What on Earth is wrong, MAP - Explained.

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What on Earth is wrong, MAP - Explained.

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Hi Technical Support.

What on Earth is wrong with the map sectors, i set way-points to edge of sectors then fly to there and go to map only to find I'm still in the middle of the sector.

This is like this with all sectors since 4.0/GOH and the earth sector is the worse as i have never got to the edge and keep ending up hundreds of Km. away from edges.

Here's a link to a couple of screenshots as seen i first i set the way-point to the edge of sector some 2-3 hundred Km. and second is where i end up after flying to the way-point still in the middles though i have flown the 2-3 hundred Km.

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ghgleluoyesf ... e1gwa?dl=0

Never had this issue before till 4.0/GOH release.
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Unless I've misunderstood something, that's just the map sector zooming out to fit the objects in it. If you fly out towards the "edge" then the map view will zoom out so that your position remains within the hexagon. There are limits to the zooming, but it's entirely intentional.
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CBJ wrote: Mon, 22. Mar 21, 15:04 Unless I've misunderstood something, that's just the map sector zooming out to fit the objects in it. If you fly out towards the "edge" then the map view will zoom out so that your position remains within the hexagon. There are limits to the zooming, but it's entirely intentional.
I think you may have misunderstood this issue never happened before as i said it started with the 4.0/GoH with the addition of the Sol sectors and this as far as i can tell only happen in the Sol sectors and some time when i have mapped what areas i can they seem to go outside the sectors though i never went to the edges, If the maps are zooming in/out how is it that the none Sol sectors don't do this and i can go to the edges without issues.

I have now manage to map the Earth sector with grate difficulty and the Taurus expedition sight that is part of the genesis mission is no where to be found maybe this has something to do with the sector issue bugging it out.
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All sectors behave as I described; it's not something specific to Sol sectors. If you still think something is wrong then you're going to have to explain it in more detail, because I can't see anything unexpected in either your description or the screenshots.
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What I understood was the same thing CBJ did. The map zooms in and out to fit stuff within the hexagonal tile. Mostly of the sectors have gates very far apart with all the stations in the center and you don't need to fly out to find them all. But yeah, some sectors are very small with the gates facing each other (since you start seeing only the gates the map has a big zoom) and when you fly to the edge of the hexagon you will find out that indeed you are in the middle of the map with tons of stations outside of the hexagon's view. But once you discover them all, the map should NOT zoom again and hide them. This is normal behavior and happens in a lot of other sectors as well. You'll find out that lots of factions love to put stations behind the gates. Me included because it feels like a safe spot to place stations, no one goes there... xD
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CBJ wrote: Mon, 22. Mar 21, 20:31 All sectors behave as I described; it's not something specific to Sol sectors. If you still think something is wrong then you're going to have to explain it in more detail, because I can't see anything unexpected in either your description or the screenshots.
AS i said before I DO NOT HAVE THIS ISSUE ANYWHERE ELSE only in the Sol system, Why do you not believe me.

I've traveled over 10,000 Km. passed the know boarder edge (This has to be wrong) in Earths sector to find the Torus fragment and still not getting near the edge or near/finding the Torus

When I cross each of the non Sol sectors they average about 5,000 km edge too edge and never zoom in/out the fit what is in them.
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It is not a case that people do not believe you, rather it is that what you have described so far sounds very much like nornal game behaviour and the screenshots don't really show the unexpected aspects of the issue either. Sectors will keep expanding as you move further out but I don't think that is what you are saying is just the issue.

If you want the devs to investigate it with any chance of success then please include a link to a vanilla save that shows the problem in progress.
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Alan Phipps wrote: Tue, 23. Mar 21, 16:33 It is not a case that people do not believe you, rather it is that what you have described so far sounds very much like nornal game behaviour and the screenshots don't really show the unexpected aspects of the issue either. Sectors will keep expanding as you move further out but I don't think that is what you are saying is just the issue.

If you want the devs to investigate it with any chance of success then please include a link to a vanilla save that shows the problem in progress.
I HAVE GIVEN UP LOOKING FOR THE TORUS, You have scientist who should know where the torus is that should give some better direction or having a ring all the way around earth in fragments so secret no one know where it is Doh! what logic is that and if it is so big why is it not visible when possibly close to it, when it can possibly be seen from the moon.

For all the time since GOH was released I've followed all the mission perimeters to find the torus in both missions, only to be confronted with a map that won't say still and a torus that can't be found and two missions with no logic to them at all.

Why only two separate missions with the same torus mission in them, is that really worth the Developers time and effort to do this or are they incapable of thinking of having separate unconnected missions, no thought went into GOH.

If there is any chance i could get my money back on the GOH DLC i would grab the opportunity to do so.

I'M DONE.
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JESS 246 wrote: Tue, 23. Mar 21, 17:24
I HAVE GIVEN UP LOOKING FOR THE TORUS,
not sure, what is the issue, but Torus is right there, inside normal sector space, there is no need to look for it far in the dark
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Just to point out that nowhere in your original Tech Sp issue report post, nor in the thread title, do you mention not being able to find the Torus. Hence the confusion over what you are actually reporting.
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Alan Phipps wrote: Tue, 23. Mar 21, 19:20 Just to point out that nowhere in your original Tech Sp issue report post, nor in the thread title, do you mention not being able to find the Torus. Hence the confusion over what you are actually reporting.
Are you joking, It's stated in the title MAP and that i was referring too what on earth is wrong with the map so i cut it down a size as it refers to the SOL sectors and i did say that Earths sector was the worse and have repeated the Map issue throughout so you did not read the posts.

I was reporting that the Sol sectors keep changing size and though i have looked all over the Earth sector that keep getting bigger and bigger and could not reach the boarder edge hence i could not find the Torus, i was told in another thread on another sight the Torus was north towards earth near the border and as i could not get to the boarder i could not find the Torus.

Most map i travel across are about 3-5 thousand Km from boarder too boarder, Earth sector i've traveled 10,000 Km and not touching any boarder edge, i have never had this issue before and now having it since GOH and patch 4.0 (what i said at the start) no other sector outside Sol do the bigger not reaching edges thing and the only zooming is when i zoom in/out on the map.

The Earth sector that keeps changing size as seen in the pictures the first is where i marked to the boarder some 2500 Km and on traveling the 2500 km to the boarder and checking map for next move I saw I was still in the middle of the sector as seen in second picture, again here's the link "https://www.dropbox.com/sh/ghgleluoyesf ... e1gwa?dl=0". (This is why i gave up)
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Shuulo wrote: Tue, 23. Mar 21, 18:50
JESS 246 wrote: Tue, 23. Mar 21, 17:24
I HAVE GIVEN UP LOOKING FOR THE TORUS,
not sure, what is the issue, but Torus is right there, inside normal sector space, there is no need to look for it far in the dark
Thank you for the screenshot to where Torus is it will be a great help maybe I will have another go sometime.

Though I've searched that general area and mostly all earths sector well what i can search three times now, but do to the map keeping changing it's size i could not find the Torus.

I did another thread on this and all i got was the Torus was near the planet Earth north of map at the boarder, so with you picture i now have a better chance of finding it if i have another go at it.

Thank you very much.
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I've been getting all sorts of bugs with the map. From stations apearing waaaaaaaaaay off the boarders of the map, to fog of war extending far past the border of the sector, to not being able to see any fog of war, to the map not zooming out when you go near a border.
Just... another... bug.
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Re: What on Earth is wrong, MAP - Explained.

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It doesn't sound like your problems are related to the OP's. Please create your own thread and provide the information requested at the top of the forum, preferably including an unmodified savegame demonstrating the problem.

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