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Black82
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Post by Black82 »

How else we can call it, this Tag.. for X3 pointless, for X4 and the upcoming Vulture Feature ESSENTIAL !

So for modding, how to get this Tag out of my Savegame ?!

Created a Mod, edited the Gamefiles, Boom "Modified".....
As far i know the "modified" Tag comes from the <signature> line from the Savefile.. but.
Why the Hell (^^) is this stuff still needed since X2 ?!!!111

@Egosoft,
I searched since X2 to X4(!)
Give me a possibility to remove that "Modified" nonsence from my 40+h Savefile !111
I just opened it external, look into it to learn, switched some values, REVERTED them to default, and save it as original with the same values !111

So boom, 40+h are destroyed because i want to look how things work in X4 (No Save Backup, DAMN MY FAULT).

SO please, how do i remove that stupid (GAME CHANGING TAG FOR VENTURES @X4 FROM THIS FILE?)

I know Egosoft want to be Moding Friendly, but with that.. NO GO, Steam Workshop = No GO. Any Mod that edit Game behaviors will cause that "Modified" Tag.
Im a Modder since 10 Years ! (Skyrim, Oblivion, Fallout, X2-X3, Xcom etc.) ...
But with this Tag i cant release anything !

This. Is. Not. Mod Support, dear Egosoft.
When i add a new Ship model to the game (Star Trek Galxy Class), the game says modified !
Its a SP Game, so PLEASE remove that Tag FINALY ^^
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Does the tag even do anything right now?
It certainly hasn't been blocking me from getting Steam achievements at least.
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Aside from the venture feature which is so far not even officially confirmed by Ego, except for the stuff modders found, the MODIFIED tag does absolutely nothing. It simply indicates that this save has mod content.
So therefore saying that 40+h are destroyed is kinda ridicilous.

And yes, this is mod support. Also even if ventures will be a feature, it seems that so far its nothing essential to the game.
The economy, combat and everything else totally work without Ventures, don't they(Well if you factor out the bugs and game design decisions xD)?

In previous titles modified only indicated a modded save and uploading via Uplink didn't gave you forum medals.
***modified*** 4 life!
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are you serious dude, you mod your game and savefiles without backup!!!!
you asked for it.
RULE NR1..... BACKUP your files
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Black82
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25% of that answers reminds me on Steamforums... wow^^
It s pointless that i dont backup my files (i just start a new one^^) and i **** on Archivements !
And its also pointless that the modified tag does nothing at the moment !

Its a fact right now that it will BLOCK access to the ventrue module right now and its still part of the game ppl may want to enjoy also with mods.
So right now, at this state, Mods will BLOCK Features of the Game !

I find Treads from more then 10 YEARS who want to get this Tag away because its a SP Game.



So its pointless for you, if you build modules for high costs at your PHQ that you cant use because you downloaded a mod who you like ?
Then be happy with your Modified Tag who maybe just improves Autotrading or adds a bundle of new Ships to your Game !

"Who i downloaded a Ship Model/Improved Autotraders and now i cant access Gamefeatures" "I USED THE STEAM WORKSHOP!" <- O.k. for u ? Then it seems the wrong place here for you^^


I ask to take that Tag away, or a way to do that, so ALL ppl can enjoy the game for 100% and not just 80-90% !
(And yes i know at the moment we cant access ventrues officialy, it may change on developement. And i hope on this way it will also be a point for modded games!)
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Post by Wellenbrecher »

If - IF - venture turns out to be what it seems to be right now, then the modified tag and the fact that it locks people out of it is inherently necessary though.
Be it simple cheating of resources and ultra rare components to become in some way OP, be it because sending modded things to others without said mod would potentially break said other person's game, etc pp.

If it in any way ends up connecting two worlds played it by two different people then there needs to be a clear distinction between vanilla and modified or the whole premise falls flat. It's locking you out of a part of the game to make said part of the game possible to begin with.

It's the very same reason why MODIFIED saves can never ever be allowed to grant medals on upload for the other games. It's self-evident I would've thought.
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I hope they dont add that "Ladder - Upload - Thingy", because, yes, with a modded game it is possible to get OP (Depends on the Mod) ^^
Me personaly dont care about any Ladder... at X3 i asked myself already: "Why, just why?"

We dont know how this Venture feature will work but it should also be possible with modded games or just ignore this Tag.
There should be nothing that blocks features of the game when you use mods... EVEN^^ What about that Steam Workshop option ?
Nearly everyone will have a "Modified" Game, because all that shiny mods will jump in your face at the Steamoverlay.. and you just have to hit a button to install it^^

So i guess this tag is just pointless, and its also not needed that the game or something in background will place this nonsence into a savegame to mark it as modified:

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Or where ever this damn tag is "Brandmarked" ^^
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You said you reverted things in the save file. Have you tried creating a new save and adding some of your progress to a new save? New save won't have modified tag.
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I just added a Custom Logo and I got this inscription.
50 hours of play in the trash!
I ask the developers to correct this annoying misunderstanding.
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Post by euclid »

Strange, I have a custom logo, serval (own) mods runnig, the "-prefersinglefiles" command parameter and ofc my saved games are tagged *modified*. However, if I disable all my mods (remove them form the extensions folder), remove the one command parameter (still got a few others like the debug and showfps) and then start X4, none of my saved games are modified anymore.

And, as it has been mentioned here already, the only disadvantage of a modified game is the venture feature (meaning you can't send your ships but still receive visitors) which is not yet fully official anyway. ;-)

Cheers Euclid
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Re: *MODIFIED*

Post by PedroPlomer »

Hola:

He leído lo de que sale MODIFICADO y creo que puede ser por los atributos del archivo a modificar. Para modificarlo hay que quitar el atributo de <solo lectura>.
Después se vuelve a marcar como <solo lectura> y el MODIFICADO desaparece.

Un saludo.
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Re: *MODIFIED*

Post by Rei Ayanami »

Leon1010 wrote: Fri, 23. Oct 20, 20:12 I just added a Custom Logo and I got this inscription.
50 hours of play in the trash!
I ask the developers to correct this annoying misunderstanding.
You should post a report about this in the technical support subforums
viewforum.php?f=180
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