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Re: Trump

Post by Mightysword » Fri, 20. Sep 19, 02:38

Chips wrote:
Fri, 20. Sep 19, 02:05
Any initial starters on the ones who are unaligned? Any initial polls that indicate Trump is in trouble, or the opposite?
Perhaps I had misinterpreted your question, or perhaps what you were asking weren't clear enough, or simply were open enough that it can be interpreted differently then what you originally intended. I'm simply point out that even if all Democrat vote Democrat and all Republican vote Republican -which actually doesn't happen btw, part of the reason Hilary lost because she lost area that had voted Democrat for decades- ultimately it's still gonna be the independent voters that decided, the affiliated voters don't have the number to carry their own party for either side.

Which - I should remind you - it is the context of the current discussion about "what is the better candidate". Which pretty much all the posts on the pages are talking about. To affiliated maybe that's an irrelevant question, but to independent voters that's an important and valid statement. Your post came in the middle of that, so I don't think it's too unreasonable for me to assume it is within the same frame of the current topic, or is it? And if it's not what you meant, that's fine, simply seek clarification, or correction if you believe you were misunderstood. :)

You've managed to not only fail to answer the question, but answered a non existent question in the belief that you're answering a question.
An example of an unrare talent indeed!
But I guess for a thread that's constantly talk about Trump, it's natural for his 'style' to have an influence here. :wink:

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Re: Trump

Post by Grim Lock » Fri, 20. Sep 19, 12:43

I think you'll enjoy this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S0FDjFBj8o
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Re: Trump

Post by Vertigo 7 » Fri, 20. Sep 19, 14:44

Grim Lock wrote:
Fri, 20. Sep 19, 12:43
I think you'll enjoy this one:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8S0FDjFBj8o
If it wasn't for sentences being formed from coherent thoughts, this would be identical to any Trump speech.

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Re: Trump

Post by RegisterMe » Fri, 20. Sep 19, 16:01

So what do we all think about the brewing kerfuffle over this "senior intelligence whistle blower" (and them being prevented from using the whistle blowing process to talk to Congress by the DoJ)?
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Re: Trump

Post by fiksal » Fri, 20. Sep 19, 16:09

RegisterMe wrote:
Fri, 20. Sep 19, 01:59
This dialogue here is the crux of it.

Not all Trump voters are Redneck hillbilly coal mining climate changing denying race-baiters. Just as not all Democrat voters are lilly livered liberals (socialist in disguise) with identity issues.

The way forward likely involves some kind of middle ground. The world will be a better place when America gets its head around this and votes accordingly.

I dont know. Maybe?
I am less optimistic on that scenario. I've talked enough to Trump supporters and zero of them wanted anything offered by democrats, liberals or else. Most want to fight communists and have camps for media and undesirable immigrants. So.

I dont refer to Trump supporters as redneck hillbillies, (I refer to them as something else), and I can see that I have zero in common with them. I have no wish to see Democrats bend backwards to their wishes. The party needs to grow a back bone, that's what I hope for. Republicans are useless and no other party can move up currently.

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Re: Trump

Post by Grim Lock » Fri, 20. Sep 19, 17:48

RegisterMe wrote:
Fri, 20. Sep 19, 16:01
So what do we all think about the brewing kerfuffle over this "senior intelligence whistle blower" (and them being prevented from using the whistle blowing process to talk to Congress by the DoJ)?
Nothing until i ran into this latest tweet from the stable genius:

"....Knowing all of this, is anybody dumb enough to believe that I would say something inappropriate with a foreign leader while on such a potentially “heavily populated” call. I would only do what is right anyway, and only do good for the USA!"


:lol: In Trump's universe where bad is good, smart is dumb, i'm happy to say, i'm dumb indeed.
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Re: Trump

Post by Vertigo 7 » Fri, 20. Sep 19, 19:13

RegisterMe wrote:
Fri, 20. Sep 19, 16:01
So what do we all think about the brewing kerfuffle over this "senior intelligence whistle blower" (and them being prevented from using the whistle blowing process to talk to Congress by the DoJ)?
The DoJ trying to prevent this from going to congress really stinks of a cover up to me. Intelligence Oversight has all of the clearances necessary to review any information in the report so there's no good reason for the DoJ attempting to bury it. The only conclusion to draw is they're protecting Trump.

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Re: Trump

Post by BugMeister » Fri, 20. Sep 19, 21:21

- apparently it's something to do with Ukraine..
- the whole universe is running in BETA mode - we're working on it.. beep..!! :D :thumb_up:

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Re: Trump

Post by felter » Fri, 20. Sep 19, 22:27

Ukraine again, now that's a place that keeps on cropping up since before he was elected.
I'm not saying he is a Russian asset, I'm saying he sat on his asset when he was supposed to be confronting Putin.
He will not be re-elected. Without a wall, he will only be remembered as a small cartoon figure who briefly inflamed and amused the rabble.

