How to stop SETA from deactivating?

Warhammer: 3025 · Post by **Warhammer: 3025** » Sun, 17. Jul 11, 22:32

I'd like to alt-tab out of the game and let time pass, but whenever I press a button, the SETA system turns off. How can I engage SETA and still alt-tab to browse the web or whatever?

Turiko · Post by **Turiko** » Sun, 17. Jul 11, 23:04

hm, did you set any controls on tab? Personally i alt-tab regularly for short periods, and the only thing that happens is the zoom thingy. That doesn't stop SETA

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Warhammer: 3025 · Post by **Warhammer: 3025** » Sun, 17. Jul 11, 23:08

Both Alt and Tab are unbound.

Post by **CBJ** » Sun, 17. Jul 11, 23:32

You need to be careful how you perform the key combination. Make sure you press Alt before Tab and keep holding it down until after Tab is released. If at any point in the process Tab is held down on its own, SETA will assume that it is intended as keyboard input and disengage.

Warhammer: 3025 · Post by **Warhammer: 3025** » Sun, 17. Jul 11, 23:36

It doesn't seem to matter which button is pressed first. Pressing Alt deactivates SETA, as does pressing Tab. Pressing both at the same time has the same effect.

Turiko · Post by **Turiko** » Mon, 18. Jul 11, 00:50

Warhammer: 3025 wrote:Both Alt and Tab are unbound.

Not on mine, and the only thing i changed is to fire missiles with another button

Post by **CBJ** » Mon, 18. Jul 11, 01:07

Also make sure your game is patched to the latest version.

Snafu_X3 · Post by **Snafu_X3** » Mon, 18. Jul 11, 01:55

It's nice to do this once in a while, but SETA can really screw things up, especially while you're not watching. Just leave the m/c running overnight with 'run in background' turned on & it'll achieve a similar effect, with your screensaver & power-saving settings unaffected (as the game is mostly CPU-bound rather than disc intensive)

glenmcd · Post by **glenmcd** » Mon, 18. Jul 11, 02:00

I have verified that both left alt and tab are unbound, by temporarily binding each one (and then cancelling), and checking for the conflict warning. SETA disengages the moment I press left alt, so regardless of what comes after that, the damage is already done. One additional thing that happens is that at times when I accidently let go of alt before tab, my ship starts moving forward, as if I had increase accelerator. Considering that "full accelerator" is bound to tilde key and no longer tab, this looks like a bug to me.
I've never been able to change the focus away from TC without disengaging SETA. I did however stop TC from doing the unwanted video enhancement by changing the hotkey to right alt. As I use two monitors and sometimes wish to do something in a different app while SETA is engaged, the inability to do this is quite annoying. Thanks to OP for raising the subject.

Triaxx2 · Post by **Triaxx2** » Mon, 18. Jul 11, 02:03

Have you tried right-alt instead of left?

glenmcd · Post by **glenmcd** » Mon, 18. Jul 11, 04:07

Triaxx2 wrote:Have you tried right-alt instead of left?

Tried it just now, same result.
If you can alt-tab out without disengaging SETA, can you send me your profile file for me to try please? PM me for an email address.
Another solution that I haven't tried yet is to use "Macro Toolworks" to change focus without "officially" pressing any keys. That said I'd still need to press a key to do it, but it would be "eaten" by MT.

Slashman · Post by **Slashman** » Mon, 18. Jul 11, 04:20

If you look in the options IIRC, there is actually a toggle for making SETA stay engaged while alt-tabbing. Check the gameplay settings and you should find it.

As others have said though, use at your own risk.

diabloz · Post by **diabloz** » Mon, 18. Jul 11, 04:32

Sorry for hijacking the thread but in my game, whenever I press and hold Strafe buttons (a,s,w,d) the ships always performs a full brake, I have tried removing the controls for all strafe buttons and re-added them to no effect. IIRC, the last time I played (2 years ago) this does not happen. Anyone know why?

glenmcd · Post by **glenmcd** » Mon, 18. Jul 11, 05:20

Slashman wrote:If you look in the options IIRC, there is actually a toggle for making SETA stay engaged while alt-tabbing. Check the gameplay settings and you should find it.

As others have said though, use at your own risk.

Yes got it working! The option in there is "Run game in background" with no mention of SETA. But of course it is required. Left alt is not good enough, it needs to be right alt. So in my case I'd need to swap my video enhancement goggles back to the default, left tab. Thanks for your help!

Warhammer: 3025 · Post by **Warhammer: 3025** » Mon, 18. Jul 11, 08:15

Still no luck on my end. As soon as I press a button (any button) SETA deactivates. I already activated the "run game in background" option, and have unbound both Alt keys and the Tab key.

Frustrating.

Post by **CBJ** » Mon, 18. Jul 11, 10:14

Just to confirm, this is X3TC you're talking about, right? This may well not work in X3R and almost certainly doesn't work in any of the games released prior to that.

Warhammer: 3025 · Post by **Warhammer: 3025** » Mon, 18. Jul 11, 20:03

Yes. I have X3:TR from the Summer Steam Sale.

IAnarchyI · Post by **IAnarchyI** » Mon, 18. Jul 11, 20:33

I found this out after a lot of trial and error: Bind alt and tab to the video enhancement goggles key, make sure they're not bound to anything else , and now whenever you alt tab seta should continue running. It works because the video enhancement button is the only button that doesn't disable seta.

The same method works if you want to use steam overlay while in game and leave seta running while you use it. Just change your steam overlay shortcut to something different, then bind the keys you use for the shortcut in the control menu to use the video enhancement button then change the overlay shortcut back.

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How to stop SETA from deactivating?

How to stop SETA from deactivating?