[#3507][7.50][Linux][LAG] Perfomances issue after playing for a set amount of time

[xrogaan]

Hello there.

I noticed an increase in frame time after playing for a while. Especially when walking around, however just moving my mouse cursor would noticeably increase frame time generation. It leads to stutters, which makes playing the game relatively challenging. I'm not quite sure how the reproduce the issue, other than playing normally. The last game session, I telerported around a bit, then went into a gladius to fight some Xenon in Getsu Fune.

Save (unmodded, budgeted): https://drive.proton.me/urls/F9QQKQWHKG#STaFNfFUYkcD
Screenshot: https://i.imgur.com/iEvng8g.png -- the spikes in the graph happens when I walk, it becomes minimal when I release the forward key.
vulkaninfo: https://gist.github.com/xrogaan/43c2fca ... 9d589d46a9

Edit: The original save file was an old file from a while ago. I updated the link with a recent save, that went through the 7.1 -> 7.5 update process.

[xrogaan]

I generated a trace following https://github.com/mikesart/gpuvis/wiki/trace-cmd. It can be visualized using gpuvis. Maybe it'll help.
The trace: https://drive.proton.me/urls/T74305AJ48#ilZ8OOwPWD8a

[xAix1999]

i recently bought x4 during christmas and a bunch of dlc's. i am also playing on linux with steam-native (using system libraries instead of provided steam libs) and i am also having this issue. moving the mouse or moving my character will cause lag that drops my 60 fps down to 3-4.

i have tried to change just about anything from the display and graphics menu to the config file, in search of some type of answer. fun game if you are accepting of a laggy empire trading and building type of game, but if i want to do any flying or dogfights i need to restart the game about every 45 minutes if there is any type of combat.

the only resolution i have found is to use the accessibility option of slowing down the game to 25% during space combat, otherwise the pirate situation leads to an unplayable experience. the slow down is not bad but seems like cheating. flying and doing trades with autopilot or an ai captain has no performance issues as long as i don't move my mouse or move my character.

switching to the normal steam runtime cleared up some lag but it's still present.

[xrogaan]

i recently bought x4 during christmas and a bunch of dlc's. i am also playing on linux with steam-native (using system libraries instead of provided steam libs) and i am also having this issue. moving the mouse or moving my character will cause lag that drops my 60 fps down to 3-4.

i have tried to change just about anything from the display and graphics menu to the config file, in search of some type of answer. fun game if you are accepting of a laggy empire trading and building type of game, but if i want to do any flying or dogfights i need to restart the game about every 45 minutes if there is any type of combat.

the only resolution i have found is to use the accessibility option of slowing down the game to 25% during space combat, otherwise the pirate situation leads to an unplayable experience. the slow down is not bad but seems like cheating. flying and doing trades with autopilot or an ai captain has no performance issues as long as i don't move my mouse or move my character.

switching to the normal steam runtime cleared up some lag but it's still present.

You need to give more information. Your issue might be entirely different than my own

[xAix1999]

I'm fairly certain it's the same issue of piloting a ship and moving the mouse increases the frame time and pressing the forward key in a station also increases the frame time.

the command steam vs steam-native provides a reduction in the problem. steam is keeping my fps around 34-36 but steam-native will drop to 3 fps.

i have a 5800x3d with a rx 6800 with 32gb of RAM. my os is arch Linux. I'm assuming i shouldn't have any issues, but i am.

English 7.5 current steam version
unmodded
smugglers Paradise
frame time increases / fps drop while moving the mouse - walking in station
steam-native
some of the vulkaninfo was chopped off due to character length limits

