Supply and Demand Trade Chart

[donotdespisethesnake]

I've noticed "errors" also. According to the spread sheet to produce Delaxian wheat you need energy and Bogas. I only need energy to produce Wheat, but when I inspect an NPC Wheat farm it list Bogas as a secondary resource. Do player owned and NPC owned station have different resource requirements? I can't do the research myself as I only have a wheat farm and a silicon mine.

NPC and Player owned are different, Player owned never require secondary resources, some of the Primaries are different. I did a chart for Player owned stations here http://www.geocities.com/donotdespiseth ... ceTree.pdf Also done with OpenOffice, it's great! The source is an OpenOffice presentation but I can't put it on geocities.

[XcrazyX]

SUPERB!!!

[klaatu]

I posted something like this (only much, much simpler and with much less detail) back for X2, and most of it holds true for X3 as well, so thought some might like to see it again. It's mainly to get an overview of the whole production chain so I myself could better understand the relationships between the products.

I've left out Energy Cells (EC) from the production chain almost totally, notably because it's a bit redundant, since everything needs it in whatever is being produced (except ECs themselves), so just assume it's there anyway. Hopefully the format is self-explanatory.

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0th-tier factories (only needs Crystals):

Solar Power Plant -> Energy Cells (All)
    Crystals

1st-tier factories (only needs Energy Cells):

[Minerals]
Ore Mine -> Ore (All)
Silicon Mine -> Silicon Wafers (All)
Teladianium foundry -> Teladianium (Teladi)

[Base Foods]
Cattle Farm -> Argu Beef (Argon)
Bio Gas -> BoGas (Boron)
Soyfarm -> Soja Beans (Paranid)
Chelt Space Aquarium -> Chelts Meat (Split)
Flower Farm -> Sunrise Flowers (Teladi)

[Base Goods]
Wheat Farm -> Wheat (Argon)
Plankton Farm -> Plankton (Boron)
Snail Ranch -> Maja Snails (Paranid)
Scruffin Farm -> Scruffin Fruits (Split)
Dream Farm -> Swamp Plant (Teladi)

2nd-tier factories (needs 1 1st-teir product):

[Primary Foods]
Cahoona Bakery -> Meatsteaks (Argon)
    Argu Beef
BoFu Chemical Lab -> BoFu (Boron)
    BoGas
Soyery -> Soja Husk (Paranid)
    Soja Beans
Rastar Refinery -> Rastar Oil (Split)
    Chelts Meat
Sunoil Refinery -> Nostrop Oil (Teladi)
    Sunrise Flowers

[Processed Goods]
Rimes Fact -> Cloth Rimes (Argon)
    Wheat
Space Fuel Distillery -> Space Fuel (Argon)
    Wheat
Stott Mixery -> Stott Spices (Boron)
    Plankton
Space Jewellery -> Majalit (Paranid)
    Maja Snails
Massom Mill -> Massom powder (Split)
    Scruffin Fruits
Bliss Place -> Space weed (Teladi)
    Swamp Plant

3rd-tier factories (needs 2 or more 1st or 2nd-tier products):

Crystal Fab -> Crystals (All)
    [Primary Food]
    Silicon Wafers
Quantum Tube Fab -> Quantum Tubes (All)
    [Primary Food]
    Ore
    Silicon Wafers
Chip Plant -> Microchips (Paranid/Boron)
    [Primary Food]
    Silicon Wafers
Computer Plant -> Computer Components (Argon/Split)
    [Primary Food]
    Ore
    Silicon Wafers
Weapon Component -> Warheads (Paranid/Split)
    [Primary Food]
    Ore
    Cloth Rimes (Argon)

Ship Equipment, etc. factories:

LaserTower (Split/Boron)
    [Primary Food]
    Ore
Mobile Drilling System/SQUASH Mines (Paranid/Teladi)
    [Primary Food]
    Ore
Drones (Aron/Boron/Split)
    [Primary Food]
    Silicon Wafers
    Massom Powder
All Satellites (Argon/Boron)
    [Primary Food]
    Silicon Wafers
    Majaglit
All Weapons/Most Shields (Various)
    [Primary Food]
    Ore
25 MW Shields (Split)
    Rastar Oil
    Ore
All Missles (Various)
    [Primary Food]
    Ore
    Silicon Wafers

