[Discussion] Generic X3TC S&M questions I

[jlehtone]

Post all the short and simple questions (not covered by existing threads) about scripting, modding, and MD in X3 Terran Conflict here.

There is now a separate thread: "What provides/causes feature/bug foo?" for collecting that subset of questions and answers.

There is now a separate thread: What S&M are recommended/"must have"? for collecting that subset of questions and answers into one convenient spot.


2010-03-11:
Part I closed. Part II is here.

[kevso]

Hi Guys,
firstly let me thank everyone involved in the making of X3TC for promises to be a fantastic game, so on to the question.....

I have noticed that there is no "director" folder, is the Mission Director included in X3:TC or do i have to added it like in X3:R? Also if it is already included how do i reset it.

Thanks

Kevso

[CBJ]

The director folder is buried inside one of the DAT files. If you create a new one then the game should still find the files, but they will only be read if you have enabled the Script Editor. However you still need to go rummaging in the DAT file as it seems the schema and other stuff used to help with editing and displaying MD files got buried in there too.

[kevso]

Excellent, thanks CBJ

Oh one more thing... is there new documentation for the MD?

Thanks

Kevso

[Flector]

Has anything changed regarding the 'loadtext' command, text xml file specs/location?
The way I did things in X3R does not seem to work in X3TC.
I'm not able to access the texts and get results like 'ReadText9999-5'.

Edit: Never mind, I already discovered it myself. Changing the filename from 449999.xml to 9999.xml did the trick.

[Cycrow]

the file names for textfiels have changed.

if you get my scripts you can see how the new system works.

but the files a now basically in the form of, XXXX-LXXX.xml

which is in the sticky btw

the first part is the text id, the second is the language

[LV]

a few from me

1. I'm getting xml errors sending messages from my old scripts (ideas?). I can call info from my TR scripts t files into a menu after removing [] bindings but not via "send message temp true" option

2. all [author] references in t files need removing yes? (i've built a menu option to get around the send incoming question not working anymore) only \033R\033X seem to be available now

3. how do i add a question (via a menu if this is now the way) to a station

4. using a menu option to send a question means it dissapears if the player hits the delete key

5. are all english bindings L044?

6. the emp mod pack only works if selected as a custom mod profile, i cannot rename it to 5.dat/cat

[Cycrow]

a few from me

1. I'm getting xml errors sending messages from my old scripts (ideas?). I can call info from my TR scripts t files into a menu after removing [] bindings but not via "send message temp true" option



2. all [author] references in t files need removing yes? (i've built a menu option to get around the send incoming question not working anymore) only \033R\033X seem to be available now

3. how do i add a question (via a menu if this is now the way) to a station

4. using a menu option to send a question means it dissapears if the player hits the delete key

5. are all english bindings L044?

6. the emp mod pack only works if selected as a custom mod profile, i cannot rename it to 5.dat/cat

1. This usually depends on the format of the text your trying to display, some things will no longer work in normal messages, like the [colours].

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- I'll keep trying

2. All the colour codes should work in menus.

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 k

3. Do u mean a custom menu adding some options you can select ?

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- yes

4. Delete is the close all menus key, so it will close it, theres no way to prevent that

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hmn, so is there another way of asking questions as the send inc question does not seem to work, will test again though

5. L044 in text files is the language, so that will be english.

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-ta

6. I've not used EMP, but it should work, i assume u've created it from TC ware files and not just used the old one ?

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- when it comes to modding i'm manuel from barcelona, it's the TR EMP

[Litcube]

but the files a now basically in the form of, XXXX-LXXX.xml

which is in the sticky btw

It is? Which sticky?

Also, it'd be pretty cool to see a short tutorial on how the new menu system works. I think this is the most exciting part of MCSI 41.

[oatboy]

So I know basically nothing about scripting, but i desperately want to get this script http://www.nthdegree.com.au/sverre/publ ... 31205.html
to work in TC, because it was so useful. I tried changing the version to 41 in all the files and changing the format of the T file to the new format, but it still won't load. Is there an easy way to fix this or would i have to learn how to rewrite the script?
Thanks a lot guys!
Edit: vvvvv oh thanks a lot!

[TradinCajun]

Here is the situation. When piloting TP's (there could be others but haven't purchased any M6's or larger yet.) the main view screen seems to be WAY too high above the piloted ship. Much higher than from where the actual cockpit is located almost like a third person view.

The screen shot on the left is the default view. The right screen is from my point of view floating in front of the cockpit after ejecting and much careful manuvering to get as close to the cockpit as I possibly can without causing a massive breach in my spacesuit.

http://img235.imageshack.us/img235/5556 ... eenko8.jpg

As you can see there is a bit of a discrepancy here. Granted you can see more space around you in the left. But doesn't the left view leave you feeling man I thought my ship was bigger than that.
I'm of the opinion that size does matter and the view on the right gives you a truer view.

Just my 2 cents.

TC

[Litcube]

There's actually two places where you have the change the 32 to a 41.

Do a text search for it within the file. The last one isn't so obvious, and underneath the body of the script data.

[ThisIsHarsh]

I'm just wondering if anyone has seen/knows if there is any kind of more intelligent patrol ships (e.g. similar to LVs excellent Race Response) built-in to X3TC. Seems like a feature that would logically have a place in the next installment, since stock patrol ships were widely critisized in X3R.

I have noticed that stations seem to have defenders now, at least, so I'm hopeful it goes further than that. Not had a chance to see if this is the case myself though.

I know it doesnt sound like a scripting question, but I ask here to see if there is a 'market' for more intelligent AI fleets - and if so, are there any new scripting capabilities that could be useful for developing them? How about the MD vs script editor for such 'faction level' scripts (e.g. given the event-driven nature of the MD)?

[DCurrahee]

Great idea, that would be great if you found the place to change that.

[SpongeBobSpacepants]

Hi, are there any plans for a Commercial Agent script for TC ? I`ve used it before in X3R and am surprised it wasn`t included in TC. It was a very useful script and makes the whole running of a factory soo much easier. I`m sure the scripters are busy enough but this script would be a MUST for the game imo

[UniTrader]

the German version of the CAG (or HVT - Handelsvertretung) alpha 2 is released in the German Scripting Forums already but the translation is still in progress afaik

PS Link to the German Topic: http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=216726

[Roguey]

hi there,

Will our scripts work in X3t or need converting so we can load/run them? ie. what needs to be done to X3 script to make it fully X3t compatabile?

I guess any scripts which use the BBS will need changing/removing?

[SpongeBobSpacepants]

Oh thanks Uni

[jlehtone]

@TradinCajun: I would guess that you can modify the ship data in order to move the camera location, just like in X3R. Several modders did so for the X3R, so there should be instructions (somewhere) in the X3R S&M forum. If something is fundamentally different, experiment and then tell the rest of us.

@Roguey: CBJ wrote somewhere that conversion is mandatory. As discussed on the first page (of this thread) , at least the language-file naming has changed. And obviously some features (BBS) are missing.

[Cycrow]

3. Do u mean a custom menu adding some options you can select ?

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ok, well this is quite simple really, first you create your menu array

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$menu = create menu array

then simply add items to them, there are 3 types, info lines, headers and items. The info lines is just text, and items are basically your selections, ie info lines can be the question, items can be the answer.

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add custom menu item array $menu, text="my answer 1" returnvalue="1"

this will add a single option, and when its selected, it returns the string "1". The return value can be anything, i usually use either strings or objects. Ie, you could get a list of ships, and set the return value to the ship object.