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driverInfo = 2024.Q4.3 (LLPC)
conformanceVersion:
major = 1
minor = 4
subminor = 0
patch = 1
denormBehaviorIndependence = SHADER_FLOAT_CONTROLS_INDEPENDENCE_32_BIT_ONLY
roundingModeIndependence = SHADER_FLOAT_CONTROLS_INDEPENDENCE_32_BIT_ONLY
shaderSignedZeroInfNanPreserveFloat16 = true
shaderSignedZeroInfNanPreserveFloat32 = true
shaderSignedZeroInfNanPreserveFloat64 = true
shaderDenormPreserveFloat16 = true
shaderDenormPreserveFloat32 = true
shaderDenormPreserveFloat64 = true
shaderDenormFlushToZeroFloat16 = true
shaderDenormFlushToZeroFloat32 = true
shaderDenormFlushToZeroFloat64 = true
shaderRoundingModeRTEFloat16 = true
shaderRoundingModeRTEFloat32 = true
shaderRoundingModeRTEFloat64 = true
shaderRoundingModeRTZFloat16 = true
shaderRoundingModeRTZFloat32 = true
shaderRoundingModeRTZFloat64 = true
maxUpdateAfterBindDescriptorsInAllPools = 4294967295
shaderUniformBufferArrayNonUniformIndexingNative = false
shaderSampledImageArrayNonUniformIndexingNative = false
shaderStorageBufferArrayNonUniformIndexingNative = false
shaderStorageImageArrayNonUniformIndexingNative = false
shaderInputAttachmentArrayNonUniformIndexingNative = false
robustBufferAccessUpdateAfterBind = true
quadDivergentImplicitLod = false
maxPerStageDescriptorUpdateAfterBindSamplers = 4294967295
maxPerStageDescriptorUpdateAfterBindUniformBuffers = 4294967295
maxPerStageDescriptorUpdateAfterBindStorageBuffers = 4294967295
maxPerStageDescriptorUpdateAfterBindSampledImages = 4294967295
maxPerStageDescriptorUpdateAfterBindStorageImages = 4294967295
maxPerStageDescriptorUpdateAfterBindInputAttachments = 4294967295
maxPerStageUpdateAfterBindResources = 4294967295
maxDescriptorSetUpdateAfterBindSamplers = 4294967295
maxDescriptorSetUpdateAfterBindUniformBuffers = 4294967295
maxDescriptorSetUpdateAfterBindUniformBuffersDynamic = 8
maxDescriptorSetUpdateAfterBindStorageBuffers = 4294967295
maxDescriptorSetUpdateAfterBindStorageBuffersDynamic = 8
maxDescriptorSetUpdateAfterBindSampledImages = 4294967295
maxDescriptorSetUpdateAfterBindStorageImages = 4294967295
maxDescriptorSetUpdateAfterBindInputAttachments = 4294967295
supportedDepthResolveModes: count = 3
RESOLVE_MODE_SAMPLE_ZERO_BIT
RESOLVE_MODE_MIN_BIT
RESOLVE_MODE_MAX_BIT
supportedStencilResolveModes: count = 3
RESOLVE_MODE_SAMPLE_ZERO_BIT
RESOLVE_MODE_MIN_BIT
RESOLVE_MODE_MAX_BIT
independentResolveNone = true
independentResolve = true
filterMinmaxSingleComponentFormats = true
filterMinmaxImageComponentMapping = true
maxTimelineSemaphoreValueDifference = 4294967295
framebufferIntegerColorSampleCounts: count = 4
SAMPLE_COUNT_1_BIT
SAMPLE_COUNT_2_BIT
SAMPLE_COUNT_4_BIT
SAMPLE_COUNT_8_BIT

VkPhysicalDeviceVulkan13Properties:
-----------------------------------
minSubgroupSize = 32
maxSubgroupSize = 64
maxComputeWorkgroupSubgroups = 4294967295
requiredSubgroupSizeStages: count = 1
SHADER_STAGE_COMPUTE_BIT
maxInlineUniformBlockSize = 65536
maxPerStageDescriptorInlineUniformBlocks = 16
maxPerStageDescriptorUpdateAfterBindInlineUniformBlocks = 16
maxDescriptorSetInlineUniformBlocks = 16
maxDescriptorSetUpdateAfterBindInlineUniformBlocks = 16
maxInlineUniformTotalSize = 4294967295
integerDotProduct8BitUnsignedAccelerated = true
integerDotProduct8BitSignedAccelerated = true
integerDotProduct8BitMixedSignednessAccelerated = false
integerDotProduct4x8BitPackedUnsignedAccelerated = true
integerDotProduct4x8BitPackedSignedAccelerated = true
integerDotProduct4x8BitPackedMixedSignednessAccelerated = false
integerDotProduct16BitUnsignedAccelerated = true
integerDotProduct16BitSignedAccelerated = true
integerDotProduct16BitMixedSignednessAccelerated = false
integerDotProduct32BitUnsignedAccelerated = false
integerDotProduct32BitSignedAccelerated = false
integerDotProduct32BitMixedSignednessAccelerated = false
integerDotProduct64BitUnsignedAccelerated = false
integerDotProduct64BitSignedAccelerated = false
integerDotProduct64BitMixedSignednessAccelerated = false
integerDotProductAccumulatingSaturating8BitUnsignedAccelerated = true
integerDotProductAccumulatingSaturating8BitSignedAccelerated = true
integerDotProductAccumulatingSaturating8BitMixedSignednessAccelerated = false
integerDotProductAccumulatingSaturating4x8BitPackedUnsignedAccelerated = true
integerDotProductAccumulatingSaturating4x8BitPackedSignedAccelerated = true
integerDotProductAccumulatingSaturating4x8BitPackedMixedSignednessAccelerated = false
integerDotProductAccumulatingSaturating16BitUnsignedAccelerated = true
integerDotProductAccumulatingSaturating16BitSignedAccelerated = true
integerDotProductAccumulatingSaturating16BitMixedSignednessAccelerated = false
integerDotProductAccumulatingSaturating32BitUnsignedAccelerated = false
integerDotProductAccumulatingSaturating32BitSignedAccelerated = false
integerDotProductAccumulatingSaturating32BitMixedSignednessAccelerated = false
integerDotProductAccumulatingSaturating64BitUnsignedAccelerated = false
integerDotProductAccumulatingSaturating64BitSignedAccelerated = false
integerDotProductAccumulatingSaturating64BitMixedSignednessAccelerated = false
storageTexelBufferOffsetAlignmentBytes = 0x00000004
storageTexelBufferOffsetSingleTexelAlignment = true
uniformTexelBufferOffsetAlignmentBytes = 0x00000004
uniformTexelBufferOffsetSingleTexelAlignment = true
maxBufferSize = 0x80000000

