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Re: Star Trek: Picard

Post by Gavrushka » Sun, 11. Aug 19, 03:50

Ah, Discovery frustrated me, but I did watch every episode.

What really bugged me was how much of the 'technical' dialogue was aimed squarely at the viewer and made zero sense as part of the conversation. What made it worse was the convoluted technical gibber was so fudged and forced that it pulled me out of the story, especially since the 'plot' depended on it.

And Michael Burnham obviously learned her craft in the Jim Carey School of Overacting.

But I've high hopes for Picard. Yeah, I'd be happy with just mediocre too.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard

Post by Blake00 » Fri, 16. Aug 19, 15:48

I enjoyed Discovery although nothing beats 80s and 90s Trek for me haha.

I'm sure many have pondered the universal translator thing.. but quite frankly what else could they do to explain everyone speaking English lol?

Oooooh looks like Robert Picardo, the EMH Doctor from Voyager might be in Star Trek Picard too. God this show opens up so many cool things for not just TNG fans but Voyager and DS9 fans too! :)

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Re: Star Trek: Picard

Post by Blake00 » Mon, 27. Jan 20, 08:32

I've seen the first ep now.

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I loved the opening shot with the camera closing in on the Enterprise D (which had some interesting design modifications) and going through the window into to the room.. the kind of shot you always wanted to see as a kid watching TNG but knew they couldn't really do effectively (well not without spending some heavy money lol, which is kind of ironic considering the 60s failed trek pilot sort of has a camera through bridge window shot)..

I enjoyed the whole episode but I feel like I can't quite give judgement yet. I need to know more about what's going on and need to see how things pan out story wise.

Also the zero mention of Lal and Lore seems a bit strange in a world where the daystrom institute desperately wanted to replicate Data. I mean what happened to their parts after they were disassembled? B4 was in a drawer so where's the Lal and Lore drawers haha?

First thought was.. did the writers forget them?.. but that seems unlikely consider they brought Hugh back which means they clearly remember Descent 1 & 2 which Lore was in. The whole Daughter 2.0 storyline suggests the Lal episode is something they know too. Plus Frakes directed that one and he's involved in Picard.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard

Post by Ketraar » Fri, 31. Jan 20, 02:00

Just watched EP2 and I'm glad to say it good.

Things start to take shape and the potential for a great adventure is palpable. Still I'll reserve commitment for when this adventure starts and we "get going", even though I cant help but to feel optimistic.

Eagerly waiting for next episode.

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Re: Star Trek: Picard

Post by Vertigo 7 » Fri, 31. Jan 20, 02:26

Ketraar wrote:
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Just watched EP2 and I'm glad to say it good.

Things start to take shape and the potential for a great adventure is palpable. Still I'll reserve commitment for when this adventure starts and we "get going", even though I cant help but to feel optimistic.

Eagerly waiting for next episode.

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I noticed they have a ton of executive producers on this with some big names, at least in the Trek universe. the 2 that stood out to me were Patrick Stewart and Eugene Roddenberry (Gene's son).

I read a while back that Patrick Stewart wasn't interested in doing any more Star Trek due to the series not being what it once was, or something to that effect. He took on this project because he would have a voice in it's direction, so I really don't doubt that it's going to be high caliber. Jonathan Frakes (Riker) is even set to direct a few episodes of Picard. I have a hard time seeing how this series could fall short of expectations.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard

Post by Olterin » Fri, 31. Jan 20, 11:31

Still depends on where they'll go with this, and there are some things which would need more exposition for me ("how did we get here?"), but it makes me want to watch more (which I can't say of Discovery). So I remain cautiously optimistic.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard

Post by Vertigo 7 » Fri, 31. Jan 20, 14:37

There was a comic book released with the backstory to Picard. I'm sure there's a digital version somewhere of it.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard

Post by Vertigo 7 » Thu, 20. Feb 20, 22:19

holy shit this series is daaaarrrk... I love it!
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Re: Star Trek: Picard

Post by Ketraar » Thu, 20. Feb 20, 23:17

Vertigo 7 wrote:
Thu, 20. Feb 20, 22:19
holy shit this series is daaaarrrk... I love it!
Indeed :-)

Left wanting more, is what I think discribes best what I think about this series so far. So many thoughts...

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Re: Star Trek: Picard

Post by Blake00 » Wed, 26. Feb 20, 18:51

Am slowly catching up lol..

