Odysseus remake!??

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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by xant » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:50

linolafett wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:47
This is the resupplier (atlas).
So you even change the models that were introduced as late as the AUX ships?!

Hats off to you, that's some serious dedication here! :o


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Where do you get these images from?
From the Gamestar stream, it was part of the background video.

click me (it's still a live stream, so you need to go back a bit)
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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by linolafett » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:52

I think a player will be able to get the blueprints.
I personally think, that the old ships should not be used anymore, they are really out of date and players do spot that. It makes the game look worse, if we keep em.

EDIT: yep, again: All paranid capital ships got a redesign.
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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by Artean » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:54

linolafett wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:52
EDIT: yep, again: All paranid capital ships got a redesign.
Yes!
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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by linolafett » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:56

And the new ships are free for everyone! *party* They are included in the 5.0 update.
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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by mr.WHO » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:56

linolafett wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:52
I personally think, that the old ships should not be used anymore, they are really out of date and players do spot that. It makes the game look worse, if we keep em.
IMO I don't like good models going to waste.
The "old ships" could be retconned to be previous-generation ships that have been phased out and sold to the minor factions - HAT, SCA and ALI fits perfectly with those sub-par models - here, their "ugliness" would be actually an asset.
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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by Bozz11 » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:57

Woaw... Really ? I did not believe you guys would do this... It's really great, can't wait to see them in game !
And I also think the old models should not be used anymore, the zeus is okey for me but the ody is killing me everytime I see one...

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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by Axeface » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:57

linolafett wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:52
I think a player will be able to get the blueprints.
I personally think, that the old ships should not be used anymore, they are really out of date and players do spot that. It makes the game look worse, if we keep em.

EDIT: yep, again: All paranid capital ships got a redesign.
This is precisely what I want to hear. The old should go imo, but I can understand why you might want to leave the old blueprints for players that still want them. Personally if I can mod them out entirely i'll do that.
And again, thanks for all your work on this! Very happy with these redesigns and cant wait to get my hands on the Odysseus now.

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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by mr.WHO » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:58

Personally, I'm curious about remodeled Zeus.

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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by Tamina » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 20:25

mr.WHO wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:58
Personally, I'm curious about remodeled Zeus.
Isn't Zeus the one in the very first post? (no idea)
Bozz11 wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:57
Woaw... Really ? I did not believe you guys would do this... It's really great, can't wait to see them in game !
And I also think the old models should not be used anymore, the zeus is okey for me but the ody is killing me everytime I see one...
Yep, me neither. I was always thinking we would have to wait for X5 or something like that. Seriosuly, which company does that for their fans?? This is insane.
linolafett wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:52
I think a player will be able to get the blueprints.
I personally think, that the old ships should not be used anymore, they are really out of date and players do spot that. It makes the game look worse, if we keep em.

EDIT: yep, again: All paranid capital ships got a redesign.
I understand that completely but it is so sad to see them dying 😭 ALI has no ships or stations. So it would be safe to give them the old designs for sale. You can also buy this "prototype" ship there (don't know how it is called) and... well, quality wise...

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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by Alm888 » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 20:36

Tamina wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 20:25
Isn't Zeus the one in the very first post? (no idea)
No, that would be "Atlas"

And here is the remodeled hairdryer. Yes, a Behemoth still can not shoot at the target and hit. :(

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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by Tamina » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 20:47

Alm888 wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 20:36
Tamina wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 20:25
Isn't Zeus the one in the very first post? (no idea)
No, that would be "Atlas"

And here is the remodeled hairdryer. Yes, a Behemoth still can not shoot at the target and hit. :(
That is the ship in the first post :P

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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by Alm888 » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 20:52

Tamina wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 20:47
That is the ship in the first post :P
It seems you are right. Somehow, I've missed the entire first page of this thread. *facepalm*

But I don't think we were shown a Zeus yet.

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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by Alith-Ahnar » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 22:03

Wonder how the Zeus turns out.
As none of the pictures include it.
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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by Axeface » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 22:26

Alm888 wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 20:36
Yes, a Behemoth still can not shoot at the target and hit. :(
I noticed that. I posted a beta thread about this issue a long time ago *pulls hair out*.
But lovely ships eh? :)

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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by Falcrack » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 22:32

My personal preference would be to keep the old models, and just add new ships for more variety. But if the old ones are replaced in vanilla, I'm sure they'll find a place in mods.

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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by Scoob » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 22:46

linolafett wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:42
We did redo all paranid capital ships to make them match the quality of the ships released in the dlcs.
There is no new paranid battleship.

As far as i know:
The new ships will replace the old ones in new gamestarts.
In existing games the old ones will stay (for the player). The NPC factions will build/buy the new ones and slowly fade out the old designs that way.
That's actually pretty nice, seeing the new model introduced over time in a game-in-progress. It would be sorta nice to still see the odd ship of the old design in a fresh game though, perhaps in the hands of Pirates. I recall loving modded X3 where old X2 ships were re-introduced and seen around the universe.

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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by LameFox » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 22:53

Awesome. It's funny, I was describing not long ago what I'd like the Odysseus to look like and that's pretty much exactly it. I'll have to start actually capping some.
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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by Ormac » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 22:58

mr.WHO wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:56
linolafett wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:52
I personally think, that the old ships should not be used anymore, they are really out of date and players do spot that. It makes the game look worse, if we keep em.
IMO I don't like good models going to waste.
The "old ships" could be retconned to be previous-generation ships that have been phased out and sold to the minor factions - HAT, SCA and ALI fits perfectly with those sub-par models - here, their "ugliness" would be actually an asset.
I actually like the idea that Alliance of Word could inherit the blueprints of the exisiting (pre 5.0) Paranid Capships. Fits I think with Alliance lore to preserve the history of the Commomwealth of Planets.

Don't think it will work that way though. The new blueprint which the factions will prefer will just produce the new ships to replace losses of the old ones.

So will both sets of ship blueprints be available for purchase.

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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by Ezarkal » Thu, 25. Nov 21, 23:20

linolafett wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:56
And the new ships are free for everyone! *party* They are included in the 5.0 update.
These new designs are looking RAD! Kudos to you and the other asset creators!
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Re: Odysseus remake!??

Post by Alith-Ahnar » Fri, 26. Nov 21, 01:44

Ormac wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 22:58
mr.WHO wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:56
linolafett wrote:
Thu, 25. Nov 21, 19:52
I personally think, that the old ships should not be used anymore, they are really out of date and players do spot that. It makes the game look worse, if we keep em.
IMO I don't like good models going to waste.
The "old ships" could be retconned to be previous-generation ships that have been phased out and sold to the minor factions - HAT, SCA and ALI fits perfectly with those sub-par models - here, their "ugliness" would be actually an asset.
I actually like the idea that Alliance of Word could inherit the blueprints of the exisiting (pre 5.0) Paranid Capships. Fits I think with Alliance lore to preserve the history of the Commomwealth of Planets.

Don't think it will work that way though. The new blueprint which the factions will prefer will just produce the new ships to replace losses of the old ones.

So will both sets of ship blueprints be available for purchase.
Looking at the placement of Turrets and pictures the Scale of the New Paranid Capitals are substantially bigger than what they are now, this is going to have a substantial impact on combat effectiveness compared to the old hulls.
Having Two ships with the same name but different levels of effectiveness just by nature of the Ship geometry alone is reason enough to have only one type of Shiphull in-game.
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