VkPhysicalDeviceVulkan14Properties:
-----------------------------------
lineSubPixelPrecisionBits = 4
maxVertexAttribDivisor = 4294967295
supportsNonZeroFirstInstance = true
maxPushDescriptors = 32
dynamicRenderingLocalReadDepthStencilAttachments = true
dynamicRenderingLocalReadMultisampledAttachments = true
earlyFragmentMultisampleCoverageAfterSampleCounting = true
earlyFragmentSampleMaskTestBeforeSampleCounting = true
depthStencilSwizzleOneSupport = true
polygonModePointSize = true
nonStrictSinglePixelWideLinesUseParallelogram = true
nonStrictWideLinesUseParallelogram = true
blockTexelViewCompatibleMultipleLayers = true
maxCombinedImageSamplerDescriptorCount = 3
fragmentShadingRateClampCombinerInputs = true
defaultRobustnessStorageBuffers = PIPELINE_ROBUSTNESS_BUFFER_BEHAVIOR_DISABLED
defaultRobustnessUniformBuffers = PIPELINE_ROBUSTNESS_BUFFER_BEHAVIOR_DISABLED
defaultRobustnessVertexInputs = PIPELINE_ROBUSTNESS_BUFFER_BEHAVIOR_ROBUST_BUFFER_ACCESS
defaultRobustnessImages = PIPELINE_ROBUSTNESS_IMAGE_BEHAVIOR_DISABLED
copySrcLayoutCount = 0
pCopySrcLayouts = NULL
copyDstLayoutCount = 0
pCopyDstLayouts = NULL
optimalTilingLayoutUUID = 00000000-0000-0000-0000-000000000000
identicalMemoryTypeRequirements = false

