Post your FPS & CPU's scores - instructions how to measure included - 5950x + 12900k + now 5800x3D!!

[Roeleveld]

Also, in case it matters:
OS: Linux (5.10.1 kernel)

Ah, I bet that's the reason. I'm on modern windows 10, which from what I understand can be around 5-10% slower than linux (or older versions of windows, even older win 10).

Thanks for the details. Now I can stop worrying that I bought poor memory.

Could be, although I wouldn't expect 5-10 % difference.
I would, however, suspect background processes like virus scanners and such causing issues.

[Buzz2005]

I can actually post win10 and linux same machine results, will do later today

[Imperial Good]

The Linux version of X4 has been known to perform better than the Windows one when people compared it on the same system. There are many possible reasons for this ranging from Linux being inherently faster all the way down to the Windows build possibly being less optimized for the platform. In any case comparing actual frame rates between the two does not accurately represent if the hardware of one system is faster than the other.

X4 is also quite demanding on the GPU. I use a GTX 760 and it really caps the frame rate.

[pref]

I'm curious what memory that is. In theory the 5950x should only be ~1% ahead of the 5900x, but your empty scene numbers are 10% better than my 5900x with 3600 16-19-19-39 memory.

I got no clue about exact memory timing values, but just changing the BIOS preset ('performance' vs default) got me from 120 to 140 fps. Matters quite a lot unless there are other bottlenecks.

[pref]

I had some of the poorest FPS scores for modern hardware with young gun & empty empire tests,

You had the strongest score i think. The dense save is best for CPU load test.

120 vs 160 fps wont matter in any way, you might be limited by whatever else (g/v/freesync or cpu/gpu powersave settings).

[Imperatorul]

So, I took the liberty to do some tests with the system I have.
I've used CapFrameX for saving the FPS.


Hardware:
CPU: AMD Ryzen 5800X @ stock
RAM: 64GB (2x32GB) 3600MHz (XMP) [CL 18-22-22-42]
GPU: Nvidia Geforce GTX 1080
GPU Driver version: 457.30
Motherboard: MSI MEG X570 ACE
X4 installed on drive E: (1TB M.2 SSD Samsung 970 Evo PCI-E 3.0)

Game version: 3.30 (416228)

Test 1:

Game settings

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Resolution: 2560 x 1440
AA: off
Display mode: full screen
VSync: off
Colour correction: off
Gamma: 100
Graphics quality: custom
Texture quality: high
Shadow: high
shoft shadow: on
SSAO: off
Glow effect: low
Chromatic aberration: on
Distortion effect: on
LOD: 100
Effect distance: 100
Radar: high
Screen space reflections: off

Save 1: Dense Empire/Empty space
FPS/sec
95% percentile: 175.5
Median: 155.7
Average: 100.6
5% percentile: 35.7
0.02% percentile: 25.9

Save 2: Young Gun
FPS/sec
95% percentile: 163.8
Median: 145.0
Average: 141.0
5% percentile: 119.2
0.02% percentile: 63.2

Save 3: Dense Empire
FPS/sec
95% percentile: 25.7
Median: 21.2
Average: 19.8
5% percentile: 13.5
0.02% percentile: 6.2

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Test 2:

Game settings

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Resolution: 2560 x 1440
AA: off
Display mode: full screen
VSync: off
Colour correction: off
Gamma: 100
Graphics quality: custom
Texture quality: low
Shadow: off
shoft shadow: off
SSAO: off
Glow effect: low
Chromatic aberration: off
Distortion effect: off
LOD: 100
Effect distance: 100
Radar: high
Screen space reflections: off

Save 1: Dense Empire/Empty space
FPS/sec
95% percentile: 170.7
Median: 150.7
Average: 104.6
5% percentile: 42.6
0.02% percentile: 23.9

Save 2: Young Gun
FPS/sec
95% percentile: 159.0
Median: 143.3
Average: 139.4
5% percentile: 117.3
0.02% percentile: 63.6

Save 3: Dense Empire
FPS/sec
95% percentile: 24.1
Median: 19.2
Average: 17.7
5% percentile: 12.4
0.02% percentile: 7.0

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Test 3:

Game settings

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Resolution: 2560 x 1440
AA: SSAA 4x
Display mode: full screen
VSync: off
Colour correction: off
Gamma: 100
Graphics quality: very high
Texture quality: high
Shadow: high
shoft shadow: on
SSAO: high
Glow effect: high
Chromatic aberration: on
Distortion effect: on
LOD: 100
Effect distance: 100
Radar: high
Screen space reflections: off

Save 1: Dense Empire/Empty space
FPS/sec
95% percentile: 71.9
Median: 53.8
Average: 51.5
5% percentile: 35.4
0.02% percentile: 23.0

Save 2: Young Gun
FPS/sec
95% percentile: 59.4
Median: 55.1
Average: 49.9
5% percentile: 36.4
0.02% percentile: 27.5

Save 3: Dense Empire
FPS/sec
95% percentile: 24.2
Median: 19.2
Average: 18.2
5% percentile: 12.7
0.02% percentile: 7.0

[Max Bain]

@Imperatorul: That looks like something on your system is wrong. I would have expected at least near 30 fps average in dense empire.

[Imperatorul]

Unfortunately, I don't see what could be wrong with my system. Also, I don't know from where others have got their fps numbers (ingame fps counter?), so I've decided to use an external tool to capture the fps. I believe the data I've got since it does feels also like ~24 fps in game in that dense empire save. The fps capture tool ran for 60 seconds and in that time I've moved the ship, went into the map with zoom in/out etc. just to get an objective and realistic result.

