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Re: Coronavirus: COVID-19

Post by Ketraar » Tue, 4. Jan 22, 15:00

Ah sounds like a great feature, block anything that doesn't agree with you and challenges opinions. Imagine having to deal with stuff you don't like.

Thanks for the hint I will start creating my opinion bubble immediately now, very nice!

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Re: Coronavirus: COVID-19

Post by mr.WHO » Tue, 4. Jan 22, 15:36

Ketraar wrote:
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Ah sounds like a great feature, block anything that doesn't agree with you and challenges opinions. Imagine having to deal with stuff you don't like.
I'm well aware of confirmation bias bubble.

The thing I mentioned is more like spam filter.

Seriously there is no value in trash like "Celebrity X said Y about Covid" or "List of 20 things about anything, number 3 will suprise you".
Last but not least fear porn doesn't make you challenge your opinion, just terrorize you to comply.

Again, somehow blocking the providers that use too angry or emontional headers (basically clickbaits) makes good results in giving more balanced and moderate outlook.
This was even admited multiple times by YT and Facebook that outrage culture is somehow abused algorytmically, so there is nothing bad in countering it by manual block.

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Re: Coronavirus: COVID-19

Post by Alan Phipps » Tue, 4. Jan 22, 16:50

@ mr.WHO: If you mean always to check the reliability and integrity of sources of information that you might pay heed to and maybe act upon, then I'm 100% with you. The sources I use don't necessarily have to agree with or please me, they just need to be demonstrably relevant, unbiased and trustworthy. On that basis alone there are several browser headline sources that I filter out based on their histories of overt bias, misinformation and pointless grandstanding.

That said, I do not agree with your all-encompassing statement here: "modern media are trash" - I just prefer to be more selective about the media sources that I consult.

Bringing this back to topic, I find such action particularly important when relating to Covid pandemic information.
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Re: Coronavirus: COVID-19

Post by mr.WHO » Tue, 4. Jan 22, 18:35

The problem is that most of people do not have time, will nor ability to get into article sources to verify them.
Hell, most people are not willing to go beyond the header and first few lines of the article.

That's even more serious now with COVID.
Just like junk food can affect your physical health, junk news can affect your mental health.
I do realize saying "all media are trash" is like saying "all foods are fast foods", but when you go to the street, the main fast foods are the most flashy ones.

I really hit me hard when one day I went to my old news site, that doesn't allow you to filter the publishers.
It was all doom & gloom with 99% of articles about COVID and climate changes (and it wasn't a special day, like save the Earth or something).
I had serious problem to tell the difference, if it's a news site or some kind of doom cult and it was the biggest web portal in my country, not some niche site.

I can realy see people going nuts, if they are fed with such news composition every single day.

That's why I switcher to news portal that allow you to manually block what you don't want:
Clickbait titles that have very little or no relation to article content? - off to the blocking list.
Titles that try to raise emotions or urgency? - off to the blocking list (seriously, every single spam/phishing trainings tells you to ignore such titles, yet, somehow, no one is telling you to treat such news like unwanted spam/phishing?).
Opinion pieces? - very few opinions age well or have any relevance beyond current, ultra-short news cycle - off to the block list.
Anything related to pop-culture, celebrities and gossip? - burn it with fire.

Having these 4 simple rules into the algorythm really improved the news quality even on sublects that I don't like/disagree.

Bubble bias is dangerous thing, but so do the sensory/emotional overload and spam news flood.

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Re: Coronavirus: COVID-19

Post by Tamina » Wed, 5. Jan 22, 18:41

mr.WHO wrote:
Tue, 4. Jan 22, 12:59
What COVID epidemic taught me is that modern media are trash, they serve you clickbait at best, fear porn and propaganda at worst.

Funny enough, I found myself charmed by MS Edge feature of the main page, where you have news agregate (msn.com?), you can block articles from providers you don't like.
During COVID I started to block more and more trash media and Edge somehow started to serve much more balanced and moderate articles that normaly would be buried under the flood of trash.

Recently I compared the filterd and unfiltered news feed and it's really abhorent.

Last but not least, turn off any opinion articles - at this point they are nothing more than gossip & circleje*k with zero value.
I am using news.google.com and you can do the same there. The list of my blocked media sites has grown huge. The "Health" section is effectively reduced to a couple of tiny websites that I am too lazy to block and figured it would be easier to just not look there for any useful information :D
Btw. have you hard of this superfruit, kept secret by doctors, that makes you thin in a couple of days and cures Corona?

