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Re: Random News not worthy of own thread

Post by mr.WHO » Wed, 16. Jun 21, 07:45

burger1 wrote:
Tue, 15. Jun 21, 18:15
Win 10 losing support in 2025. Win 11 coming.
https://www.laptopmag.com/news/windows- ... w-imminent
I wonder if they will offer free upgrade, like they did from Win7/8 to Win10.
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Re: Random News not worthy of own thread

Post by pjknibbs » Wed, 16. Jun 21, 07:48

So much for Windows 10 being the last version of Windows ever, I guess...

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Re: Random News not worthy of own thread

Post by mr.WHO » Wed, 16. Jun 21, 10:12

pjknibbs wrote:
Wed, 16. Jun 21, 07:48
So much for Windows 10 being the last version of Windows ever, I guess...
Unless it will be just an upgraded Win10 with fancy new name and option for free upgrade from Win10 for all users.

In last 2 years I saw plenty of articles about next new Windows and more or less they always say it's just a upgraded Win10 core with some more features (e.g. WIn for phones with two touch screens).

This would actually be somehow consistent.

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Post by greypanther » Wed, 16. Jun 21, 13:04

mr.WHO wrote:
Wed, 16. Jun 21, 10:12
pjknibbs wrote:
Wed, 16. Jun 21, 07:48
So much for Windows 10 being the last version of Windows ever, I guess...
This would actually be somehow consistent.
Surely though, it is still a lie? Another example of repairing something, even though it is not broken, just for profitsssss my precious? :evil:
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Post by Mightysword » Wed, 16. Jun 21, 17:22

greypanther wrote:
Wed, 16. Jun 21, 13:04
Surely though, it is still a lie? Another example of repairing something, even though it is not broken, just for profitsssss my precious? :evil:
What profit though? They gave everyone 2 (or 3 years) of free upgrade, and I heard you can push for it after that. In fact I just upgrade to win 10 this years and I paid ... $20? It maybe a hip thing to crap on evil cooperations but you know ... sometime it's just necessary. It's not like technology both good and bad (hackers) gonna just stands still because MS stop putting out new Windows.

Free to peanut cost for a critical product that comes with a decade of free upgrade, I don't think it's worth to complain ... unless you're working as an IT for a large company and have to deal with upgrade/migration, but that's your job and it's hardly exclusive with Windows but any operating system, include non-profit opensource.
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Re: Random News not worthy of own thread

Post by felter » Wed, 16. Jun 21, 19:19

Alan Phipps wrote:
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@ felter: I'm just curious, so would you rather that Boris did not take a stance on inequality at the G7 Summit? :?
I don't think they (the G7) understands what inequality actually is, especially Boris, I'm sure if you asked him what inequality is he would come out with something along the lines of:
Oxford Dictionary wrote:the unfair situation in society when some people have more opportunities, money, etc. than other people:
But if you were to ask him to clarify it with an example, I'm sure he would struggle to give a coherent answer. His own life has been about inequality and he doesn't even see it, he even practices it all the time as he treats certain people with not a thought or care and I can give a prime example: Today Katherine Rowley a deaf campaigner started legal action against Johnson's government over the lack of a sign language interpreter at his nationwide covid briefings. Both the Scottish Government a Welsh Government never had that issue with interpreters on hand at all briefings but not at any of Johnsons. And to top it all off, rather than admitting they made a mistake, they are trying to defend what they did, with some lame excuses and ignorance. Now that's a prime example of inequality and it is only one there are a lot more surrounding Boris.
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Re: Random News not worthy of own thread

Post by Alan Phipps » Wed, 16. Jun 21, 21:54

You didn't really answer my question. Whatever Boris personally is or isn't (and I leave that as probably subject to entrenched individual opinion and therefore not really up for debate here), surely it is better that a powerful body such as the G7 at least consider and discuss some equality measures, rather than ignore it all and carry on as before?
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Re: Random News not worthy of own thread

Post by BaronVerde » Thu, 17. Jun 21, 10:10

Plug it into the browser's search bar, various articels name the G7 summit 'a total fail' to address inequality, climate change, or in short, what is intended for. Those guys don't do their work. Insofar, I think it is safe to classify them as "a waste of carbon" (after one probably well known NPC :-)) and their words as meaningless and distracting.