Device Extensions: count = 182
VK_AMD_buffer_marker : extension revision 1
VK_AMD_device_coherent_memory : extension revision 1
VK_AMD_draw_indirect_count : extension revision 2
VK_AMD_gcn_shader : extension revision 1
VK_AMD_gpa_interface : extension revision 1
VK_AMD_gpu_shader_half_float : extension revision 2
VK_AMD_gpu_shader_int16 : extension revision 2
VK_AMD_memory_overallocation_behavior : extension revision 1
VK_AMD_mixed_attachment_samples : extension revision 1
VK_AMD_shader_ballot : extension revision 1
VK_AMD_shader_core_properties : extension revision 2
VK_AMD_shader_core_properties2 : extension revision 1
VK_AMD_shader_early_and_late_fragment_tests : extension revision 1
VK_AMD_shader_explicit_vertex_parameter : extension revision 1
VK_AMD_shader_fragment_mask : extension revision 1
VK_AMD_shader_image_load_store_lod : extension revision 1
VK_AMD_shader_info : extension revision 1
VK_AMD_shader_trinary_minmax : extension revision 1
VK_AMD_texture_gather_bias_lod : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_4444_formats : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_attachment_feedback_loop_layout : extension revision 2
VK_EXT_border_color_swizzle : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_calibrated_timestamps : extension revision 2
VK_EXT_color_write_enable : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_conditional_rendering : extension revision 2
VK_EXT_conservative_rasterization : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_custom_border_color : extension revision 12
VK_EXT_depth_clamp_control : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_depth_clamp_zero_one : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_depth_clip_control : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_depth_clip_enable : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_depth_range_unrestricted : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_descriptor_buffer : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_descriptor_indexing : extension revision 2
VK_EXT_device_address_binding_report : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_device_fault : extension revision 2
VK_EXT_dynamic_rendering_unused_attachments : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_extended_dynamic_state : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_extended_dynamic_state2 : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_extended_dynamic_state3 : extension revision 2
VK_EXT_external_memory_dma_buf : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_external_memory_host : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_fragment_shader_interlock : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_frame_boundary : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_global_priority : extension revision 2
VK_EXT_global_priority_query : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_graphics_pipeline_library : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_hdr_metadata : extension revision 3
VK_EXT_host_query_reset : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_image_drm_format_modifier : extension revision 2
VK_EXT_image_robustness : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_image_sliced_view_of_3d : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_image_view_min_lod : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_index_type_uint8 : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_inline_uniform_block : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_line_rasterization : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_load_store_op_none : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_memory_budget : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_memory_priority : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_mesh_shader : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_mutable_descriptor_type : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_nested_command_buffer : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_non_seamless_cube_map : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_pageable_device_local_memory : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_pci_bus_info : extension revision 2
VK_EXT_physical_device_drm : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_pipeline_creation_cache_control : extension revision 3
VK_EXT_pipeline_creation_feedback : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_pipeline_library_group_handles : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_post_depth_coverage : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_primitive_topology_list_restart : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_private_data : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_provoking_vertex : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_queue_family_foreign : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_robustness2 : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_sample_locations : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_sampler_filter_minmax : extension revision 2
VK_EXT_scalar_block_layout : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_separate_stencil_usage : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_shader_atomic_float : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_shader_atomic_float2 : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_shader_demote_to_helper_invocation : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_shader_image_atomic_int64 : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_shader_module_identifier : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_shader_stencil_export : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_shader_subgroup_ballot : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_shader_subgroup_vote : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_shader_viewport_index_layer : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_subgroup_size_control : extension revision 2
VK_EXT_texel_buffer_alignment : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_tooling_info : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_transform_feedback : extension revision 1
VK_EXT_vertex_attribute_divisor : extension revision 3
VK_EXT_vertex_input_dynamic_state : extension revision 2
VK_EXT_ycbcr_image_arrays : extension revision 1
VK_GOOGLE_decorate_string : extension revision 1
VK_GOOGLE_hlsl_functionality1 : extension revision 1
VK_GOOGLE_user_type : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_16bit_storage : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_8bit_storage : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_acceleration_structure : extension revision 13
VK_KHR_bind_memory2 : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_buffer_device_address : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_calibrated_timestamps : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_compute_shader_derivatives : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_cooperative_matrix : extension revision 2
VK_KHR_copy_commands2 : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_create_renderpass2 : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_dedicated_allocation : extension revision 3
VK_KHR_deferred_host_operations : extension revision 4
VK_KHR_depth_stencil_resolve : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_descriptor_update_template : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_device_group : extension revision 4
VK_KHR_draw_indirect_count : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_driver_properties : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_dynamic_rendering : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_dynamic_rendering_local_read : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_external_fence : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_external_fence_fd : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_external_memory : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_external_memory_fd : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_external_semaphore : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_external_semaphore_fd : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_format_feature_flags2 : extension revision 2
VK_KHR_fragment_shader_barycentric : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_fragment_shading_rate : extension revision 2
VK_KHR_get_memory_requirements2 : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_global_priority : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_image_format_list : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_imageless_framebuffer : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_index_type_uint8 : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_line_rasterization : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_load_store_op_none : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_maintenance1 : extension revision 2
VK_KHR_maintenance2 : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_maintenance3 : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_maintenance4 : extension revision 2
VK_KHR_maintenance5 : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_maintenance6 : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_maintenance7 : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_map_memory2 : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_multiview : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_pipeline_binary : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_pipeline_executable_properties : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_pipeline_library : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_push_descriptor : extension revision 2
VK_KHR_ray_query : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_ray_tracing_maintenance1 : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_ray_tracing_pipeline : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_ray_tracing_position_fetch : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_relaxed_block_layout : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_sampler_mirror_clamp_to_edge : extension revision 3
VK_KHR_sampler_ycbcr_conversion : extension revision 14
VK_KHR_separate_depth_stencil_layouts : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_shader_atomic_int64 : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_shader_clock : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_shader_draw_parameters : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_shader_expect_assume : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_shader_float16_int8 : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_shader_float_controls : extension revision 4
VK_KHR_shader_float_controls2 : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_shader_integer_dot_product : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_shader_maximal_reconvergence : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_shader_non_semantic_info : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_shader_quad_control : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_shader_subgroup_extended_types : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_shader_subgroup_rotate : extension revision 2
VK_KHR_shader_subgroup_uniform_control_flow : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_shader_terminate_invocation : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_spirv_1_4 : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_storage_buffer_storage_class : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_swapchain : extension revision 70
VK_KHR_swapchain_mutable_format : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_synchronization2 : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_timeline_semaphore : extension revision 2
VK_KHR_uniform_buffer_standard_layout : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_variable_pointers : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_vertex_attribute_divisor : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_vulkan_memory_model : extension revision 3
VK_KHR_workgroup_memory_explicit_layout : extension revision 1
VK_KHR_zero_initialize_workgroup_memory : extension revision 1
VK_VALVE_mutable_descriptor_type : extension revision 1