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Re: Trump

Post by Masterbagger » Sat, 21. Sep 19, 01:30

RegisterMe wrote:
Fri, 20. Sep 19, 16:01
So what do we all think about the brewing kerfuffle over this "senior intelligence whistle blower" (and them being prevented from using the whistle blowing process to talk to Congress by the DoJ)?
This is democrats giving people a squirrel to chase. I know Schiff to have relentlessly lied over the last few years to delegitimize Trump. If he is involved then I have to question the accusations when there is bias as a motive. It reminds me that Justice Kavanaugh smears surfaced again last week with completely unverifiable claims. A few years ago no reputable journalist would have run a story on that source and a claim that can't be corroborated. Trump changed all of the rules. Dems know that their most enthusiastic supporters crave something to be angry about. They have to keep delivering something to keep the outrage going. Now they are going to virtue signal about whistle blowers to keep the false outrage alive.

None of this is going to go anywhere but the real purpose behind it is to make people angry and receptive to the false impeachment hope the dems are going to dangle. I think they know they can't stop him in 2020 but they can't show themselves to have given up. To do that would be to accept that Trump won and that is one thing the democrats can't do. They have not conceded the 2016 election when the next is right around the corner. The only definitive thing that can be said is that we are all living in interesting times.
fiksal wrote:
Fri, 20. Sep 19, 16:09

I dont know. Maybe?
I am less optimistic on that scenario. I've talked enough to Trump supporters and zero of them wanted anything offered by democrats, liberals or else. Most want to fight communists and have camps for media and undesirable immigrants. So.

I dont refer to Trump supporters as redneck hillbillies, (I refer to them as something else), and I can see that I have zero in common with them. I have no wish to see Democrats bend backwards to their wishes. The party needs to grow a back bone, that's what I hope for. Republicans are useless and no other party can move up currently.
You are sort of correct. I don't want anything to do with democrats as they are now but they aren't offering me anything. They are demanding. They need something from me and they don't think I should be able to refuse them. They are mad as hell that I even have that option now and the lack of power to make me do what they command is manifesting as intense personal hatred being projected. I don't think disagreement should mean we have to hate each other. I won't compromise with anyone that thinks I don't have the right to disagree and says vile things about my character for daring to do it.
Who made that man a gunner?

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Re: Trump

Post by Vertigo 7 » Sat, 21. Sep 19, 07:57

Masterbagger wrote:
Sat, 21. Sep 19, 01:30
You are sort of correct. I don't want anything to do with democrats as they are now but they aren't offering me anything. They are demanding. They need something from me and they don't think I should be able to refuse them. They are mad as hell that I even have that option now and the lack of power to make me do what they command is manifesting as intense personal hatred being projected. I don't think disagreement should mean we have to hate each other. I won't compromise with anyone that thinks I don't have the right to disagree and says vile things about my character for daring to do it.
Can you have any other character but vile when you support a known racist, sexual deviant, and misogynist?

IF on the 1 in a million chance, you are not any of those things yourself, you've already compromised your own character just by standing up for that bastard. If you can't see that, I truly pity you.

Any individual with any sense of decency would condemn that horrid man and those that support him. There is no room to negotiate or compromise with any one in that camp regardless of political affiliation.

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Re: Trump

Post by fiksal » Sun, 22. Sep 19, 05:14

Masterbagger wrote:
Sat, 21. Sep 19, 01:30
You are sort of correct.
Yep, I think indeed I am.
Masterbagger wrote:
Sat, 21. Sep 19, 01:30
I don't think disagreement should mean we have to hate each other.
Speaking generally, hatred is also can be earned.

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Re: Trump

Post by BugMeister » Tue, 24. Sep 19, 10:59

history on the Supreme Court and judicial machinations..
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EboKyQQ8wOk

Trump (- and McConnell, et al) appears to be using the age-old fascistic/authoritarian method of gaining political control through legal manipulation..
- hence their clear stuffing of the Supreme bench.. (Kavanaugh et al..)

- however, since the recent revelations regarding Trump's treacherous attempt to enlist foreign support for his personal domestic cause..
- the only remaining option is to initiate full and urgent impeachment enquiries into Donald Trump's presidency, for reasons of National Security..

- the US electorate also needs to know how and why Trump was selected for candidacy by the Republicans, in the first place.. :gruebel: :gruebel:
- the whole universe is running in BETA mode - we're working on it.. beep..!! :D :thumb_up:

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Re: Trump

Post by Grim Lock » Tue, 24. Sep 19, 12:35

Now if i was an American republican that isn't a Trumpian i would be very worried about the next president after Trump, no matter who it's going to be, one clear message everyone has received by now is that an US president can do pretty much whatever and not be held accountable, sure Trumpians might be cheering Trumps corrupt, racist, retarded actions while it's working for them, but the next democratic president will also know that there's a lot of options they didn't even consider before Trumps retarded presidency.
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Re: Trump

Post by Vertigo 7 » Tue, 24. Sep 19, 14:25

Grim Lock wrote:
Tue, 24. Sep 19, 12:35
Now if i was an American republican that isn't a Trumpian i would be very worried about the next president after Trump, no matter who it's going to be, one clear message everyone has received by now is that an US president can do pretty much whatever and not be held accountable, sure Trumpians might be cheering Trumps corrupt, racist, retarded actions while it's working for them, but the next democratic president will also know that there's a lot of options they didn't even consider before Trumps retarded presidency.
Oooo you know, deportation of the Trumpanzies would be great!

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