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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by CBJ » Thu, 22. Sep 22, 21:42

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by fiksal » Thu, 22. Sep 22, 21:50

@Alm888

I admit, I am not the typical example of a Russian. Thanks for noting on the state of the economy though. All I get from 1TV and propaganda press is that how everything is peachy
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by JSDD » Thu, 22. Sep 22, 22:27

mr.WHO wrote:
Thu, 22. Sep 22, 21:38
JSDD wrote:
Thu, 22. Sep 22, 20:41
question 1:
you know what the "treaty of versailles" is? ..
iZ the essenZ of what brought hitler to power .. and made germans aaaaangry, veeery angry against the "west" / allied powers
// those who dont learn from history, are damned to repeat it! (and i dont mean germany, in this context)
Are you f***king serious ? You just admitted Russia is 3rd Reich.
You do not appease Hitler, you starve him, sanction him and fight him.
putin is not hitler ... if westerns succed with "keeping russia down" you gonna see a russian hitler taking over once putin is gone! :roll:
putin is kind of "moderate" ... there are far more dangerous creatures in russia
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by mr.WHO » Thu, 22. Sep 22, 22:35

JSDD wrote:
Thu, 22. Sep 22, 22:27
putin is not hitler ... if westerns succed with "keeping russia down" you gonna see a russian hitler taking over once putin is gone! :roll:
putin is kind of "moderate" ... there are far more dangerous creatures in russia
So we need to surrender to Kaiser, hoping that we can avoid Hitler?
What a joke.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by Warenwolf » Thu, 22. Sep 22, 22:40

I keep noticing that the ones who complain about Western abuse of power and hypocrisy (which admittedly are plenty of historic examples) at same time totally ignore Putin's abuse of power and hypocrisy. While Putin threatens with nuclear strikes, the very same people discuss legality of freezing assets of the guy threatening with nukes...go figure...

Semantics don't win wars. And we are in war. As to those who support Putin and are Russian, I will point out that instead of playing at keyboard warriors, there is perfect chance to support your side by joining the army. Enjoy the fresh air at the front instead of those that oppose such assignment*:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/ ... -in-droves

*Putin's army is accepting foreigners too.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by JSDD » Thu, 22. Sep 22, 23:31

@ warrenwolf
i dont need to .. i let russian / ukrainian winter fight for me :P (and time)

no, seriously, i just give you all (or some of you) a picture of yourself (like a mirror)
there is no right or wrong in this war. ukraine never had the right to pursue anti-russian policies, neglect procecution of ukrainian nazis who burned some russians in a building in odessa, and never had the right to use tanks against protesting russians in donbas armed with sticks and stones (in the beginning!). the same is true for russia: they are now robbing land from ukraine, killing ukrainians on the streets and make em pay a very cold price by destroying their (energy) infastructure ... they are basically bleeding those ukrainians dry (donbas and the occupied south made about 80% of ukraines GDP before the war, ukraine has no money, no weapons, and no economy to sustain themselves: either they drive the enemy out or they gonna vanish from the map)

i dont like both policies, neither russian nor ukrainian
what makes me (no angry but) "annoyed" is the bigotry of those (writing here in this forum) who support westerners unconditionally ... no matter what

@ mr.who
the kaiser wasnt such a bad guy .. personally i dont like any monarchy (neither the british, nor the german, and i despise the saudis)
// this incest project should be wiped off planet earth, thats how i see it (sorry for those "strong" words)
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by Falcrack » Fri, 23. Sep 22, 00:10

fiksal wrote:
Thu, 22. Sep 22, 21:50
@Alm888

I admit, I am not the typical example of a Russian. Thanks for noting on the state of the economy though. All I get from 1TV and propaganda press is that how everything is peachy
Fiksal, you are my favorite Russian I have conversed with :)

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by Warenwolf » Fri, 23. Sep 22, 00:14

JSDD wrote:
Thu, 22. Sep 22, 23:31

i dont like both policies, neither russian nor ukrainian
what makes me (no angry but) "annoyed" is the bigotry of those (writing here in this forum) who support westerners unconditionally ... no matter what

You were frustrated with Ukrainians 1 month into the war for not surrendering so don't try to pretend to be neutral party here. You went even so far to suggest NATO dissolving - after the war has proven beyond doubt what happens if you are not member of NATO.
Heck, few years back you were very "understanding" about Putin's meddling in US election and his assassination of alleged traitor of his on UK soil if not outright directly supporting.

So color me skeptical about your non-bias...

