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CBJ wrote: Fri, 11. Jan 19, 19:45
abisha1980 wrote: Fri, 11. Jan 19, 19:24 Why o Why are GoG users alway's being threated like cattle no Beta on GoG web-store of course

is it not the devs side to supply GoG updates? or deliver them via a weblink on their own site.
ridiculous.
The Beta is on GOG as well. Instructions on how to access it are right here.
yea see it, not a fan of installing launchers to update my videogames like Galaxy i guess it's one of the reasons people buy their title at GoG in the first place.
also keep in mind that i read some comments on GoG that some people are rubbed wrong about the venture they feel like it's a DRM which they might have a point.
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DRM discussion split from Patch notes X4 Foundation 1.51 Beta

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abisha1980 wrote: Fri, 11. Jan 19, 19:58
CBJ wrote: Fri, 11. Jan 19, 19:45
abisha1980 wrote: Fri, 11. Jan 19, 19:24 Why o Why are GoG users alway's being threated like cattle no Beta on GoG web-store of course

is it not the devs side to supply GoG updates? or deliver them via a weblink on their own site.
ridiculous.
The Beta is on GOG as well. Instructions on how to access it are right here.
yea see it, not a fan of installing launchers to update my videogames like Galaxy i guess it's one of the reasons people buy their title at GoG in the first place.
also keep in mind that i read some comments on GoG that some people are rubbed wrong about the venture they feel like it's a DRM which they might have a point.

Take the tinfoil hat off.
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abisha1980 wrote: Fri, 11. Jan 19, 19:58
CBJ wrote: Fri, 11. Jan 19, 19:45
abisha1980 wrote: Fri, 11. Jan 19, 19:24 Why o Why are GoG users alway's being threated like cattle no Beta on GoG web-store of course

is it not the devs side to supply GoG updates? or deliver them via a weblink on their own site.
ridiculous.
The Beta is on GOG as well. Instructions on how to access it are right here.
yea see it, not a fan of installing launchers to update my videogames like Galaxy i guess it's one of the reasons people buy their title at GoG in the first place.
also keep in mind that i read some comments on GoG that some people are rubbed wrong about the venture they feel like it's a DRM which they might have a point.
How can it be a DRM if you can disable it ? also installing mods or being "modified" does not give you access to ventures only
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abisha1980 wrote: Fri, 11. Jan 19, 19:58 yea see it, not a fan of installing launchers to update my videogames like Galaxy i guess it's one of the reasons people buy their title at GoG in the first place.
Guess you will have to wait for the official release of the update and hope someone uploads the patch separately at some point.
also keep in mind that i read some comments on GoG that some people are rubbed wrong about the venture they feel like it's a DRM which they might have a point.
Then you need to reply to those comments saying that they are being completely and utterly ridiculous. Ventures are optional, the game can be played offline so quite how Ventures are DRM is beyond me.
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MaGicBush wrote: Fri, 11. Jan 19, 20:12 Take the tinfoil hat off.
Way to go. Insinuate someone`s crazy for speculation. I do not believe it`s DRM, cos you can play Offline (I mean completely disconnected from the net) with no issues at all so far. But I hate it when someone tries to shame another this way.
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Socratatus wrote: Fri, 11. Jan 19, 20:32
MaGicBush wrote: Fri, 11. Jan 19, 20:12 Take the tinfoil hat off.
Way to go. Insinuate someone`s crazy for speculation. I do not believe it`s DRM, cos you can play Offline (I mean completely disconnected from the net) with no issues at all so far. But I hate it when someone tries to shame another this way.
Well then they shouldn't act paranoid. Why would they use ventures as drm? That makes no sense.
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MaGicBush wrote: Fri, 11. Jan 19, 20:45
Socratatus wrote: Fri, 11. Jan 19, 20:32
MaGicBush wrote: Fri, 11. Jan 19, 20:12 Take the tinfoil hat off.
Way to go. Insinuate someone`s crazy for speculation. I do not believe it`s DRM, cos you can play Offline (I mean completely disconnected from the net) with no issues at all so far. But I hate it when someone tries to shame another this way.
Well then they shouldn't act paranoid. Why would they use ventures as drm? That makes no sense.
one of the complaints on GoG.

WARNING! Not really DRM-free.

December 23, 2018
Egosoft account, registration of game’s key (as an equivalent for linking of Steam account) and internet connection are REQUIRED for access to several core-features. Since patch 1.5 “ventures” are added. While they presented as completely optional “pseudo-multiplayer” activities, they are the only way to get certain in-game items/gameplay options without the use of cheats and/or exploits. They are also the only reliable way for crew leveling, which is extremely slow without this “optional content” (more than week of non-stop gameplay is not enough to level-up NPC to “5-stars”, and there are dozens or even hundreds of NPCs in player’s fleet). Combined with introduction of “EgoCredits” it leads to concerns about microtransactions for “time savers”. Those activities were coded in game before (they were discovered in game files at the first day and achievement for them was on steam from the beginning), but were added only 3 weeks later. Presumably to circumvent “no DRM, single-player game” limitations.


I never personal try it but their is truth to this you need to be on-line to use ventures and getting your ship painting. (so sort of DRM)
as for his other points like the stars can be frustrating it's takes indeed years to level them up. as for his EgoCredits it's a whole other topic.
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Oh please! Yes, you have to be registered and online if you want to use a game's 'online features' since that is what 'online' means - or just turn it off or don't enable it if you don't want to use them and hence that's hardly a DRM. Anyway, we don't discuss DRM here.

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