Trump - Criminal Prosecution

[felter]

YEP they're all corrupt idiots here too, but we can do things about that and the one thing we don't have is a corrupt supreme court that is running our politics and telling what we can and can't do and if we did, we wouldn't just sit back and let that happen. Just what are those other Americans doing to put a stop to their corrupt supreme court and very openly corrupt government. Right now you are all doing, nothing, that's what you are all just sitting back and letting it all happen.

Here's a question for you, who actually is running America? It's not congress, they have made little to no legislation in the past 4 years while doing everything to hamper what your so-called President does, don't get it wrong he has done a few things, but most things are halted in the house. The only people who have been making political policies is your supreme court, right now they are the one running the US, that's nine unelected officials. All their decisions that they have been making are all politically motivated, very few have anything to do with laws and legal practices. There are deciding on everything from women rights to gun rights to even deciding whether their own candidate is allowed to run for office or is even held to account for his crimes, all the while they accept bribes and favours and make their decisions on their personal feelings, religious beliefs and political affiliation, anything but the laws of the land.

And what are you all doing about it, NOTHING. While we have corrupt politicians none of them come anywhere near Americans and when they are caught they are dealt with, get found guilty of rape, here kiss your political career goodbye, America it's, let's make him President, get caught and found guilty of massive fraud, here it's hello to 4 years of jail time, America it's lets put him in the Whitehouse for 4 years.

While our legal system may not be perfect it is based on and acted upon what the laws of our country are, no matter who or what you are, America I'm rich and running for President so you can't touch me and your supreme court agrees, and the population just sits back and watches.

Is that not a joke or what, you may not like it, but that's the plain facts of it all. If you are getting angry over what I'm saying, good, then do something about it, do something about the situation your country is in, because if you and the rest of your country doesn't then it is just going to become even more of a joke but not a funny kind of joke.

By the way, don't take any of this personally as it's not meant to be, I have nothing against America or its population as a whole but right now like it or not your country is the laughingstock of the world.

[CBJ]

To be fair, I think felter was referring to America's political and legislative institutions rather than its individual people. To outside eyes, the idea that the Supreme Court could make decisions based on politics or ideology rather than the letter of the law seems truly bizarre.

Edit: he beat me to it!

[matthewfarmery]

Its clear that the supreme court isn't interested in the constitution, otherwise, it would not give Trump this immunity. I think we are seeing a repeat on what happend in ancient Rome, and it may even turn out similar? hard to say, but some emperors didn't last that long. But yes, the GOP if possible will do everything to make Trump emperor, while at the same time, the corrupt supreme court is following suit. As for who is running the country, clearly not the president. at least not currently. But I bet that will change if Trump comes back into power. He will change everything and congress will make him an emperor by name. And with the power to boot. It will be a terrifying thought that a country could go down that path. But unless the voters do keep him out, he will destroy the fragile constitution in a heartbeat and the supreme court will also be forced to stand aside and watch. He will also reshape it. And I don't think they will understand that until it hits them.

And yes. nothing is really done about it. The courts will not stop this man, as many are on his side, congress will not stop him. Only voters can, and I really hope enough will see the danger. But many won't and will embrace the new regime like congress and the other ultra powerful. America will not be the same again.

What can be done now? that is a hard question, he will not be held to account that is for sure. And Biden won't stop him, he is too soft. A dangerous and unsettling times we live in.

[Vertigo 7]

I already said there's nothing we can legally do right now. If I had access to cruise missiles, I know where the first dozen would go. But I don't, all I can do is vote, for now.

The GOP has gotten out of control and there's nothing short of a civil war that's going to rectify that. Even if we keep general bone spurs out of the white house, they still have too many strong holds in rural states that will serve as an impediment to any legal challenges that would curtail their authority.

[clakclak]

Arguing over what country has cought the worst version of the fascism is not going to help anyone. As someone from Europe I’d say throwing stones at America as a country from within our glass house is not going to change anything nor is it going to make things better. Fascist remain fascists no matter if the they say cheers, prost, salute or kanpai. Blind hatred against America will not get us anywhere neither will downplaying our own problems.

[matthewfarmery]

So the hush money sentencing has been delayed unto September, what a farce. What is more, loose cannon has delayed things farther to consider Trump's immunity claims. (on what grounds?) considering he was NOT president at the time. When is Jack Smith going to get off his arse and do something?

