Not directly. Though I do work with those that are. The point I was trying to make, though, is that whether source code is under lock and key or available to the public doesn't mean one has flaws and the other doesn't. Linux has been open source since it's inception. It's had it's share of CVEs too.
Yeah, I can see why you would be. Missing some context. There was more to dude's post that was likely edited and removed before mine was submitted. Comments along the lines of source code for Windows XP being made public and ensuing predictions of doom.Chips wrote: ↑Sat, 24. Apr 21, 14:54I'm a bit baffled.Vertigo 7 wrote: ↑Sat, 24. Apr 21, 14:22I don't really care what vulnerabilities existed in a now 18 years old and out of service commercial OS. Windows has evolved and been patched as has Linux, OSX, Unix, on and on. You can preach open source all day long, but the corporate world runs on Windows. If open source platforms provided that much more security and stability, that wouldn't be the case and you would have 3rd party developers falling over themselves to write their products for the opensource platforms instead of Windows.
Nope. I admin a bunch of servers, the majority of them are Windows, and provide end user support for specific things.Chips wrote: ↑Sat, 24. Apr 21, 14:54Are you just an end user (as in home user) in this instance?Vertigo 7 wrote: ↑Sat, 24. Apr 21, 14:22I won't deny that open source things have their niche uses. Linux makes a great base for a firewall appliance, as a for instance. But I'd never replace my desktop OS with Linux. There may be some open source equivalencies that I could source to replace my day to day uses, but I find those EU experiences lack luster, to say the least, and lacking in features offered by commercial applications. Not to mention driver support for my hardware is often DIY - no thanks.
Maybe things will change, one day. But, some folks have been saying open source is the way to go for nearly 2 decades and doesn't seem like it's making much headway beyond the hobbyist crowd.
Maybe... but depending on the severity, the person could also be facing lawsuits and possibly criminal charges related to espionage. It's all circumstantial.
True, but I look at Apple, for instance. They've been hard and heavy after k-12 schools since I was a kid. And what'd they do here in the last few years? They stopped producing servers. Outside of graphic design, they have almost no presence in the corporate world despite all of the Mac fans saying how great and wonderful their Macs are. We even have a handful of them deployed to end users, mostly doctors that want to carry around their Macbook as a status symbol, but anyone needing to do more than check their email or tool around on the web for work, they don't make the cut, mostly because there's so little 3rd party support and they can't run the applications needed.jlehtone wrote: ↑Sat, 24. Apr 21, 15:09It isn't. The "more eyes on the code" has diminishing returns, and all eyes do not peruse all code. Scary recent example, the "sudo" had a hole for almost a decade.
VHS vs betamax. Even if open source had valid alternatives for everything, reschooling users would still remain huge "unnecessary" cost. "Cheaper to Keep Her"Vertigo 7 wrote: ↑Sat, 24. Apr 21, 14:22You can preach open source all day long, but the corporate world runs on Windows. If open source platforms provided that much more security and stability, that wouldn't be the case and you would have 3rd party developers falling over themselves to write their products for the opensource platforms instead of Windows.
RMS started preaching open source almost four decades ago.
Not offended, fyi. Just giving my view.BaronVerde wrote: ↑Sat, 24. Apr 21, 15:13Oh dear, what have I done
I deleted two points from my last post because of fear they might turn out to be devisive: that was google's suid sandbox and the disclosure of parts of windows xp code on the web a few years ago. I did it too late and it seems that offended people, sorry 'bout that. Watch your back out there, guys
I freely admit, I use some opensource things. There are some rather clever utilities I use to give me a better picture of certain situations that are open source and I run a TrueNAS server that I have integrated with my AD lab. But my desktop is and will most likely forever be Windows and the majority of my software is not opensource. I can't see that changing here or at work any time soon.