Glad episode 2 explains some of the mysteries & fan complaints about the first episode: (spoiler alert)
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A few fans complained about the weird Starfleet HQ 'rooftop cleanup' job & leave Picard on his couch with no questions asked scene jump moment in ep 1 but now we see the Commodore reviewing the battle cleanup footage (questioning it's effectiveness) and discover this fascinating Starfleet conspiracy with secret Romulan sect plot. I remember people in the past getting so upset about the English writing in the Romulan Borg research post but there are a lots of humans there which explains that one.

We see that the Androids that destroyed Utopia planitia were 'hacked' presumably by this secret synthetic hating Romulan faction. And holy moly they actually acknowledged Picard's Irumodic syndrome that afflicted him around now in the alternate future seen in TNG finale All Good Things. I'm impressed with their attention to detail (regarding old Trek events), which makes me hope the writers haven't forgotten Lore & Lal after all.

The only real gaff I saw was Laris saying Romulans never had a cybernetic program which contradicts the awesome TNG S3 ep the defector where Admiral Jarok tells Data that he knows a number of Romulan cyberneticists that would love to get their hands on him. Although then again maybe its not a gaff as we saw Romulan experts pulling apart dead Borg. You cant really study Borgs without some good cyberneticists lol. Probably just more Romulan secrets lol.
I'm still enjoying the show but am still unsure as to whether I actually really really like it or not. Still need to see how story pans out lol.

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Not thrilled about how they continue to make Picard look slow, weak & frail. You watch him on talk shows and he zips around just fine lol! But I love the fact that in ep 3 it appears writers are trying to address one of those funny never explained issues from old trek.

When I was young it always annoyed me how in TNG supposedly a Borg who got his individuality somehow broke a friggin cube and caused a rebellion on it of sorts when assimilating individuals is what the Borg do lol. Voyager & FC ended up adding a lot of info on how the borg worked, how they connect, and made it pretty obvious that assimilating ex borgs (eg 7 of 9, the borg kids, locutus etc) back into the fold wasn't going to break anything lol, in fact they wanted them. Yes Hugh was a Borg test tube baby and not a previous individual unlike those others I mention but it shouldn't really matter HOW they became an individual when you're grabbing someone and pumping nanites into their blood and connecting them to the hive lol.

However it looks like the new trek writers are carving a story where in reality, Hugh went back to the Borg they reassimilated him no probs but then a few hours later on the trip back to delta they found a nice little yummy Romulan intelligence vessel on the way to assimilate, they start 'processing them' and then 'something' goes wrong (Romulan virus? weapon? racial nanite rejection like the Denobulans?). Hugh presumably wakes up and pops out of his alcove again thinking its somehow caused by him (hence why he later tells Picard in Descent that it was his fault), all the other borgs who don't know how to be individuals start goin nuts and they kick off a nice little rebellion which then at some point Lore arrives on the scene and takes control of them and they escape on the light cruiser which we see in Descent (small borg ships inside big borg ships is nothing new). In fact this new obvious Romulan ex-borg fears of Dahj's sister (ie synthetics) could very well be relating to trauma from what Lore did to many of them when he took over things which once again gives me hope Lore will somehow come into this new story at some point. Probably a long shot though haha..

Am I way off.. we shall see haha.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard

Post by Blake00 » Wed, 26. Feb 20, 20:54

Episode 4 seen (belated).. WE'RE OFF!:
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Well things have finally taken off! Enjoying the fact we're back in space.. loved the look of the Romulan refugee colony (particularly in the flashback sequences) with the giant 'world tree' background, although in the opening planet shot I wish we'd seen the Enterprise E approaching (considering they made some interesting modifications to the D I'd be interested to see what they do with the E). Backstory of the Romulan Samurai dude & his history with Picard was interesting, although Picard now walking around with a Elf looking dude that slices off heads feels a bit weird lol, but no doubt they'll be some big fun action bits with him down the track (which will aggravate oldschool trek purists to no end I'm sure haha).