Random news item, from the moderate side:
https://edition.cnn.com/2021/06/11/uk/c ... index.html

Hey, I am not trying to be divisive, just love to debate 8)

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Re: Random News not worthy of own thread

Post by burger1 » Thu, 24. Jun 21, 23:15

It looks like windows 11 might have some different hardware requirements than 10? Haven't really looked into it yet just reposting. Looks like you can bypass some of the requirements maybe through various means.

CPU: a 1 GHz or faster dual-core or higher 64-bit processor or System on a Chip
Memory: 4 GB RAM
Storage: 64 GB
TPM: Trusted Platform Module (TPM) version 2.0
Graphics card: DirectX 12 compatible graphics / WDDM 2.x
Display: A greater than 9-inch display of 720p or higher

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Re: Random News not worthy of own thread

Post by Vertigo 7 » Fri, 25. Jun 21, 01:30

Yeah, they're dropping legacy bios and 32 bit platforms completely. Secure Boot and TPM 2.0 seem to be the gate keepers for moving to 11. Free upgrade if you meet the requirements, at least.

I do like what I saw, though. Seems like they've done much to maximize the desktop experience. I'm interested to play around with the new snapping feature... 3 monitors on my desk and still seem to run out of space for stuff.
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Re: Random News not worthy of own thread

Post by pjknibbs » Fri, 25. Jun 21, 08:27

Vertigo 7 wrote:
Fri, 25. Jun 21, 01:30
I do like what I saw, though. Seems like they've done much to maximize the desktop experience. I'm interested to play around with the new snapping feature... 3 monitors on my desk and still seem to run out of space for stuff.
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Re: Random News not worthy of own thread

Post by CBJ » Fri, 25. Jun 21, 09:30

I was starting to get vaguely interested in Windows 11 until I read the specifications page, particularly the parts where it says it requires a Microsoft account to install, and where it lists all the things that have been removed from the Start menu and the Taskbar. I can't imagine the first of those changing, and I'll be avoiding it for as long as is practical on that basis, but I'd hope that in the meantime, customer feedback might at least get them to reconsider this latest in their long line of attempts to prevent users from setting up their desktop for productivity instead of just aesthetics.

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Re: Random News not worthy of own thread

Post by Redvers Ganderpoke » Fri, 25. Jun 21, 10:44

Looks like some of my perfectly usable pcs won't upgrade, so might have to switch them to Linux eventually.
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Re: Random News not worthy of own thread

Post by Vertigo 7 » Fri, 25. Jun 21, 12:01

CBJ wrote:
Fri, 25. Jun 21, 09:30
I was starting to get vaguely interested in Windows 11 until I read the specifications page, particularly the parts where it says it requires a Microsoft account to install, and where it lists all the things that have been removed from the Start menu and the Taskbar. I can't imagine the first of those changing, and I'll be avoiding it for as long as is practical on that basis, but I'd hope that in the meantime, customer feedback might at least get them to reconsider this latest in their long line of attempts to prevent users from setting up their desktop for productivity instead of just aesthetics.
Betcha anything that's so activations are tied to an account you own so you don't have to deal with reactivation issues. That's something they added to Windows 10 and has made moving to a new machine or making hardware changes to a current one a non-issue as far as Windows licensing is concerned. I've gone through hardware upgrades and new builds myself and all it took was for me to sign in with my MS account and the license transferred right away.
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Re: Random News not worthy of own thread

Post by BaronVerde » Fri, 25. Jun 21, 12:20

I really see no reason (except for the hardcore gamers) not to switch to Linux at least on a private PC. With all the documentation, different desktops, free development environment, all of a sudden, the machine is much more transparent, responsive, controllable and will make fun again :-)

May I suggest to newcomers to try out Debian stable and the XFCE desktop. With a bit of reason during partitioning (separate home and root, and keep your work in separate directory structures so you can easily backup without having to care for specific configuration files), installing another flavour or desktop is just a lunch brake.

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