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Re: Coronavirus: COVID-19

Post by felter » Sun, 29. May 22, 12:58

So for the past two+ years I have been pretty strict, most of it has been staying away from society. As time got on, I started to allow my sister to visit and come into the home with one simple rule, masks must be worn in the house. My sister complained about this with the BS we don't take risks we don't go places we can catch it, which I know is BS. So she has been doing our shopping every Tuesday and Friday, but last Tuesday I get a phone call from her, I've got covid, she says.

Which is great, so much for the, we don't take chances. Turns out she was at her dentist on the Monday, and it turns out they had Covid, and they had phoned her to tell her that she was probably infected. The thing is on Monday night she was in my house visiting my mother, and she had stopped wearing a mask she would quickly put it on if I appeared, but I'm not stupid I noticed, and I would complain, but I got ignored as everything is fine.

Friday, my Mother was acting strange just not fully with it, and it was just getting worse as time went on she didn't eat her dinner, so I did a Covid test, low and behold she tested positive. Friday night was a long one, she was up and down all night doing things she shouldn't be doing. Saturday when I finally saw her she was sitting in her night clothes, and she just looked at me, and she would not talk to me or anything I ended up phoning for an Ambulance she was so agitated the Ambulance ask me to go with them which with her being Covid positive they don't normally do. So all day yesterday, I spent the day in the one and last place I ever wanted to spend any time in it's called the red zone, the area in the Hospital where suspected covid cases are admitted to hospital.

The hospital confirmed she was Covid positive, and she is now in the hospital's covid ward. She is 90 years young and has now caught covid after I spent all this time protecting her and myself from it, just because of my idiot of a sister and her unwillingness to wear a simple mask for that short time she spent in the house, she has now passed Covid onto our mother.

Fortunately, both of us are fully vaccinated which seems to be helping her, the worst of it seems to be that it has screwed up her diabetes, she has a slight cough, but it's not persistent, and her heart rate is all over the place. I was on the phone to the covid ward just a short while ago, and she is doing better she has had something to eat, and she is talking again, so finger crossed she will keep improving.

I keep saying this is not over, and this just shows it to be so. And a side note, I'm testing negative, which has surprised me.

Meanwhile, Hong Kong are currently having a bad time of it right now, with their highest rates of infections and deaths since it all began. An interesting fact that is coming out of there, is that 30% of those dying have been vaccinated, which all just shows the vaccine may protect you, but there is no guarantee that it will save you.
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Re: Coronavirus: COVID-19

Post by Gavrushka » Mon, 30. May 22, 13:57

Really do hope your mum is out of hospital soon, Felter. No, Covid is not over in the same way as other endemic diseases aren't over, but it is still too virulent for us to drop our guard fully. Now it's down to individual choice, there are gonna be people with Covid who will knowingly spread it. Thus is the society in which we live. :(
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“That explains its unusual shape,” Styanar said, grinning openly now. “Although it does little to illuminate just why your jowls are so flaccid or why you have quite so many chins.”

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“Well nature sure does have a sense of humour then,” Styanar said. “Shall we go inside? It’d not be a good idea for me to be spotted by others.”

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Re: Coronavirus: COVID-19

Post by felter » Wed, 1. Jun 22, 04:59

I got a Covid positive test, and I'm in a pretty bad place right now.
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Re: Coronavirus: COVID-19

Post by Gavrushka » Sat, 4. Jun 22, 08:55

felter wrote:
Wed, 1. Jun 22, 04:59
I got a Covid positive test, and I'm in a pretty bad place right now.
Damn, Felter, I'm sorry I just spotted this. I appreciate you have underlying health conditions which ain't gonna help, but I wish you (and your mum) a speedy and complete recovery.
“Man, my poor head is battered,” Ed said.

“That explains its unusual shape,” Styanar said, grinning openly now. “Although it does little to illuminate just why your jowls are so flaccid or why you have quite so many chins.”

“I…” Had she just called him fat? “I am just a different species, that’s all.”

“Well nature sure does have a sense of humour then,” Styanar said. “Shall we go inside? It’d not be a good idea for me to be spotted by others.”

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Re: Coronavirus: COVID-19

Post by CBJ » Sat, 4. Jun 22, 11:58

felter wrote:
Wed, 1. Jun 22, 04:59
I got a Covid positive test, and I'm in a pretty bad place right now.
Sorry to hear that, and I hope things improve for you quickly.

It won't be any consolation, but some of us out here are still doing our best to avoid putting vulnerable people at risk.