Enjoyed the space battle, sure enough it was a classic 22nd century Romulan Bird of Prey (nice tip of hat to old Trek), retrofitted for lawless system warlord related activities lol. Interesting to see all these different hologram crew member variants captain Chris has. 7 of 9 has arrived! Will be very interesting to see how much they delve into her past and backstory post Voyager return. Also the holodeck stuff explains why she's in Patrick's 'home' in the trailers. I know people were complaining/making fun of the Picard sword scene in the original trailer, but it was fine, they even made him took kinda tough before he did the expected 'I'm not fighting you/playing your games' thing. Although his comment about having bad knees annoyed me, I don't care if you're 95yrs old, it's 24th century, people aren't gonna have 'bad knees' lol (we're already getting into 3D printing/replicating joints & cartilage now so it's only a matter of time), would rather they just continue to try and hide any difficulties RL Patrick might have, although I still maintain he seems to zip around just fine in real life on talk shows and stuff though lol.

Anyway we're already off to another planet in the teaser for the next ep so things are definitely moving along now lol! Although I'm a little worried about all that silly dress up stuff.. I swear to god if the next ep is like the Casino planet sequence in Ryan Johnson's cr*ptastic Star Wars film and black eye patch gangsta Picard is throwing dice with cheesy overly excited cgi aliens I'm gonna throw my Tv lol.

Oh and I'm probably off the mark with the Lore theory previously posted.. sounds like they're going for something bigger.. harbinger of doom stuff lol!
Guess I better hurry up and watch Ep 5 now instead of reading comments as that's just asking for spoilers haha.

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Re: Star Trek: Picard

Post by Blake00 » Thu, 27. Feb 20, 11:36

Yeah.. episode 5.. wow.. If people here disliked it you don't have to worry about me arguing with you on this one guys. As this episode broke me too, or more precisely it broke my enjoyment of the show. I didn't enjoy that at all. I thought maybe if I sleep on it I'd feel better but nope, today I'm even grumpier about it haha. Up until now I've only had little nitpicks and have really enjoyed show and have defended it when people have complained about it "not feeling like star trek" but there was next to nothing Star Trek feeling about Ep 5. Those people who complained about past eps not being star trek are gonna looooooove this one lol. I don't wanna walk away from a Star Trek episode feeling frustrated and miserable. When they played the exciting trailer for the next ep and all the cool Borg stuff at the end I didn't even give s***. I was like.. whatever. They're gonna have to work hard in the next few eps to undo the damage that one just did. I can only hope that they had to go that dark and callous to setup the audience to be brought back to the light and happy ending lol. But I can't help but think that if it turned me off that badly then all those people out there who's really not been that into the new show and were barely holding on will probably be like "stuff this!" and be done with it after seeing that ep lol.
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For starters the acting felt a bit weird and wooden in this ep. Picard & 7 scenes felt weird, felt more like the actors were catching up more than the characters haha. 7 felt a little too different and Patrick didn't feel very 'Picardy'. His french gangster over acting rouse was funny but just didn't feel like something Picard would do, felt like I was watching one of Patrick's stage plays lol. For a French born character his french accent was pretty bad haha!

Can't remember what forum I was talking in but there was a guy who was all annoyed about how upset Raffi was about loosing her security clearance lol, well he's gonna love this ep and it pretty much says she turned into a alco & drug addict and messed up her family after that incident lol. Messed up drug addicts and alcoholics on earth, I'm sure Gene would love that lol. But hey I'm sure she'll have her recovering addict redemption story a happy ending with her dr son at some point and people will wonder if they're watching an episode of Chicago Med & not Star Trek lol.

But lets get to the real jewel of the episode.. I liked Voyager a lot but its not my favourite old trek show, probably more 3rd fav behind TNG & DS9. So considering how much this ep annoyed me I feel bad for all the super Voyager fans out there. You're NOT in for a good time here guys, I REALLY do feel bad for you guys and say sorry. Pretty much straight off the bat poor old (now grown up) Borg kid Icheb is utterly and brutally tortured/dissected and then murdered. Obviously the former was by the 'bad guys' but the later was by his Borg mum 7 of 9! Yes that's right, die hard voyager fans who love 7 of 9 and have been waiting for her return will literally get to see her shoot her own adopted son in the first 20 seconds of seeing her lol. He does the whole "im too far gone, put me out of my misery" thing everyone's seen a million times and she obliges. Get f****** mate! I get it, he's probably missing a few vital cybernetic organs but if he bleeds out or dies on route so be it, but at least try to throw him over your shoulder and carry your sons ass out of there. I mean I'm sure she didn't exactly have a nice state of the art medical bay next door ready to go or a big starship to beam up to but still it.. just.. felt.. wrong. Oh and apparently she just left him there too giving the black market guys EXACTLY what they wanted anyway as the crime lord chick brags later in the ep about dissecting him. Wtf?????