VkQueueFamilyProperties:
========================
queueProperties[0]:
-------------------
minImageTransferGranularity = (1,1,1)
queueCount = 1
queueFlags = QUEUE_GRAPHICS_BIT | QUEUE_COMPUTE_BIT | QUEUE_TRANSFER_BIT | QUEUE_SPARSE_BINDING_BIT
timestampValidBits = 64
present support = true

queueProperties[1]:
-------------------
minImageTransferGranularity = (1,1,1)
queueCount = 4
queueFlags = QUEUE_COMPUTE_BIT | QUEUE_TRANSFER_BIT | QUEUE_SPARSE_BINDING_BIT
timestampValidBits = 64
present support = true

queueProperties[2]:
-------------------
minImageTransferGranularity = (16,16,8)
queueCount = 2
queueFlags = QUEUE_TRANSFER_BIT | QUEUE_SPARSE_BINDING_BIT
timestampValidBits = 64
present support = true

VkPhysicalDeviceMemoryProperties:
=================================
memoryHeaps: count = 3
memoryHeaps[0]:
size = 16894656512 (0x3ef000000) (15.73 GiB)
budget = 16049923072 (0x3bca66400) (14.95 GiB)
usage = 0 (0x00000000) (0.00 B)
flags: count = 2
MEMORY_HEAP_DEVICE_LOCAL_BIT
MEMORY_HEAP_MULTI_INSTANCE_BIT
memoryHeaps[1]:
size = 16777216000 (0x3e8000000) (15.62 GiB)
budget = 15938355200 (0x3b6000000) (14.84 GiB)
usage = 0 (0x00000000) (0.00 B)
flags:
None
memoryHeaps[2]:
size = 268435456 (0x10000000) (256.00 MiB)
budget = 255013680 (0x0f333330) (243.20 MiB)
usage = 0 (0x00000000) (0.00 B)
flags: count = 2
MEMORY_HEAP_DEVICE_LOCAL_BIT
MEMORY_HEAP_MULTI_INSTANCE_BIT
memoryTypes: count = 16
memoryTypes[0]:
heapIndex = 0
propertyFlags = 0x0001: count = 1
MEMORY_PROPERTY_DEVICE_LOCAL_BIT
usable for:
IMAGE_TILING_OPTIMAL:
color images
FORMAT_D16_UNORM
FORMAT_D32_SFLOAT
FORMAT_S8_UINT
FORMAT_D16_UNORM_S8_UINT
FORMAT_D32_SFLOAT_S8_UINT
IMAGE_TILING_LINEAR:
color images
memoryTypes[1]:
heapIndex = 1
propertyFlags = 0x0006: count = 2
MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_VISIBLE_BIT
MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_COHERENT_BIT
usable for:
IMAGE_TILING_OPTIMAL:
color images
FORMAT_D16_UNORM
FORMAT_D32_SFLOAT
FORMAT_S8_UINT
FORMAT_D16_UNORM_S8_UINT
FORMAT_D32_SFLOAT_S8_UINT
IMAGE_TILING_LINEAR:
color images
memoryTypes[2]:
heapIndex = 2
propertyFlags = 0x0007: count = 3
MEMORY_PROPERTY_DEVICE_LOCAL_BIT
MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_VISIBLE_BIT
MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_COHERENT_BIT
usable for:
IMAGE_TILING_OPTIMAL:
color images
FORMAT_D16_UNORM
FORMAT_D32_SFLOAT
FORMAT_S8_UINT
FORMAT_D16_UNORM_S8_UINT
FORMAT_D32_SFLOAT_S8_UINT
IMAGE_TILING_LINEAR:
color images
memoryTypes[3]:
heapIndex = 1
propertyFlags = 0x000e: count = 3
MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_VISIBLE_BIT
MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_COHERENT_BIT
MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_CACHED_BIT
usable for:
IMAGE_TILING_OPTIMAL:
color images
FORMAT_D16_UNORM
FORMAT_D32_SFLOAT
FORMAT_S8_UINT
FORMAT_D16_UNORM_S8_UINT
FORMAT_D32_SFLOAT_S8_UINT
IMAGE_TILING_LINEAR:
color images
memoryTypes[4]:
heapIndex = 0
propertyFlags = 0x00c1: count = 3
MEMORY_PROPERTY_DEVICE_LOCAL_BIT
MEMORY_PROPERTY_DEVICE_COHERENT_BIT_AMD
MEMORY_PROPERTY_DEVICE_UNCACHED_BIT_AMD
usable for:
IMAGE_TILING_OPTIMAL:
None
IMAGE_TILING_LINEAR:
None
memoryTypes[5]:
heapIndex = 1
propertyFlags = 0x00c6: count = 4
MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_VISIBLE_BIT
MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_COHERENT_BIT