[Max Bain]

Unfortunately, I don't see what could be wrong with my system. Also, I don't know from where others have got their fps numbers (ingame fps counter?), so I've decided to use an external tool to capture the fps. I believe the data I've got since it does feels also like ~24 fps in game in that dense empire save. The fps capture tool ran for 60 seconds and in that time I've moved the ship, went into the map with zoom in/out etc. just to get an objective and realistic result.

I think you should not move your ship and dont open the map. Just watch. After 10 seconds you note your fps. Also you can show your in game fps when you activate that option in steam (that is for all steam games then).

[Gavrushka]

Imperatorul, you should be able to press ALT-R in game to get FPS if you've Nvidia Geforce Experience installed, and have it set up under 'settings'.

[Gavrushka]

I had some of the poorest FPS scores for modern hardware with young gun & empty empire tests,

You had the strongest score i think. The dense save is best for CPU load test.

120 vs 160 fps wont matter in any way, you might be limited by whatever else (g/v/freesync or cpu/gpu powersave settings).

I'd be happier with the Kudos of higher FPS in normal gameplay, but I think my CPU power settings did limit them in the test a little. - Thing was, I'd paid extra to have my PC optimised, and my CPU scored the same under Userbenchmarks as an average 10th Gen I9, so I was a bit disappointed. - Will try again with test when I get a moment.

[Roeleveld]

I use the FPS-display provided by X4 itself.
In the settings there is an option to bind a key (or combo) to show the FPS.

[Imperatorul]

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I think you should not move your ship and dont open the map. Just watch. After 10 seconds you note your fps. Also you can show your in game fps when you activate that option in steam (that is for all steam games then).

But isn't that unrealistic? I mean you don't play the game by just sitting in your ship without any move and map interactions.

Btw, perhaps this graph cold be interesting:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-D2SoT ... sp=sharing

I'll try one test with the dense empire with no move or map use.

[Max Bain]

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I think you should not move your ship and dont open the map. Just watch. After 10 seconds you note your fps. Also you can show your in game fps when you activate that option in steam (that is for all steam games then).

But isn't that unrealistic? I mean you don't play the game by just sitting in your ship without any move and map interactions.

Btw, perhaps this graph cold be interesting:
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1-D2SoT ... sp=sharing

I'll try one test with the dense empire with no move or map use.

That is not the point in a benchmark comparison. The more you move your view and do stuff others dont know and dont do exactly like you do, the less you can compare the results.

[Imperatorul]

I tested it again but this time with no move and no map use, just sitting in the ship.
Plus, I've enabled ingame fps counter and noted them too.

Game settings

Show

Resolution: 2560 x 1440
AA: off
Display mode: full screen
VSync: off
Colour correction: off
Gamma: 100
Graphics quality: low
[...]
Radar: high
Screen space reflections: off

Save 1: Dense Empire/Empty space
FPS/sec
95% percentile: 175.6
Median: 159.7
Average: 158.1
5% percentile: 140.5
0.02% percentile: 100.9
Ingame FPS: ~158

Save 2: Young Gun
FPS/sec
95% percentile: 165.5
Median: 151.4
Average: 150.7
5% percentile: 137.2
0.02% percentile: 116.2
Ingame FPS: ~151

Save 3: Dense Empire
FPS/sec
95% percentile: 26.0
Median: 23.3
Average: 22.9
5% percentile: 20.3
0.02% percentile: 10.8
Ingame FPS: ~23

[Max Bain]

You might have a lot of software running in the background (maybe virus?) or something is bad configured.
All drivers up to date?

I reach the same results for dense empire with my Ryzen 3600. You should get results close to the 5900x which are above 30 in average (see first post).

[Imperatorul]

Well, almost nothing is runnging in the background. The dense empire save is extremely CPU limited. I could check how the game use the CPU threads. The 5800X is a monolitic 8-core CPU die while the 5900X contains two 6-core CPUs dies, perhaps that could play a role.
Drivers and even the bios are up-to-date, only the GPU driver is from mid novermber.

[Max Bain]

Well, almost nothing is runnging in the background. The dense empire save is extremely CPU limited. I could check how the game use the CPU threads. The 5800X is a monolitic 8-core CPU die while the 5900X contains two 6-core CPUs dies, perhaps that could play a role.
Drivers and even the bios are up-to-date, only the GPU driver is from mid novermber.

X4 uses only 2 cores to its extremes, thats why 4 or 6 cores are all you need for the best performance as long as the single core performance is good and your CPU is nearly as good in single core performance than the 5900x or even the 5950x.
Have you deactivated all mods? Some can eat a lot of performance.

[Imperatorul]

I have no mods installed. Accoring the CPU usage, it seems X4 uses 4 threads (two cores). The 5900X has an higer boost than the 5800X.
I've checked your post with your test result and I see you tested with X4 version 4 beta 4 that seems to improve the CPU performance.

[Max Bain]

I have no mods installed. Accoring the CPU usage, it seems X4 uses 4 threads (two cores). The 5900X has an higer boost than the 5800X.
I've checked your post with your test result and I see you tested with X4 version 4 beta 4 that seems to improve the CPU performance.

That is true, but the second result in the list is the 5900x which should have just slightly (maybe 1-2 fps) more fps than yours. Its also in 3.3 and not the beta.