame Generation and not improve it and go "60 series only". It has it's place, but give me real frames every time where possible.
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Re: nVidia 40 and 50 series GPU owners, how's Frame Generation?

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Little update:

Block arrived, fitted, spent some time leak testing - all good. Obviously it's no good spending ages leak testing if I've broken the GPU in the process. So, PC powered up. All good. Phew.

Running some tests using Time Spy... Core temp staying comfortably under 50c, memory comfortably under 40c - those are MAX temps during the run.

Core clocks regularly hitting 3,200Mhz with my prior OC applied, but it's of course near silent while doing so. Paranoid me still watching closely for leaks.

Stripping down the GPU, removing the air cooler was really straight-forward. Fitting the block was also straight-foward. However, due to very slight spacing differences with the new block and GPU - vs. the 3070 - I had to change the plumbing a bit more than expected. Fit a slightly longer pipe between CPU and GPU blocks, then shorten the pipe from the GPU. It goes GPU, 90 degree, short pipe, 90 degree and then out of case. It's the short pipe that needed to be shorter due to slightly different block spacing.

Once I've done with these tests, I'll power down the PC, disconnect it, and continue doing just leak testing. My water loop is a giant 1080 (360x360) external RAD, fans and pump assembly, powered by a separate external PSU (like a laptop brick). So, it's easy to turn off the PC while having the pump running if I want.
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Re: nVidia 40 and 50 series GPU owners, how's Frame Generation?

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:D Sounds like good progress. Wish I could water cool my laptop.
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Re: nVidia 40 and 50 series GPU owners, how's Frame Generation?

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alt3rn1ty wrote: Tue, 2. Dec 25, 22:08 :D Sounds like good progress. Wish I could water cool my laptop.
Yeah, I'm quite pleased with how things have gone. No signs of leaks thus far. The "big" test was allowing the loop to go through full warming / cooling cycles, as that can sometimes be the thing that causes leaks if initial cold tests passed fine. Side of case still off, and I'm still checking closely - tissue paper underneath both CPU and GPU blocks - for any signs of leaks.

Re: Your laptop, you can water cool it... once... :) Not advised!

Some years back, I actually bought myself a little laptop stand. It's basically a metal mesh, with fans on the underside. So, passively, it allows for pretty decent air flow right away, but I can turn the fans on (three speed settings) for some active cooling. Use to work really well when I'd take the laptop for LAN gaming sessions - we used to play Forged Alliance. Stand took power via USB. I initially bought it for a vary hot-running AMD laptop I had... really, that thing got crazy hot.

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