Steam Cloud and Save game sync

[mindscout]

Hello everyone,

I have some issues with the steham cloud and synchronization of savegames with X4.
I want to play X4 on PC and on Steam Deck, but I have different savegames for both, like there were two different games.
Both devices say, cloud sync were succesfull, but I cannot play savey from Steam Deck on PC and saves from PC on Steam Deck.

So I copied the Saves from PC to USB-Stick and copied this files on my Steam Deck, overwriting the existing files there.
But after starting X4 on Steam Deck, I only had the original save games, which were overwritten by the USB-files.

So maybe there is an issue with cloud synchronization between Linux and Windows, were the game makes two different sets of Savegames, one for each platform?

How can I solve this, were are the "right" savegames located on each platform and are they compatible?
Is it possible to fix this issue?

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I play X4 with Split and Terran DLC in its up-to-date-Version. I do not use any mods or scripts.
The issue occurs with adventure start or even in tutorial (nothing else testet).
I testet deactivation and reactivation of cloud sync, without success.

[Alan Phipps]

It sounds as though you need different Steam Accounts for the two different platforms. The saves etc are stored in a path that includes the unique Steam Account ID.

[mindscout]

No, its the same account. I only have that one and I only have one Version of X4.

Does anyone use the same scenarion (PC + Steam Deck) with successfully save save sync?

[CBJ]

So maybe there is an issue with cloud synchronization between Linux and Windows, were the game makes two different sets of Savegames, one for each platform?

There is indeed such an issue, and it relates to the fact that Linux filenames are case-sensitive, while Windows are not. At some point in the distant past, the folder name under Linux was given a name that differed from the Windows name only by the case of one letter. Unfortunately the Steam cloud sync doesn't handle this situation as we'd want it to, and now we're in the position that we cannot change folder name without inconveniencing a large number of players by losing their cloud synced files. As a result, the rather smaller number of people who want to sync between the two platforms will have to work around this limitation.

[mindscout]

Ok thanks for the information, these are bad news.

Are there any plans to solve this issue in the future, f.e. by asking users in the menu about this correction, so that we can save our files local abd restore our savegames after the changes back to a working system?

[mindscout]

Ich muss nochmal kurz einhaken. Bin dabei eine eigene Übergangslösung zu finden, aber ich finde nicht mal die Savegames auf dem Steamdeck.

Heißen die Dateien dort auch anders? Unter welchem Pfad kann ich die Savegames finden, damit ich sie manuell synchronisiseren kann?


Danke und viele Grüße

PS: X4 läuft super auf dem Steamdeck, abgesehen vom sync-Problem.

[Ketraar]

aber ich finde nicht mal die Savegames auf dem Steamdeck.

~/.config/EgoSoft
(.config ist ein hidden folder)

Hoffe das hilft.

MFG

Ketraar

[mindscout]

Ja, vielen Dank! Nun kann ich zumindest mit USB die Spielstände austauschen.

Getestet, funktioniert!

[-=SiR KiLLaLoT=-]

Hello friends

I was hit with a strange steam cloud issue.

A few days ago I resumed my last game, removing all the saves used for various tests from the save folder and re-downloading the cloud saves from steam.
So far, so good...

I played the game for a couple of days, generating new saves until overwriting all but the last one.
At the end of each session, the saves have always been correctly reloaded on cloud steam.
After that I continued for another day generating other saves until tonight's session.

I start X4, I go to the load game section and I notice that part of these new saves are missing except the last one updated at 1:20 AM on day 15.
There are only two other new saves besides this among those generated during these days, the rest are gone lost

It seems that the cloud has automatically resumed the saves of about 10 hours before without my having changed any options on steam
and yet I paid particular attention to the completion of the uploads after the various sessions, especially when I had generated several saves.

The only peculiarity to point out is that in the "old cloud" there was a save renamed to "____ autosave_03.xml.gz" and tonight I found it among the last saves downloaded
bat that should no longer have been present for several sessions before.

What exactly happened in your opinion?

[Jar B]

So maybe there is an issue with cloud synchronization between Linux and Windows, were the game makes two different sets of Savegames, one for each platform?

There is indeed such an issue, and it relates to the fact that Linux filenames are case-sensitive, while Windows are not. At some point in the distant past, the folder name under Linux was given a name that differed from the Windows name only by the case of one letter. Unfortunately the Steam cloud sync doesn't handle this situation as we'd want it to, and now we're in the position that we cannot change folder name without inconveniencing a large number of players by losing their cloud synced files. As a result, the rather smaller number of people who want to sync between the two platforms will have to work around this limitation.

So what's your suggestion how we can bypass the issue? Would a symlink do the trick?

If that is the case the solution on linux might be a symbolic link with the windows folder names. This would hopefully let steam cloud sync view the correct folder.
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What name should the link have? I don't know anything about Steam's Cloud sync to answer this question myself.

[Imperial Good]

What name should the link have? I don't know anything about Steam's Cloud sync to answer this question myself.

On Windows, the path to the save game folder is ...

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\Documents\Egosoft\X4\{Steam ID}\save

Windows is case insensitive when processing this, but Linux might not be.

I cannot provide more help beyond that as I have not personally used the Linux version of X4.

[OOZ662]

I wish there was a "no bump" posting option since I hate necro-ing, but this is the thread that anyone searching this issue will find.

The Windows game client stores its saves and config files in: \My Documents\Egosoft\X4\*
While the Linux client uses: .config/EgoSoft/X4/*

Unfortunately creating a symlink between .config/EgoSoft/ and .config/Egosoft/ doesn't help. I also notice that if you visit the Steam Cloud web interface to view your stored files, the Windows and Linux files are completely differentiated by their "folder." While I'm not an expert in this field, that leads me to believe the files would be stored separately even without the case sensitivity issue present and there is no user-side fix for this besides carrying your saves around on a flash drive or manually transferring them between network locations. I hope someone who is an expert and has found a workaround will eventually come around.

https://i.imgur.com/kod1DDw.png