MEMORY_PROPERTY_DEVICE_COHERENT_BIT_AMD
MEMORY_PROPERTY_DEVICE_UNCACHED_BIT_AMD
usable for:
IMAGE_TILING_OPTIMAL:
None
IMAGE_TILING_LINEAR:
None
memoryTypes[6]:
heapIndex = 2
propertyFlags = 0x00c7: count = 5
MEMORY_PROPERTY_DEVICE_LOCAL_BIT
MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_VISIBLE_BIT
MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_COHERENT_BIT
MEMORY_PROPERTY_DEVICE_COHERENT_BIT_AMD
MEMORY_PROPERTY_DEVICE_UNCACHED_BIT_AMD
usable for:
IMAGE_TILING_OPTIMAL:
None
IMAGE_TILING_LINEAR:
None
memoryTypes[7]:
heapIndex = 1
propertyFlags = 0x00ce: count = 5
MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_VISIBLE_BIT
MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_COHERENT_BIT
MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_CACHED_BIT
MEMORY_PROPERTY_DEVICE_COHERENT_BIT_AMD
MEMORY_PROPERTY_DEVICE_UNCACHED_BIT_AMD
usable for:
IMAGE_TILING_OPTIMAL:
None
IMAGE_TILING_LINEAR:
None
memoryTypes[8]:
heapIndex = 0
propertyFlags = 0x0001: count = 1
MEMORY_PROPERTY_DEVICE_LOCAL_BIT
usable for:
IMAGE_TILING_OPTIMAL:
None
IMAGE_TILING_LINEAR:
None
memoryTypes[9]:
heapIndex = 1
propertyFlags = 0x0006: count = 2
MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_VISIBLE_BIT
MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_COHERENT_BIT
usable for:
IMAGE_TILING_OPTIMAL:
None
IMAGE_TILING_LINEAR:
None
memoryTypes[10]:
heapIndex = 2
propertyFlags = 0x0007: count = 3
MEMORY_PROPERTY_DEVICE_LOCAL_BIT
MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_VISIBLE_BIT
MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_COHERENT_BIT
usable for:
IMAGE_TILING_OPTIMAL:
None
IMAGE_TILING_LINEAR:
None
memoryTypes[11]:
heapIndex = 1
propertyFlags = 0x000e: count = 3
MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_VISIBLE_BIT
MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_COHERENT_BIT
MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_CACHED_BIT
usable for:
IMAGE_TILING_OPTIMAL:
None
IMAGE_TILING_LINEAR:
None
memoryTypes[12]:
heapIndex = 0
propertyFlags = 0x00c1: count = 3
MEMORY_PROPERTY_DEVICE_LOCAL_BIT
MEMORY_PROPERTY_DEVICE_COHERENT_BIT_AMD
MEMORY_PROPERTY_DEVICE_UNCACHED_BIT_AMD
usable for:
IMAGE_TILING_OPTIMAL:
None
IMAGE_TILING_LINEAR:
None
memoryTypes[13]:
heapIndex = 1
propertyFlags = 0x00c6: count = 4
MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_VISIBLE_BIT
MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_COHERENT_BIT
MEMORY_PROPERTY_DEVICE_COHERENT_BIT_AMD
MEMORY_PROPERTY_DEVICE_UNCACHED_BIT_AMD
usable for:
IMAGE_TILING_OPTIMAL:
None
IMAGE_TILING_LINEAR:
None
memoryTypes[14]:
heapIndex = 2
propertyFlags = 0x00c7: count = 5
MEMORY_PROPERTY_DEVICE_LOCAL_BIT
MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_VISIBLE_BIT
MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_COHERENT_BIT
MEMORY_PROPERTY_DEVICE_COHERENT_BIT_AMD
MEMORY_PROPERTY_DEVICE_UNCACHED_BIT_AMD
usable for:
IMAGE_TILING_OPTIMAL:
None
IMAGE_TILING_LINEAR:
None
memoryTypes[15]:
heapIndex = 1
propertyFlags = 0x00ce: count = 5
MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_VISIBLE_BIT
MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_COHERENT_BIT
MEMORY_PROPERTY_HOST_CACHED_BIT
MEMORY_PROPERTY_DEVICE_COHERENT_BIT_AMD
MEMORY_PROPERTY_DEVICE_UNCACHED_BIT_AMD
usable for:
IMAGE_TILING_OPTIMAL:
None
IMAGE_TILING_LINEAR:
None