But don't worry Voyager fans there's more character assassination coming for your enjoyment haha. 7 of 9 is definitely not the one you know anymore lol.. now she's PTSD Aragorn ranger'ing around the galaxy shooting lots of people vigilante style.. in fact I think they even call her a vigilante in one scene lol. You know all those boring episodes of Voyager where we got endless Janeway and 7 of 9 scenes (funny now considering how much the actors disliked each other) handcrafting her into a civilized 24th century human being? Well say goodbye to that folks cause now she's a messed up Bourbon drinking badass assassin for hire! She's helping those in need who can't help themselves and is more than happy to kill a few hundred people in the process if they get in her way *cue dramatic 80s action music* lol!

So what now then.. I mean in her final scene she lies to Picard, beams back down and offs the crime lord chick and then starts mowing down the place and it cuts away. The end! So that's answers the question of will she be a regular.. nope.. she's gooone. Maybe she'll come back later? Maybe she's return in a future season? Maybe they'll even be a nice happy ending redemption story for her down the track too (although that doesn't bring poor Icheb back does it lol)? Or maybe not lol and that'll be the end of her story and every time Voyager fans re-watch the old show they'll be like "oh look there's Icheb, when voyager gets home he joins starfleet and gets brutally tortured and murdered for spare parts.. and oh look there's 7 of 9, she's the one that kills him and leaves him there to be dissected for said parts lol, and spends the rest of her life miserable and shooting up half the galaxy in revenge." It's likethe new Star Wars films.. I don't enjoy seeing my favourite childhood characters being brutally murdered in front of me. Because now when I re-watch the original stuff I just see their cheap deaths. Data's death in Nemesis had a similar effect on me so that's why I was so happy about this show as it gave me hope that they'd "do a star trek 3" and find a way to resurrect him. But now I find myself wondering how many other beloved characters are gonna get killed or messed up on the road to that happy ending, assuming thats even what happens, we may not even get that lol.

Anyway sorry.. back to the slaughter.. Bruce maddox.. they found him.. and he was all a messed up stressed alcoholic too of course.. cause everyone's messed up these days.. aaaaaaand then he was dead. All he bloody did was tell them her name and that shes at the cube and next thing we know he's getting offed by his own girlfriend (20 or so years younger than him I might add, yeeeaaahhh way to go on office romance bro! pulling those youngers chicks aint easy bro.. high 5!) giving us our innocent clumsy girl is actually working for bad guys shock moment at the end of the episode.. fake gasp.. yeah.. like I said before I was already completely disconnected by that stage and just didn't even care.
Urgh.. end of rant. Breath Daniel.. Just breath... lol

Like I said.. they're gonna need to work hard to undo the damage this episode did. I think I'd rather rewatch most of the episodes in discovery season 1 than ever watch that episode again lol.

Everywhere I go so far I've seem pretty horrified responses to ep5. I've seen a couple of dudes say they loved ep5 though, I was like WAAAT lol.
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I will pay the episode one compliment though.. their attention to detail on past Trek events once again is impressive. Eg they acknowledged Picard's Borg past which I was worried they wouldn't. They mentioned Quark in the bar sequence. And the biggest one would be during the horrible Icheb torture surgery scene where the lady callously says "where's your cortical node buddy?" as shes ripping stuff out of him. In season 7 of Voyager Icheb risked his life and gave his to 7 of 9 when her failed and they realised she couldn't survive without one while he might, which of course he did.

Meanwhile some self appointed comedian just thew this hand grenade into a Voyager facebook group. I'm sure you can image how well that went down with them lol. Too soon? Yeah just a bit lol.

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Re: Star Trek: Picard

Post by Ketraar » Thu, 27. Feb 20, 12:45

Well I'm one of those that says that EP5 was pretty good, I liked the grim and rather horrid start of it and hope that the show does not shy away from showing stuff like this when its needed to convey the horrors of conflicts.

I dont have such attachments to secondary characters, like 7 of 9's "makeshift son" and dont think everything has to be made grandiose, it served a purpose that was fine with me.
The casino bit was a bit over the top, but I dont see how its much different to many TNG episodes, so I dont get the "it doesn't feel like star trek" criticism and wonder what series people watched in the past.