On other hand enemy TV is entertaining Putin's devotees with presentations of Nuclear Attacks on UK. Yeah, I am unconditionally supporting who ever is against that lunatic. Slava Ukraini.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by Falcrack » Fri, 23. Sep 22, 00:15

JSDD wrote:
Thu, 22. Sep 22, 22:27
mr.WHO wrote:
Thu, 22. Sep 22, 21:38
JSDD wrote:
Thu, 22. Sep 22, 20:41
question 1:
you know what the "treaty of versailles" is? ..
iZ the essenZ of what brought hitler to power .. and made germans aaaaangry, veeery angry against the "west" / allied powers
// those who dont learn from history, are damned to repeat it! (and i dont mean germany, in this context)
Are you f***king serious ? You just admitted Russia is 3rd Reich.
You do not appease Hitler, you starve him, sanction him and fight him.
putin is not hitler ... if westerns succed with "keeping russia down" you gonna see a russian hitler taking over once putin is gone! :roll:
putin is kind of "moderate" ... there are far more dangerous creatures in russia
Nobody is Hitler. But Putin well represents the type of evil that Hitler characterized.

Russia needs to be kept down as long as it is actively invadimg and annexing lands and people that do not belong to them. Sanctions, arms deliveries to Ukraine, etc. Once they are defeated in their war aims and their leadership is replaced with those who do not have such ambitions to conquer other nations, I wish them every success and prosperity and would support something along the lines of the Marshall plan to help them rebuild a better, more humane society.

But I foresee much suffering for the people of Russia before they reach that point, unfortunately.
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by JSDD » Fri, 23. Sep 22, 00:20

Warenwolf wrote:
Fri, 23. Sep 22, 00:14
So color me skeptical about your non-bias...
neither zelenski nor putin ever paid me a beer ^^
honestly, i dont care about either one of em
i only care about my energy bill :P

>>> money makes the world go around <<< :D

good night :)
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by Observe » Fri, 23. Sep 22, 00:21

JSDD wrote:
Thu, 22. Sep 22, 23:31
i dont like both policies, neither russian nor ukrainian
what makes me (no angry but) "annoyed" is the bigotry of those (writing here in this forum) who support westerners unconditionally ... no matter what.
I think it's fair to say, that throughout human history, we've been handicapped by abuse of power, hypocrisy and bigotry. This war is playing out the same way wars have always done. Each side looks to allies for help and the enemy of my enemy is my friend.

In spite of every nation's dubious history, this is our time to decide what kind of world we want to live in. Clearly, contention between the ethnic groups involved in the Ukraine/Russia war have been long-standing and it seems unlikely those disagreements will be resolved no matter the outcome of this particular conflict.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by Falcrack » Fri, 23. Sep 22, 00:22

JSDD wrote:
Fri, 23. Sep 22, 00:20
Warenwolf wrote:
Fri, 23. Sep 22, 00:14
So color me skeptical about your non-bias...
neither zelenski nor putin ever paid me a beer ^^
honestly, i dont care about either one of em
i only care about my energy bill :P

>>> money makes the world go around <<< :D
So there you have it. Complete self-interest and lack of concern for anybody but themselves. That's no way to live.

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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by JSDD » Fri, 23. Sep 22, 00:33

Falcrack wrote:
Fri, 23. Sep 22, 00:22
JSDD wrote:
Fri, 23. Sep 22, 00:20
Warenwolf wrote:
Fri, 23. Sep 22, 00:14
So color me skeptical about your non-bias...
neither zelenski nor putin ever paid me a beer ^^
honestly, i dont care about either one of em
i only care about my energy bill :P

>>> money makes the world go around <<< :D
So there you have it. Complete self-interest and lack of concern for anybody but themselves. That's no way to live.
its called: "american way of life" .. dont care about my neighbour, only about those dollar bills :lol: *joking*
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by fiksal » Fri, 23. Sep 22, 01:15

Falcrack wrote:
Fri, 23. Sep 22, 00:10
fiksal wrote:
Thu, 22. Sep 22, 21:50
@Alm888

I admit, I am not the typical example of a Russian. Thanks for noting on the state of the economy though. All I get from 1TV and propaganda press is that how everything is peachy
Fiksal, you are my favorite Russian I have conversed with :)
Thanks, I appreciate it!
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Re: Russia-Ukraine War

Post by Falcrack » Fri, 23. Sep 22, 01:32

JSDD wrote:
Fri, 23. Sep 22, 00:33
Falcrack wrote:
Fri, 23. Sep 22, 00:22
JSDD wrote:
Fri, 23. Sep 22, 00:20


neither zelenski nor putin ever paid me a beer ^^
honestly, i dont care about either one of em
i only care about my energy bill :P

>>> money makes the world go around <<< :D
So there you have it. Complete self-interest and lack of concern for anybody but themselves. That's no way to live.
its called: "american way of life" .. dont care about my neighbour, only about those dollar bills :lol: *joking*
I would sacrifice all my dollar bills if it was what was required to ensure the freedom and safety of not just my children, but the children of strangers too. Because I believe everyone on this earth has an obligation to treat each other as brothers and sisters.

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