VkPhysicalDeviceFeatures:
=========================
robustBufferAccess = true
fullDrawIndexUint32 = true
imageCubeArray = true
independentBlend = true
geometryShader = true
tessellationShader = true
sampleRateShading = true
dualSrcBlend = true
logicOp = true
multiDrawIndirect = true
drawIndirectFirstInstance = true
depthClamp = true
depthBiasClamp = true
fillModeNonSolid = true
depthBounds = true
wideLines = true
largePoints = true
alphaToOne = false
multiViewport = true
samplerAnisotropy = true
textureCompressionETC2 = false
textureCompressionASTC_LDR = false
textureCompressionBC = true
occlusionQueryPrecise = true
pipelineStatisticsQuery = true
vertexPipelineStoresAndAtomics = true
fragmentStoresAndAtomics = true
shaderTessellationAndGeometryPointSize = true
shaderImageGatherExtended = true
shaderStorageImageExtendedFormats = true
shaderStorageImageMultisample = true
shaderStorageImageReadWithoutFormat = true
shaderStorageImageWriteWithoutFormat = true
shaderUniformBufferArrayDynamicIndexing = true
shaderSampledImageArrayDynamicIndexing = true
shaderStorageBufferArrayDynamicIndexing = true
shaderStorageImageArrayDynamicIndexing = true
shaderClipDistance = true
shaderCullDistance = true
shaderFloat64 = true
shaderInt64 = true
shaderInt16 = true
shaderResourceResidency = true
shaderResourceMinLod = true
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[xrogaan]

I'm fairly certain it's the same issue of piloting a ship and moving the mouse increases the frame time and pressing the forward key in a station also increases the frame time.

the command steam vs steam-native provides a reduction in the problem. steam is keeping my fps around 34-36 but steam-native will drop to 3 fps.

i have a 5800x3d with a rx 6800 with 32gb of RAM. my os is arch Linux. I'm assuming i shouldn't have any issues, but i am.

English 7.5 current steam version
unmodded
smugglers Paradise
frame time increases / fps drop while moving the mouse - walking in station
steam-native
some of the vulkaninfo was chopped off due to character length limits

Yeah, you have roughly the same system than I do. For the vulkan info, posting the result on a pastebin is a better idea than the forum. Best is a github gist though. I assume you have mesa 25.x installed, thus latest drivers.

Does the lag spikes happen after a while for you too, or right away? Seems to me that there is some kind of memory leak, thus the reason I posted a trace.

[xAix1999]

it takes (usually) 45 minutes before it's noticeable, rarely it will take 2 hours. the library change from steam helps but let's me know there is multiple sources for the increase in frame time.

my ram and vram will increase to around 12.7gb then the lag is unplayable. seems like there is not enough garbage collection routines.

i have a very old install for my os and i was thinking it might be time to migrate to an efi/gpt install to enable rebar and finally migrate from mbr/bios boot. like I'm not even using hdd for my system but i have 2x 500gb ssd in raid 0 with mdadm for my software raid controller. granted i have compression turned on for my ssd with btrfs but it's the cheapest cpu cycles wise lz0. no swap file but 32gb of ram is fine enough, system has only ran out of ram once but i was filling my ram on purpose to crash it.

putting the graphics up to high doesn't cause the lag or putting the graphics to low doesn't resolve it. changing the gpu from the radv variation to the regular rx 6800 helped only to delay it, sometimes.

[xAix1999]

I've also been playing on my steam deck at 720p with an external monitor. 4gb of vram and 12(ish)gb of system ram, problem continues with the native windows and native Linux client. the more i transition to different sectors (doing transport missions and escorts) the sooner the frame time will escalate. i have gotten into the habit of taking a break and restart the steam deck once an hour as closing and restarting the game does not completely remove the issue.

[xrogaan]

I don't know if it's the transition between sectors that trigger the bad performances. I've tried to teleport around a bunch, and the game would run just fine. Eventually, I fought some Xenon and once done, started to do admin stuff (building station, buy orders, stuff like that). The bad performances appeared as I remained stationary. Thus, on my end, it seems to be more about the amount of time I play rather than what I do. It's very noticeable, because they are very short freezes. So it's noticeable even in a menu or on the map.

I've been wondering if there is anything I more I can do to help the good folks at egosoft. I don't know if they managed to reproduce the issue.