Now I agree that in 2020 and having watched The Expanse, the standard has risen and we expect more from shows, and as such I would like to see more daring in writing, especially showing the more grim sides of war, I mean there seems to have been an extinction level event and millions are suffering, so this need to be shown.

Star Trek was always a way to challenge social issues and I think its fitting that Picard showcases the true nature of humanity when faced with the choices portrayed on the show.

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Re: Star Trek: Picard

Post by Vertigo 7 » Thu, 27. Feb 20, 15:53

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Well I'm one of those that says that EP5 was pretty good, I liked the grim and rather horrid start of it and hope that the show does not shy away from showing stuff like this when its needed to convey the horrors of conflicts.

I dont have such attachments to secondary characters, like 7 of 9's "makeshift son" and dont think everything has to be made grandiose, it served a purpose that was fine with me.
The casino bit was a bit over the top, but I dont see how its much different to many TNG episodes, so I dont get the "it doesn't feel like star trek" criticism and wonder what series people watched in the past.

Now I agree that in 2020 and having watched The Expanse, the standard has risen and we expect more from shows, and as such I would like to see more daring in writing, especially showing the more grim sides of war, I mean there seems to have been an extinction level event and millions are suffering, so this need to be shown.

Star Trek was always a way to challenge social issues and I think its fitting that Picard showcases the true nature of humanity when faced with the choices portrayed on the show.

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I think the direction they took with Echeeb (sp?) was interesting. I mean, he wasn't a central character in Voyager but there was definitely a kinship between he and 7. After all, he saved her life at significant risk to his own; he gave her his cortical node after hers began to deteriorate and almost died doing so. It made sense to me to use him as a spark of fury for 7. They were the only 2 liberated Borg that made it to Earth on Voyager. The other Borg children were returned to their home worlds and Echeeb's own parents used him as a suicide weapon against the Borg.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard

Post by Ketraar » Thu, 27. Feb 20, 16:23

I agree, hence why I said I was fine with him being used to "advance" the character of 7. Always liked 7, and not just for the visuals, her struggle to find her humanity was never a straight line, since it also meant to give up on her history and for better or worse the Borg were her "family".
This is what I meant when I said I hope they keep this show grimm, nuanced struggle between character motivations and "doing the right thing".

I'm mildly optimistic this show will deliver exactly that (even if it seems that most rather have bland Mandalorian type shows).

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Re: Star Trek: Picard

Post by Redvers Ganderpoke » Thu, 5. Mar 20, 11:34

There seems to be a bad reaction by some fans to EP 5, I thought it was OK. I don't think the reaction was quite as bad as the Doctor Who finale. But that's for another thread.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard

Post by Vertigo 7 » Fri, 6. Mar 20, 15:06

i do have a couple of gripes about that episode.
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1) I think they're getting a touch carried away with killing off iconic characters. Hugh didn't need to die. I don't think that had any impact on the story thus far.
2) What was with Troy not being able to sense anything from Dajh? She could read Data when Lore was feeding him emotions, and after Data got the emotion chip. She also could sense emotions from Lal right before she died. And Data's "mother", she could sense emotions from her. Not sure why the oversight there... too much precedent to ignore.
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Re: Star Trek: Picard

Post by Ketraar » Fri, 6. Mar 20, 23:15

EP7 was nice and warm, but felt like a filler episode, still nice and cosy. Some nostalgia buttons pushing, but overall a meh episode.

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Re: Star Trek: Picard

Post by Tycow » Sat, 7. Mar 20, 01:01

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EP7 was nice and warm, but felt like a filler episode, still nice and cosy. Some nostalgia buttons pushing, but overall a meh episode.

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1000% agree. Nice to see the characters in it, but they could have been a 15 minute section rather than a full episode.

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Re: Star Trek: Picard

Post by exogenesis » Sat, 7. Mar 20, 11:40

Been watching this every Friday
- it's nice when FireTV reminds me there's a new episode, cos I've generally forgotten by then.

Feeling it's all a bit low key, but probably a better long story because of that (how many episode are there to be, 10 ?)

Looks like they're going to try & 'one-show' as many old characters as possible,
this last episode (7) was spoilt for me cos I've really never liked Riker at all (at least the character),
& I hope to god they don't try to bring back Wesley.

Pretty good story line tho, I like it, even if a bit overly in-filled with reminiscing of relations between old characters.

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