More I see it, Trump has a good prospect of getting back into the WH and destroy everything. Seems no other trials will happen anytime soon. and I doubt the hush money one will do much, if anything.

[humility925]

If you are getting angry over what I'm saying, good, then do something about it, do something about the situation your country is in,

Problem is that yes, in USA People do get anger but they can do nothing, as corrupted government is too powerful and had many people blind loyal to them.
Common people don't had much power (it's why many years government doing a secret right under people's nose, keep people fighting each other, keep people busy at work all day and night for stay alive and for had a home, take their children into school and school doing some propaganda into children mind without parent know about it, while parent had to keep busy keep income coming and paid a bill, not had time for children, not had time for keep government in check, we do had few people wake up and try warn their own citizen but own citizen do not believe or too tired or worn out from work/home life due under system economics corrupt people control over, not just government but a corporation and other secert organizations do work or help with government along that, sometime family connected, or same/similar dark/evil ideological that common people do not like but not aware, because they had allied corrupt media propaganda (in fact it's like puppet master use red/blue as puppet, make people think there is 2 side but there isn't) all down to it, there is might be secert hide organization that couple generations dark influence. Common people who wake up couldn't do anything other than share and warning other people but I guess other citizen mocking other own citizen, some might see something wrong, and try stop, but got throw in jail, lose-lose situation, people would try talk and communication but it's don't do anything due difference ideological, it's might be similar to germany before WW2, I wonder if there is bible world end in 2030 or 2035 or even 2028 even since bible warn it's much worse in any history, maybe this time american/USA is much worse than germany's ww2? Ironically, USA would become a become swoen enemies like germany in ww 2 but much worse.

I can't do anything in USA, I'm disability, I'm aware of very enemies within nation, seek to ruin all USA, and many people do not believe or not aware or blind loyal to very corrupt system, whatever culture/law/organization that look good, seem good but it's trap as cheese in mouse trap.

I don't know, it's all theory but it's possible that USA would be much worse in 2028 or 2032, it's might worse than germany or maybe not, who know. I'm not God, I do not had supernatural/superpowers but I did experience bad, no hope, and suffer under cruel system that in USA. So I wouldn't surprise yet not much I can do as I said I had no power, evil organization is too powerful, and people are too busy or too tired or worn out not had time to see and think outside of box to united to stop evil organization as I guess people busy want a good life but out of reach.

It's messed up, like Weed, more weed grow bigger, hard to pull roots off since roots got so big and long into ground because it's been there for long time, same for USA government/organization/corporations it's been grow for so long that it's just hard to pull off weeds. even you pull weeds and destroy roots, oh here is other weed grow out of nowhere, pull out, again and agains.

It's not fun to pull weed in garden when you want your garden grow beautiful, if not take care of garden, garden would look ugly and messed, full of weeds!

It's all down down to it, many people don't want civil war, don't want death, and don't want civil war, people want easy life, and want to remove evil without death/blood spilt/violence, but that would might be reason why weeds root keep growing stronger, stronger, all beautful flower in garden would die out due weeds, all food in garden is't good product and nasty because of weeds or no food at all even plant growing due weeds. So you had to do violence to pull weeds, but no one want to do violence, and I do not like to support violence, but I don't see any way to remove corrupt other than violence, corrupt people love power and they don't gave up, they won't. They work hard (not in good way), work smart (not in good way) to ensure they stay in power and weak common people, like I said not in good way.

It's just seem lose-lose situation, when many people prefer win-win situation without blood spilt.death, violence yet win-win situation is all fantasy. I don't blame people wish there is other way, but I don't see how it can be done.

No, I don't support violence, I never want to be part, not independent, not blue, not red, or not any government, I just let God clean up His mess (He create it, maintenance world, endless world and universe) it's His problem as far as I am concerned, it's not my world, yes, I'm suffering, but I'm not going to low level to evil violence as long as God make me walk in compassion and Love eternal. I'm weak and fragile, I did prayed Him to make me walk in love and compassion when I was younger, I see no point beyond it.

What you do when enemies come and attack you in violence? Would you let low to their level? I hope not. World is messed up, but not my job to clean up as I'm not God, I let God clean up His own mess even although people suffering and miserable.

[Chips]

So that's the classified papers case thrown out then.

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cz5rpdrxevro

A Florida judge has dismissed the US justice department's classified documents case against Donald Trump in a huge victory for the former president just days after a gunman attempted to assassinate him.