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Post by Mailo » Mon, 6. Jun 22, 23:02

felter wrote:
Wed, 1. Jun 22, 04:59
I got a Covid positive test, and I'm in a pretty bad place right now.
Sorry to hear you and your mother are suffering because of inconsiderate people. SInce my wife underwent chemo therapy from 2020 - 2021 and her immune system is rather compromised, you are living my constant fear. I wish you all the best, hopefully you'll both pull through!
I also know the feeling of family being ... "on the other side", my cousin is in a state (Land) level party leadership of the party "Die Basis" ... pretty much a cross between Covid deniers and Putin lovers ... she actively tried her 86 year old mother to not get the vaccine.
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Re: Coronavirus: COVID-19

Post by felter » Tue, 7. Jun 22, 00:18

Thanks guys. I'm actually doing okay now, still a little bit blocked up and some difficulty breathing with a heavy chest, but I've had worse. At the start it was pretty bad painful and uncomfortable, but it never felt out of control. My mother while out of hospital she is pretty much screwed up, doesn't know what she is doing or how to do it, she was getting bad beforehand, but it has got significantly worse. She is also not eating as much as she used to, doesn't seem to have any kind of appetite now, which is maybe a godsend as we are pretty much running out of food. Going to test tomorrow and if I'm clear, going to have to go shopping. Thankfully this all happened after we had been vaccinated, It's scary to think what it would have been like if we hadn't, I don't think she would have survived, while I would have ended up in hospital at the very least., because at one point I was thinking that was going to happen.
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Re: Coronavirus: COVID-19

Post by Tamina » Tue, 7. Jun 22, 00:50

Oh thank god, felter. When you wrote that you got Corona I was very worried about you. The time I got Corona, it was like a 4 to 5 days long very painfull flu - so I am glad to see you back and okay.

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Re: Coronavirus: COVID-19

Post by Gavrushka » Tue, 7. Jun 22, 08:07

What a relief, Felter. Here's to a negative result tomorrow, and to your mum's full recovery. I can only imagine how damned angry you're gonna be tomorrow when you're one of the few still wearing a mask if you manage to get out shopping.
“Man, my poor head is battered,” Ed said.

“That explains its unusual shape,” Styanar said, grinning openly now. “Although it does little to illuminate just why your jowls are so flaccid or why you have quite so many chins.”

“I…” Had she just called him fat? “I am just a different species, that’s all.”

“Well nature sure does have a sense of humour then,” Styanar said. “Shall we go inside? It’d not be a good idea for me to be spotted by others.”

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Re: Coronavirus: COVID-19

Post by Arsaneus » Thu, 8. Sep 22, 10:14

I've finally done it! After being able to avoid covid since it broke out, I finally got it as nobody else seems to care about it anymore in Switzerland, thus unavoidable. First week was pretty bad with fever and feeling terrible.
The problem though is that it messed up my body. I'm now in week 5 and I still feel like a puddle of misery. Brain fog, heart racing after just a little bit of physical activity, breathing issues, sore throat and dizziness. Intensity varies by day but I don't feel safe driving a car anymore which makes life for my wife worse as well.
Luckily I'm in home office, so I can still work and earn my keep but it simply doesn't get better.

I feel really bad for my wife and kids as I'm basically useless to them now.

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Re: Coronavirus: COVID-19

Post by Tamina » Thu, 8. Sep 22, 11:13

I am amazed how some people were able to avoid Covid for so long. A good friend of mine works in retail and still got Covid for the first time a couple weeks ago.

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Re: Coronavirus: COVID-19

Post by linolafett » Thu, 8. Sep 22, 15:59

Hope it gets better for you soon, Arsaneus.
I also managed to avoid it so far, but i am a weirdo and wear a mask a lot. Even made it past the gamescom without getting it.
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Re: Coronavirus: COVID-19

Post by Arsaneus » Thu, 8. Sep 22, 16:51

linolafett wrote:
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Hope it gets better for you soon, Arsaneus.
I also managed to avoid it so far, but i am a weirdo and wear a mask a lot. Even made it past the gamescom without getting it.
Thanks Lino!

Nothing "weirdo" about it! We've been quite careful as well. Disinfecting and wearing masks (That's the Japanese side of us I guess) but it's hard when nobody else doesn't care anymore. We still need to go shopping after all. That's probably how I got it.

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Re: Coronavirus: COVID-19

Post by Tamina » Thu, 8. Sep 22, 17:01

About the "not care". I presume most people already got it, so I guess those people (like me) "don't care" because we should be immune already and there is nearly no risk to catch or transmit it anymore.

And if I am really honest: I would love to get infected again as long as I still have some immunity left. As it was a horrible experience for me likewise and I would rather have many minor colds than another hefty one next year. 😁

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Re: Coronavirus: COVID-19

Post by Arsaneus » Thu, 8. Sep 22, 17:04

Immune? Some of my coworkers had it 3-4 times already. Every time they are off work for 1-2 weeks. Luckily only a minority have long covid.

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