Update 3.10 + 3.20 Beta 3 now available

[lixlix]

Code: Select all

[Beta 2] Removed use of cargo drones for direct trade between nearby stations.
[Beta 2] Removed Explore order from list of available behaviours.

A pity, those "bugs" were useful

Cargod Drones
Tried to get the cargodrones working for weeks.
Finally I gave up.

It seems this behaviour of cargo drones between different stations or statons and build storages is very different for many users.
See this thread for example.

So I think it's better to implemet it safely or remove it...


Exploring

Code: Select all

[Beta 2] Changed Explore order to end when all map hexes in its search radius have been discovered.
[Beta 2] Removed Explore order from list of available behaviours.
[Beta 2] Fixed queued-up Explore orders completing without having explored.
 

The behaviour explore is removed but the order still exists.
Choose a ship, rightclick inside the sector and choose explore.

For me, the single manual order makes more sense than the default behaviour.
When a sector is explored there is no reason for the ship to continue exploring..

[leoriq]

So I think it's better to implemet it safely or remove it...

Removing features because some people don't know how to use them is quite strange...

[BrasatoAlBarolo]

So I think it's better to implemet it safely or remove it...

Removing features because some people don't know how to use them is quite strange...

It's not that, it wasn't working as intended. For instance, drones were too slow to deliver wares between stations and were reserving large quantities of goods, which wasn't economically viable (from faction perspective). "Explore" default behaviour didn't make much sense.

[CBJ]

As I explained in another thread:

The problem with nearby stations using cargo drones was that they were almost completely ineffective. Their small size and slow speed meant that the transfer of goods could take hours; a job that could be done far more quickly and effectively even by a single ship. Rather than tying up cargo drones doing this highly inefficient task, and in the process making both them and the wares they were supposed to be transporting unavailable for other things, we decided it was better to stop them entirely.

[leoriq]

Oh, I haven't seen that. Given these points, removal seems reasonable!

[lixlix]

So I think it's better to implemet it safely or remove it...

Removing features because some people don't know how to use them is quite strange...

Don't get me wrong, I agree completely!

But in serval conversations on Steam, Youtube and here, nobody was able to explain how to get this work.
Much people got random results ( seemed so...)

Maybe you got the trick, let us know

[werewolves?]

So it looks like the ability to apply paint mods from one ship to another has been removed. Thanks for the fix...

[mr.WHO]

Can someone explain this:

Fixed HQ Research Module not being named correctly in certain gamestarts.
Fixed HQ Research Module being removed when loading construction plan.


What is the HQ Research Module?

[lixlix]

Part of to main story.

Attention spoiler:

Spoiler

Show

It's a pre built module inside the headquarter station for the player. You can use the lift inside the station to travel to the research module.

[BrasatoAlBarolo]

Can someone explain this:

Fixed HQ Research Module not being named correctly in certain gamestarts.
Fixed HQ Research Module being removed when loading construction plan.


What is the HQ Research Module?

I'm giving you a hint, just a little one:

Spoiler

Show

shrimp

[mr.WHO]

It's module?
I thought it's just the room inside HQ, like Bar in other stations.

[CBJ]

No, it's an actual station module.

[mr.WHO]

No, it's an actual station module.

Is this is the "HQ core" - in my game it's called unknown module:
https://steamcommunity.com/sharedfiles/ ... 2117913150

[Tilen]

One of these days, Holy Bernd will bless us with "- New Feature: NPC factions now use ships sold to them", I just know it.

Praise the Holy Bernd! Praise Egosoft!

[mr.WHO]

One of these days, Holy Bernd will bless us with "- New Feature: NPC factions now use ships sold to them", I just know it.

Yeah, I'm waiting for this too - this would actually increase player impact on war effort, but I think military jobs logic would need to be re-written.

[Raptor34]

One of these days, Holy Bernd will bless us with "- New Feature: NPC factions now use ships sold to them", I just know it.

Yeah, I'm waiting for this too - this would actually increase player impact on war effort, but I think military jobs logic would need to be re-written.

Only as long as you can chose, when I want to dispose of ships I don't want litter.

[CBJ]

Given that this is a former sticky thread that has been superseded by a new one, and that the current discussion has little or nothing to do with the original topic, I'm going to lock it. Feel free to start a new thread to continue the unrelated discussion.