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Post by Oldman »

Well, i'd just got in from work, changed clothes, booted up the computer and went straight away to the 'creative section' of the forum.

B****y good job I'd got a pint of strong cider in me mit whilst reading this.....(steady's me nerves :wink: )

You don't skimp none on the run up to the final showdown, do you? :o
I'll be sending you the doctors bill if you keep this up! :D

*cough*...good read again btw. :)

Oldman :)
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Final part of the final book in the trilogy, finally finished, :D
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Post by KiwiNZ »

WoooHooooo :thumb_up:

What a finale! Excellent work Steve! Ouch re the collision. I like the fight between Max and Law. Remembering that he hass no hand gun anymore when it is too late is just so well chosen to get the enotions and the adrinaline in his blood across to the reader! That really is a great finish to the story ... with a bl***y cliffhanger again :twisted: Great ending of a great story.

Looking forward to the next installment :lol:

I for sure will miss Rogue's! Stick to the writing, it'd be a waste of great talent if you didn't!

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Post by Gandalf The White »

wow, for once Steve, I'm totally speechless.
are we going to see another book a little further ahead? I really don't know what to say to that.
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Post by SteveMill »

Thanks for the spot K, thanks everyone else.

Yes - I'm continuing writing. They sort of expect it on the course. :wink:

I'm working on two main things - a Vietnam War supernatural novella and a high fantasy swords and magic type novel. The former is half finished but I've only done one chapter of the latter as Rogue and other course work (much to my surprise I have a bunch of poems and haiku's in my portfolio. Not very good ones but Year 2 Undergraduate standards are not that high).

I've left open the possibility for "Rogues (I really have no idea if the plural possessive demands a ' but it looks ugly on a book cover) Return" as a long short story.

Lord Sauron - your email is on its way.

The Revenge pdf on my site will be updated later today.
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Post by Mercenary »

Great finish and open enough, if you should find the time, for another series. As always without a body people will always wonder if he really died but that just builds on the myth and something that Jackson is obviously aware of.

Looking forward to reading more of your work when you get the opportunity to publish. :wink:
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I think I'll have to start reading them all again now it's all complete.
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Lord Souron wrote:I think I'll have to start reading them all again now it's all complete.
And then you'll be left speechless by the number of sub-plots abandoned, characters you never hear from again and plot threads left hanging! :)
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As a general question - would you have liked the ending to have been extended with another scene that explained the why's and wherefore's of Max's hinted survival or are you happy to have it left a mystery?

I originally planned to have the Epilogue in Chapter 28 and an Epilogue as above but felt that emotionally it was better to give a cathartic resolution to the Max/Law thing, leave the question of the alien ship necessarily unanswered by the evolving circumstances of the universe, and then right at the end, lift the reader up with an ending that suggests the endless cycle of things - Max et al picking up Artur's torch.

I guess it's a matter of taste in the end. Mystery or certainty.
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Post by FourFingers »

A sort of sadness decends upon the ending of every tale for me and its the same here. Great stuff!!

As to your question for me personaly this kind of sums it up..

"I would rather live in a world where my life is surrounded by mystery than live in a world so small that my mind could comprehend it."

not sure who said it but i love to think theres more going on then i know, even without the last line i'd be thinking.."well he could be alive, no one saw him kick the bucket and the man is very astute in declining deaths invatations!" :)

thanks for some great reads!!
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SteveMill wrote:As a general question - would you have liked the ending to have been extended with another scene that explained the why's and wherefore's of Max's hinted survival or are you happy to have it left a mystery?

I originally planned to have the Epilogue in Chapter 28 and an Epilogue as above but felt that emotionally it was better to give a cathartic resolution to the Max/Law thing, leave the question of the alien ship necessarily unanswered by the evolving circumstances of the universe, and then right at the end, lift the reader up with an ending that suggests the endless cycle of things - Max et al picking up Artur's torch.

I guess it's a matter of taste in the end. Mystery or certainty.
I thoroughly enjoyed it as is, it leaves enough to the imagination to picture what may have happened, working IP drive, Face job needed for a friend.

It is for me a conclusive enough ending, Law is dead and Max is not, not in my mind anyway and that final battle with him and Law was excellent it was very satifying to see Law beamed out into vacuum.

Then again the "Mystery or certainty" ending should really rest with you and wether you want it open enough to continue at some future date, or if you want it finalised (though i've no doubt you have the imagination to reopen the story at any time).

I will thank you now for some great reading, its been a very entertaining pleasure seeing this develop and grow and I will be looking forward to more from you, wether it's in this universe or not and I will also be hoping that the entire trilogy gets into print as i'd love to have them all in book form (most likely anything else you should get published too).
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SteveMill wrote:As a general question - would you have liked the ending to have been extended with another scene that explained the why's and wherefore's of Max's hinted survival or are you happy to have it left a mystery?

I originally planned to have the Epilogue in Chapter 28 and an Epilogue as above but felt that emotionally it was better to give a cathartic resolution to the Max/Law thing, leave the question of the alien ship necessarily unanswered by the evolving circumstances of the universe, and then right at the end, lift the reader up with an ending that suggests the endless cycle of things - Max et al picking up Artur's torch.

I guess it's a matter of taste in the end. Mystery or certainty.
I like it the way it is.

Steve, its been a pleasure reading your trilogy over all this time. You're writing is in another league from what it was when you started. The Rogue trilogy has given countless hours of entertainment and probably more in pain, waiting for the next installment.

In a way I hope you do write Rogues Return but in others I dont. Its like the end of an Era. Either way I'm happy and if you even need more proof reading (regardless of genre), you know where to find me.

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Post by KiwiNZ »

SteveMill wrote:As a general question - ...
I do like the ending as it is. Though, my imgination is going crazy plotting out possible continuations. Very well-chosen! :thumb_up:
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Post by Faze »

Brilliant Steve.

Hope we dont have to wait too long for Episode 2.

And no more bloody cliffhangers.

See you later.

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Post by thrangar »

Moss wrote:
I will thank you now for some great reading, its been a very entertaining pleasure seeing this develop and grow and I will be looking forward to more from you, wether it's in this universe or not and I will also be hoping that the entire trilogy gets into print as i'd love to have them all in book form (most likely anything else you should get published too).

Could not have said better myself ,and I too hope the trilogy gets printed in a complete bookform.


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Post by SteveMill »

Thanks for the feedback, glad you prefer that ending, artistically, it seemed the most satisfying, trying to evoke mixed emotions.

For what it's worth, the Afterword would have shown
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the Xenon did not engage Max's forces, presumably because the Raiders had fought the khaak - the enemy of my enemy - thus neatly explaining why there was a clan station in that Xenon sector in XT.
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SteveMill wrote:
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the Xenon did not engage Max's forces, presumably because the Raiders had fought the khaak - the enemy of my enemy - thus neatly explaining why there was a clan station in that Xenon sector in XT.
This just totally sucks!!! How shall I now engage Xenons and not feel bad about them after their display of decency? :evil: ;)
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KiwiNZ wrote:
SteveMill wrote:
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the Xenon did not engage Max's forces, presumably because the Raiders had fought the khaak - the enemy of my enemy - thus neatly explaining why there was a clan station in that Xenon sector in XT.
This just totally sucks!!! How shall I now engage Xenons and not feel bad about them after their display of decency? :evil: ;)
It's naked self-interest on their part so its okay to whack them still :)
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Post by Gandalf The White »

Well you can't just leave Jack there, you got to continue the story now lol.
Who's in agreement. your fault for leaving us with another clifhanger!!!lol.
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