[#2611]Timelines, Beta 7.1 4, Rise against the machines not concluding

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[#2611]Timelines, Beta 7.1 4, Rise against the machines not concluding

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Mission is reading Defeat: XEN #dace, however XEN #dace has been destroyed.. mission is not concluding. No Xenon present in sector.
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Re: Timelines, Beta 7.1 4, Rise against the machines not concluding

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Tried the mission a second time... Again... all xenon destroyed, mission does NOT conclude. I destroyed all the ships attacking both Paranid outposts, destroyed the Xenon carrier, even took out the three stations in the bottom right... claimed the abandoned H... everything hostile is dead.

I have lost 3 or 4 hours of my life trying to finish this node for the first time, because it's preventing me from finishing Timelines. This is decidedly not cool.
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Re: Timelines, Beta 7.1 4, Rise against the machines not concluding

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It's been a while since I played this but IIRC there were at least 3 Xenon capital ships I had to destroy. The last one appeared several minutes later. Maybe give them more time and explore the full sector, gate area, it should show up eventually.
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Re: Timelines, Beta 7.1 4, Rise against the machines not concluding

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And I don't think the H should be claimed. It should attack and you destroy it.
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Re: Timelines, Beta 7.1 4, Rise against the machines not concluding

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That's what I'm reporting... I've done the mission twice now... kill the K and I by the Paranid station where you start, kill the carrier and the K up in the upper right, kill all the stuff at the bottom right, including the 3 asteroid bases... the H was between all three abandoned.

I killed all the Xenon, I didn't miss any.. the mission failed to conclude. It even got to the step where it was drawing lines to individual Xenon ships and they're all dead.

This isn't a case of missing some bad guys or something.
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Re: Timelines, Beta 7.1 4, Rise against the machines not concluding

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In point of fact, I actually had to suicide kill myself the second time after being stuck in the mission for over an hour with ships on explore in the sector trying to find any hostiles I missed... even though every bad guy was dead only gave me 2 stars for the mission but at least it counted as done so I didn't have to waste hours of my time still trying to complete it when it hasn't once triggered the completion for me.
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Re: Timelines, Beta 7.1 4, Rise against the machines not concluding

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Sadly I looked at this after I left the mission, hoping it would still give me at least one star. Mine got stuck on the Defeat the H. I tried hanging around the beacon, moving all my ships to another sector, exploring everywhere then decided to return to the Nodus. Glad to hear about the suicide thing and will try that next time. Not really impressed at this point.
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Re: Timelines, Beta 7.1 4, Rise against the machines not concluding

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I can also confirm this issue for Beta 5.

Killed the Xenon at the first station, went to the second and destroyed everyone. Then Xenon attacked first station again. But before my fleet could go there, the station's defenses had taken care of all Xenon. Mission guidance still told me to "Kill Xenon H". I also found the three Xenon Stations, with one abandoned H in the middle of them. I destroyed it manually but this also didn't trigger the debriefing.

Note: My command Zeus got destroyed earlier while I was piloting a fighter, maybe that is relevant?
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Re: Timelines, Beta 7.1 4, Rise against the machines not concluding

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I will point out a few things to clarify what the intent is so we are on same page and avoid misguiding information.
  • There are 3 "groups" of Xenon, The I group, the CPU group and the H group. At the very start of the mission, guidance points to the 3 locations.
  • Near the H group there is an additional Zeus that turns player owned if it is found before it gets destroyed.
  • There is an abandoned H that can be claimed near the 3 Xenon stations, that is intended.
  • The Xenon Stations do not count towards the needed goals, its not required to destroy them.
  • All Xenon are "revealed" by having guidance pointed to them when there are only 10 ships left or 30 minutes have passt
The above list should hopefully allow to narrow down if any steps having missed if any of the statements are not true please report. Since saves are not possible in timelines, would be good if the mission is played using debuglog. For this add -debug all -logfile debuglog.txt to the start parameters and if you have the mission not following the above statements, add it to the report.

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Re: [#2611]Timelines, Beta 7.1 4, Rise against the machines not concluding

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[*]I am not sure if there was guidance to all three groups in the beginning, I was too busy fighting the I group.
[*]I didn't find the additional Zeus
[*]I found the abandoned H but destoryed it, as I had already read here that claiming it does not conclude the mission.
[*]I did not destroy the Xenon stations as I was not expecting a result
[*]There was guidance to the XEN H at least after I destroyed the CPU ship, it was together with some other ships and engaging the station which was previously attacked by the I group. But before my fleet could go there, all Xenon were destroyed by the station already.

At that point the guidance still said something like destroy XEN H, but without pointing to some actual vessel. I used my fleet to scout the sector, and then found the three stations and the abandoned H which I destroyed as mentioned earlier. I did not find any active Xenon vessels in the sector.
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I destroyed all groups, however no guidance was given towards any groups for me in either instance of running the mission.

I did find the other Zeus which turned to my side.

I did find an abandoned H, and did destroy the stations trying to figure out if they were the reason the mission was not concluding.

There was guidance at the end towards all remaining Xenon ships, I did destroy all of those ships, however upon all those ships being destroyed the mission did not conclude.

I have zero mods or any custom content installed, the only custom thing I am involved with is the public beta.
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Re: [#2611]Timelines, Beta 7.1 4, Rise against the machines not concluding

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I should clarify.. there is guidance at the beginning of the mission, but it is two Paranid assets (two stations and a nav beacon) not to Xenon fleets or groups. I am not sure if this is the intended behavior or not.
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Re: [#2611]Timelines, Beta 7.1 4, Rise against the machines not concluding

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Tried the mission again in 7.1 v5, had entered the debuglog lines as in your post... this was the first time the mission concluded for me (in 3 attempts). Not sure what the difference was. I really expected it to fail at the end as it had the previous two times.
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Re: [#2611]Timelines, Beta 7.1 4, Rise against the machines not concluding

Post by ZacKPloK »

Same for me: On my second attempt, the mission conciuded.
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