Judge Aileen Cannon granted Trump's motion to dismiss the federal case on the basis that the justice department's appointment of special prosecutor Jack Smith violates the Appointments Clause of the US Constitution.

Don't get US law, but that's because i'm not an American

[Vertigo 7]

Oh, its okay, she doesn't understand the law either. The dismissal is sure to be appealed and the 11th circuit will likely assign a new trial judge. Hopefully this has earned a bar review for mrs canon.

[matthewfarmery]

She has over stepped the mark. And this will be enough ammo to get the case appealed. She been on Trump's side for some time now. So hopefully the 11th circuit will kick her backside so hard, she won't have any more trials period. This and her long pauses to do anything. Lets hope we get some good news soon, and a new judge appointed.

[felter]

Good news, now that the SCOTUS has made its decision on trumps immunity Judge Chutkan is back on the case, and she has already ruled and dismissed two of Trumps attempts to dismiss the case, they have been sitting on her desk since last October. She is also expected to announce this week dates for hearings into whether Trump actions were Presidential or not, this is bad news for him as this means there will be public hearings over the evidence about what he was up to, and we will get to hear all the juicy facts that he doesn't want anyone to know about, and there is nothing he can do about it. Immunity or not, the facts will be made public knowledge before November fifth.

[felter]

Trump's legal woes continue as Judge Merchan announced yesterday that he will give his decision on refusing himself next week, which is expected to be denied as it was for a reason that was already denied. He also announced that his decision on whether Trump has immunity or not will be made on September 16 but no matter what ever happens Trump will have to turn up for sentencing on September 18 and there will be no more delays to the sentencing.

So by the sounds of things, Trumps trouble is about to become real in September as it is sounding like Judge Merchan does not think Trump has immunity in at least some of his convictions, especially as most of them took place before he was President.

[matthewfarmery]

I suspect most of the convictions will indeed stick. And it won't give his crap lawyers much to go on either. Trump is also complaining about Harris calling him a convict. So yes, September is going to be a bad month for Trump.

[felter]

So Trump mentioned that he was in a Helicopter with Willie Brown when it had to make an Emergency landing, so what does Willie Brown have to say about it.

As always, its Trumps lies, upon lies, upon lies. First he lies about being on a helicopter with Willie Brown, a Democrat I may add, then he lies about the emergency landing and then when it all comes to light he lies about having evidence about it all. As far as I can tell the event was meant to have happened when he was President, so here's the thing, do you think there would be no press coverage of the then president being in a helicopter having to make an emergency landing, that alone shoudl tell everyone that it is all just another fabrication by Trump.

[matthewfarmery]

Trump got the name wrong, the man was Nate Holden

https://www.politico.com/news/2024/08/0 ... a-00173487

Also, it happened around 1990. Trump still seems to sticking with his guns saying it was Brown. And yes, he is threatening to sue. But that won't go far. But we all know Trump has mental issue now. Another thing, this story has been backed up by another passenger named "Barbara Res". She wrote a book about this. But not sure on the title.

So while not a total fabrication. But, I suspect Trump will stick to his story because, Brown was Harris's ex.

[matthewfarmery]

Judge Juan Merchan unleashed his frustration Monday, and again declines to recluse himself. He really should sanction both Trump and his lawyers for the motion. Still, I'm glad he is refusing to set aside, Trump's anger will be huge.

[matthewfarmery]

I call this BS, the Judge in the NY hush money cash has delayed Trump's sentencing until after the November election. Not certain why, as I only seen a headline of it. But this is utter BS and damn Trump and being able to skirt around the law.

[Falcrack]

I call this BS, the Judge in the NY hush money cash has delayed Trump's sentencing until after the November election. Not certain why, as I only seen a headline of it. But this is utter BS and damn Trump and being able to skirt around the law.

Not a fan of Trump, but I think it is wise to delay sentencing until after the election. Sentencing prior to the election would probably do more to turn out votes in favor of Trump.

[Vertigo 7]

I think there's some wisdom in this as well. I find it highly unlikely the orange one will legitimately win, again. Once the election has been called, all the wind will be taken out of his sails and all the courts can throw the book at em and not have it be skewed by rwnjs as election interference.

[matthewfarmery]

That is a good point, but the problem is, another angle is, that it shows that the US justice system is very broken. It clearly in the bag for Trump. And he is escaping accountability. The Justice system is a total joke. So there going to be people who will disagree with this. And Trump is just showing how bad and twisted justice is in America.