7.10 [Beta 3] Improved firing range accuracy of turrets (Feedback) - fix confirmed

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7.10 [Beta 3] Improved firing range accuracy of turrets (Feedback) - fix confirmed

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Good day,

After testing last changes in turrets. The shown behavior is suboptimal and worse than beta 2, for instance some large turrets (like L Paranid Plasma) are having trouble to aim and fire reliably when firing platform (ship) is moving.

Here a save with a Raptor trying to aim its large Turrets without firing reliably on target:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/5pmzguzq ... uzo8a&dl=0
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Re: 7.10 [Beta 3] Improved firing range accuracy of turrets (Feedback)

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To reproduce behavior, just get ship at maximum speed!
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Re: 7.10 [Beta 3] Improved firing range accuracy of turrets (Feedback)

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Tested Again, I find another example of not optimal behaviour. My ship is L Plasma Turrets doesn't priorice attacking capital ships as stated. They keep searching for targets without firing:

https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/dh03sv4y ... u28gl&dl=0
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Re: 7.10 [Beta 3] Improved firing range accuracy of turrets (Feedback)

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Sorry for repetition.

I did another test, this is the best one I can deliver.

Basically Paranid L Plasma turrets are tracking and at adequate firing range yet those turrets won't fire even with a high probability to hit their target, this happens after last beta 3 updated turret algorithms:
https://www.dropbox.com/scl/fi/gv68lbne ... 0jvvv&dl=0

In the save the camera is already centered on one of malfunctioning turrets, so is as clear as can be I guess to reproduce.
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Re: 7.10 [Beta 3] Improved firing range accuracy of turrets (Feedback)

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Good day. I faced the same problem. I noticed one pattern. Turrets stop firing after firing at large ships or stations. They no longer respond to any orders. They begin to work normally again after flying to another system.
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Re: 7.10 [Beta 3] Improved firing range accuracy of turrets (Feedback)

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ragnos21 wrote: Tue, 23. Jul 24, 06:03 Good day. I faced the same problem. I noticed one pattern. Turrets stop firing after firing at large ships or stations. They no longer respond to any orders. They begin to work normally again after flying to another system.
As requested when you posted this elsewhere, please provide the information requested in the forum rules, including whether or not your game is modified and a link to your savegame if not.
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Re: 7.10 [Beta 3] Improved firing range accuracy of turrets (Feedback)

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Yes, of course, I understood that. Haven't entered the game yet. I'll upload the save later. Version 7.1 (pack 3), no modifications, clean game.
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Re: 7.10 [Beta 3] Improved firing range accuracy of turrets (Feedback)

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Hi. Here is my save file. The ship is standing next to the stantion and the turrets are no longer firing. If they start shooting after loading, then fly up to the station, let them shoot and fly away. Turrets will not respond to small ships after that. a small observation: in the neighboring sector of the "Choice of Hatikva", the turrets worked normally, shooting first I, then K.

Version 7.1 is beta 3. There are no modifications. Localization is Russian.

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lg94ah ... sp=sharing
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Re: 7.10 [Beta 3] Improved firing range accuracy of turrets (Feedback)

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CBJ wrote: Tue, 23. Jul 24, 08:59
ragnos21 wrote: Tue, 23. Jul 24, 06:03 Good day. I faced the same problem. I noticed one pattern. Turrets stop firing after firing at large ships or stations. They no longer respond to any orders. They begin to work normally again after flying to another system.
As requested when you posted this elsewhere, please provide the information requested in the forum rules, including whether or not your game is modified and a link to your savegame if not.
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Re: 7.10 [Beta 3] Improved firing range accuracy of turrets (Feedback)

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I have the same problem that the original poster, but with M turrets instead.

In the provided save, I'm piloting a Rattlesnake that is under heavy attack of Xenon corvettes and fighters, but the ARG flaks of the ship are unable to hit anything while in movement (I'm trying to leave the sector as the shields are about 20%).

https://1drv.ms/u/s!An3feJbv1gLa0TKqeUF ... V?e=qkbEGD
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CBJ wrote: Tue, 23. Jul 24, 08:59
ragnos21 wrote: Tue, 23. Jul 24, 06:03 Good day. I faced the same problem. I noticed one pattern. Turrets stop firing after firing at large ships or stations. They no longer respond to any orders. They begin to work normally again after flying to another system.
As requested when you posted this elsewhere, please provide the information requested in the forum rules, including whether or not your game is modified and a link to your savegame if not.
Please excuse me, I sent the wrong save link. Here is the current link

https://drive.google.com/file/d/1lg94ah ... sp=sharing
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Re: 7.10 [Beta 3] Improved firing range accuracy of turrets (Feedback)

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Today I discovered that the turrets start firing again if you stand up from behind the controls of the ship and take control of it again
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Re: 7.10 [Beta 3] Improved firing range accuracy of turrets (Feedback)

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I discovered an interesting thing. When I described the problem with the turrets, I was piloting an Erlking, yesterday I switched to a Raptor. His turrets always fired without any problems. Perhaps the turrets only stop firing on Erlking. I'll check this today.
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Re: 7.10 [Beta 3] Improved firing range accuracy of turrets (Feedback)

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ragnos21 wrote: Tue, 30. Jul 24, 06:32 I discovered an interesting thing. When I described the problem with the turrets, I was piloting an Erlking, yesterday I switched to a Raptor. His turrets always fired without any problems. Perhaps the turrets only stop firing on Erlking. I'll check this today.
They also stop firing in the Rattlesnakes, but only against Khaaks, against xenon their work fine. The next time that I spoot a Khaak installation, I'm to upload a save.
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Pesanur wrote: Tue, 30. Jul 24, 08:17
ragnos21 wrote: Tue, 30. Jul 24, 06:32 I discovered an interesting thing. When I described the problem with the turrets, I was piloting an Erlking, yesterday I switched to a Raptor. His turrets always fired without any problems. Perhaps the turrets only stop firing on Erlking. I'll check this today.
They also stop firing in the Rattlesnakes, but only against Khaaks, against xenon their work fine. The next time that I spoot a Khaak installation, I'm to upload a save.
I think turrets have this problem due to priorities. I've noticed that turrets crash less often when set to "attack all enemies". When setting L for turrets to “attack large ships first,” an error often occurs with a ceasefire on all targets. It's on Erlking.
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Re: 7.10 [Beta 3] Improved firing range accuracy of turrets (Feedback)

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ragnos21 wrote: Tue, 30. Jul 24, 09:34
Pesanur wrote: Tue, 30. Jul 24, 08:17
ragnos21 wrote: Tue, 30. Jul 24, 06:32 I discovered an interesting thing. When I described the problem with the turrets, I was piloting an Erlking, yesterday I switched to a Raptor. His turrets always fired without any problems. Perhaps the turrets only stop firing on Erlking. I'll check this today.
They also stop firing in the Rattlesnakes, but only against Khaaks, against xenon their work fine. The next time that I spoot a Khaak installation, I'm to upload a save.
I think turrets have this problem due to priorities. I've noticed that turrets crash less often when set to "attack all enemies". When setting L for turrets to “attack large ships first,” an error often occurs with a ceasefire on all targets. It's on Erlking.
I'm uploaded the save to a new thread, as this is a different problem of the initial report (turrets fails to hit while the ship is in movement).
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Re: 7.10 [Beta 3] Improved firing range accuracy of turrets (Feedback)

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Just wanted to report that for me turrets are working ok now. Thx for the fix!
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