[xAix1999]

i was in a (large for me) large fleet battle with arg ant vs hop in second contact and while i was exclusively in that one sector for the entire play session, the stuttering and frame time jumps showed up in the first ten minutes of playing. for me the keyboard input had the most impact. i was able to turn off the stuttering by using the directional keys, up down left right. when turning the stuttering was incredible but if i hit the up or down button while turning the stuttering would stop. i also noticed that when my game went to exit to desktop, the longer the stuttering was happening the longer my steam would say "running" while the game was already exited and thus blocking me from starting it.

i did the large battle and then left the game on while i went to sleep and then to work the next day and so the game was probably running for 20 hours and once i closed it (exit to desktop), it took another 1.5 hours for the game to close and i was able to relaunch the game. i wasnt able to do much or really play but the 1.5 hours of the game running while actually closed was kind of a show stopper for me. really reduces my interest in the game.

[xrogaan]

Yeah, the time it takes for the game to "close" is basically it crashing. Software usually clean up after themselves, as in freeing memory, but in this case (since it's a SIGSEGV) it's getting confused. I've reported that behavior here, however the crash is trivial since it happens on exit. You can expedite the end of the software by sending a SIGKILL to the process:

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pkill -9 X4

SIGKILL tells the OS to be rude and disregard anything the software wants to do, it ends the process and free the memory. If it takes a longer time to close the software proportionally to the time you leave it running, it may means that it's then trying to free a larger amount of mapped memory. Please understand that in this case memory isn't RAM or VRAM, but any kind of storage the software wants to access. For example, when reading a file it reads it from a memory device that happens to be a hard drive. More about this.

[xAix1999]

yeah, i've had to kill it a few times already. shows up as "Main()" in btop. i was mostly doing an experiment to see how long it would take. being 7.5 now and on linux, i was expecting a better experience then to fight with a game.

almost every game i have played on Linux was a better experience then playing it in windows due to all the software optimizations. switching to using proton-ge again would dump all my saves and steam / egosoft hasn't done to well with moving files from one directory to another. moving my save from my steam deck to my main rig was like night and day, but i can't get away from what ever user input causing the game to temporarily hang. sounds crazy to me.

[xAix1999]

so i did some performance testing and the only real impact i have been able to see that is related to the stuttering is memory allocation.

game will start with 14 gb being used, this isnt normally detrimental to my system but there is also 17 gb of cached data in my ram which is also showing less then 1 gb of non-cached free ram available.
the cached ram and game ram equals to about 31 gb of ram. i believe i can say the stuttering is from garbage collection and or system ram being cleared.

i added a swap file to my btrfs filesystem using the command

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btrfs filesystem mkswapfile --size 32g --uuid clear /home/swapfile

and then

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swapon /home/swapfile

and my issue has seeming gone away.

the swap file isnt being used but stuttering has stopped. the reason i put my swap file in the home directory is my raid 0 is /home.

nevermind it came back, just took longer this time.

[xrogaan]

nevermind it came back, just took longer this time.

Yeah, the game is allocating as much memory it can. But in the event of a leak, the memory isn't being cleared. In this case, it took longer because the game had more space to fill.

At this point, I'm pretty sure we're suffering from a leak. Which would be somewhat obvious to find, yet time consuming. I would love to help egosoft find the source, by running the game through valgrind or something similar, but we've yet to hear anything from them. Dunno if any action would be helpful, binary has optimized out any helpful flag. You can try for yourself though:

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valgrind --leak-check=full --log-file=valgrind-out.txt -v ./X4

And if you run through steam, you can get it to spawn a terminal by using this line in the "launch option" of your game:

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xterm -bg black -fg white && echo %command% > /dev/null

[xAix1999]

I'm not sure why but my feeling is an human interface device library for player input.

[xrogaan]

You may want to try the new beta. It seems to have fixed the issue for me, though I'm still somewhat dubious. Loading a save from 7.5 had the lag spikes after a while. But after loading a save from 7.6 (and enabling the debug flag), no more lag spike. I don't know if it's the debug flag or if the issue is resolved

[xAix1999]

how do you use the betas? i checked the steam betas for different versioning and 7.5 legacy is the latest.

[CBJ]

See the Public Beta Announcement thread right at the top of the main forum.

[xAix1999]

thank you for directing me there. after reading the disclaimer and warnings, i won't be using the beta as i have been running my game unattended as i haven't created a seta module yet. if my save were to break it would be many hours before I'm able to notice the issue. i have added the debug flag to my launch options and will post here my results as my current game is firmly in the lack of hull parts lull of the mid game. tomorrow or when my first station is built and able to create it's first few hull parts, i will be able to interact with the game and provide an update on the stuttering.

[xAix1999]

the -debug flag did not resolve the issue. i will back up my saves and test the 7.6 beta with something ethereal like timelines.