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[Foods]
Argon:   Cattle Farm -> Argu Beef -> Cahoona Bakery -> Meatsteaks
Boron:   Bio Gas -> BoGas -> BoFu Chemical Lab -> BoFu
Paranid: Soyfarm -> Soja Beans -> Soyery -> Soja Husk
Split:   Chelt Space Aquarium -> Chelts Meat -> Rastar Refinery -> Rastar Oil
Teladi:  Flower Farm -> Sunrise Flowers -> Sun Oil Refinery -> Nostrop Oil

[Goods]
Argon:   Wheat Farm -> Wheat -> (Rimes Fact -> Cloth Rimes | Space Fuel Distillery -> Space Fuel)
Boron:   Plankton Farm -> Plankton -> Stott Mixery -> Stott Spices
Paranid: Snail Ranch -> Maja Snails -> Space Jewellery -> Majalit
Split:   Scruffin Farm -> Scruffin Fruits -> Massom Mill -> Massom powder
Teladi:  Dream Farm -> Swamp Plant -> Bliss Place -> Space weed

I noticed some of this is different in X3. For instance, I see that the Argons now have a Lasertower factory available for purchase, so the exact races need updating, but I think the production chain itself is still accurate.

For old X veterans this info is probably old hat, but when I was just getting into X2 I could find nothing like it. It sure helped me understand what all the different products were and what they were used for.

HTH

[Fluff]

I did a chart for Player owned stations here http://www.geocities.com/donotdespiseth ... ceTree.pdf.

I'm just wondering how the food thing works. For instance, you've listed the SQUASH Mine Factory as being able to take either Soya Husk, Rastar Oil, or Nostrop Oil. This makes sense, since you can only buy SQUASH Mine Factories in Paranid, Split, or Teladi space. Does that pattern hold for all factories requiring food? Does the race that the factory comes from determine what food will be a necessary resource?

[klaatu]

Yes, I believe that is the case with all factories, as far as the food goes.

There are a few factories, like satellite factories for instance, that not only require the food of the race involved (Argon or Boron in this case), but the manufactured good of a specific race (Paranid in this case).

But for food, yes, I've always found that to be the case.

[Fluff]

Are Argon factories only located in Argon sectors? For example, I can place a Paranid weapons factory in Argon space. Are NPC factories given the same amount of freedom, or are they constrained to their race's sectors?

[MrJohnson]

Hey, thanks so much for this. I only have about 10 hours a week to try and figure this game out, and was on the verge of giving up until I found this file...
Why wasn't this info in the manual?!?!?!? There's a world of difference between "menial data entry" and "exploration and discovery".

[Showdown]

Thanks for all the work you've done on the charts! They have saved me a lot of time and brainache...my note taking ability is not so good

[Takhasis]

Bloody marvellous this. Just started spending a bit more time in X3 and this makes it so much easier for tradiing...

/salute

[Seismic_Edge]

Real nice work BUT...

Several errors in this sheet. One in particular. You say the Cahoona Bakery needs wheat to make meatsteak cahoonas. It totally screwed me up when I was trying to make my first complex. I put two large wheat farms right smack dab in the middle of it all.

It would be nice if you checked your facts before posting.

[Carl Sumner]

Don't forget that Player factories are different from NPC factories.

[Seismic_Edge]

Don't forget that Player factories are different from NPC factories.

His chart does not differentiate between NPC or player factories. In fact, it shows only one of each type. If I had known this was all about NPC factories and had little or nothing to do with players factories I would have known not to bother downloading it.

[tlitschel]

The link to download this chart is dead, so does anyone else have a copy of the suppy and demand charts? I had a ship of mine buy some scott spices or what ever those things are, and I don't know where to sell them off at.

[pjknibbs]

It's still downloadable from a link in the Guides sticky at the top of the forum. I'll lock this thread because it's a bit old, and as you rightly point out, the links in it no longer work.