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Post by X2-Illuminatus » Sun, 4. Mar 12, 19:12

fighter dave wrote:If I go to Egosoft shop they seem to only interested in eurozone countries
While all prices are written in Euro, clicking on the "Other Currencies"-link opens a site that lets you convert the Euro price to other currencies. Also, after adding a product to your shopping card you can select countries all around the world as the shipping address.

Regarding the languages:
product description of X3AP Addon/War Pack in Egosoft shop wrote: Voiced languages: English, German, French
Text-only language: Italian (using English voice)
That means that English, German and French voice and text translations are included. For Italian there is only a text translation. So that Italian players don't have to talk with speechless NPCs, the English voice is also used, when you play the game(s) in Italian.
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Post by aiday » Tue, 6. Mar 12, 05:12

I have Steam installed on my D: drive, and the X-Gold discs. I checked the FAQ section but that does not tell me where in the "steamapps" path I need to install the X3TC files prior to using the TC-AP add-on retail pack (that is, just the AP update).

I've also been told that the "no Steam" executable is now available, but can't find it on this website.

Please can somebody tell me what the path should be for installing into the Steam client, and where I can find the executable. Thanks in advance for any help,
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Post by Morkonan » Tue, 6. Mar 12, 05:44

aiday wrote:...I've also been told that the "no Steam" executable is now available, but can't find it on this website....
I am very interested in this, as well. If the no-steam .exe is out there, I'll be willing to download and install Steam once, just to get AP, after which I'll uninstall Steam.

(Yeah, I know I won't be able to patch it after I remove Steam, IIRC.)

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Post by David Howland » Tue, 6. Mar 12, 09:21

I asked this on the Rebirth - Steam thread last week! CBJ said it would be approx. a fortnight!
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Post by greypanther » Fri, 9. Mar 12, 14:38

Well, its the 9th, its retail release day in the UK isn't it?

Perhaps someone could tell the bloody retailers that! I can find it no where! I am very, very unimpressed! :evil:
If this is the publishers best attempt at a retail sale, then they are crap publishers! I will NOT buy through Steam. I will use steam as I have for Skyrim, but only if I can buy a retail boxed copy!

WTF? There is no trace on Amazon, though perversely I can order Rebirth! No trace on the gamestation site. On the game site I can buy it but only as a download!

I had hoped to get it on Amazon as I have an acount with them with money ready to go. It would seem that Amazon is a too small retailer in the eyes of the publisher? :roll:
At the moment it looks like I will be keeping my £20 and not playing AP. :(

If Rebirth release is handled this badly, looks like I will save some money there as well.

Have I got accross how disapointed I am?
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Post by Jumee » Fri, 9. Mar 12, 14:41

greypanther wrote:Well, its the 9th, its retail release day in the UK isn't it?

Perhaps someone could tell the bloody retailers that! I can find it no where! I am very, very unimpressed! :evil:
If this is the publishers best attempt at a retail sale, then they are crap publishers! I will NOT buy through Steam. I will use steam as I have for Skyrim, but only if I can buy a retail boxed copy!

WTF? There is no trace on Amazon, though perversely I can order Rebirth! No trace on the gamestation site. On the game site I can buy it but only as a download!

I had hoped to get it on Amazon as I have an acount with them with money ready to go. It would seem that Amazon is a too small retailer in the eyes of the publisher? :roll:
At the moment it looks like I will be keeping my £20 and not playing AP. :(

If Rebirth release is handled this badly, looks like I will save some money there as well.

Have I got accross how disapointed I am?
cant you just order through Egosoft shop? or have they ran out of copies or something?

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Post by greypanther » Fri, 9. Mar 12, 17:00

Well, yes and no. :roll:
Yes technically I could, but I have a budget for games and at the moment that budget lives in an Amazon account. Money is not unlimited for me. :wink:

I would also have to get a new pre pay credit card to do so, as there is no way I am using my proper card online at the moment. :)

Is it worth the effort? :gruebel:

I would also say it has made me nervous regarding the release of Rebirth, though as I stated above, I CAN buy that now on Amazon! Go figure! :roll:
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Post by David Howland » Fri, 9. Mar 12, 17:30

What you have to remember Jumee, is that some of us grew up in the days before internet shopping! Back in those days the only mail retail were catalogues, half the stuff bought through those was cheap rubbish. The only people who used to habitually use this method of retail were, people living in isolation or poor folk who could not afford to use 'proper' shops.
The situation is a little better on the internet but although much of the tat has disapeared thieves and fraudsters have grown to take their place. So oldies will only consider purchasing from trusted names like Amazon and Game. Now you might retort, that you were suggesting the Egosoft shop, surely an X player will trust Egosoft? Well two years ago when ES believed in retail and rental systems, there would be no doubt? However since the announcement of RB in January last year we have had to campaign voraciously for a steam free disk game. The closest we have got is the steam dependant AP disk? Do you really wonder that old loyal fans are thinking twice about buying the disk from the internet shop of the company, that never wanted to produce this disk and resents having been bullied into it?
That is a brief history of Mail Retail over!
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Post by greypanther » Fri, 9. Mar 12, 17:35

Amazon has another big advantage, you can get gift vouchers for them in high street shops. No credit card needed! :)

Which is where my Amazon budget came from: my wife + gift vouchers ( lots ) + Christmas = happy me! :)
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Post by darkest_majick » Fri, 9. Mar 12, 19:54

greypanther wrote:Well, its the 9th, its retail release day in the UK isn't it?

Perhaps someone could tell the bloody retailers that! I can find it no where! I am very, very unimpressed! :evil:
If this is the publishers best attempt at a retail sale, then they are crap publishers! I will NOT buy through Steam. I will use steam as I have for Skyrim, but only if I can buy a retail boxed copy!

WTF? There is no trace on Amazon, though perversely I can order Rebirth! No trace on the gamestation site. On the game site I can buy it but only as a download!

I had hoped to get it on Amazon as I have an acount with them with money ready to go. It would seem that Amazon is a too small retailer in the eyes of the publisher? :roll:
At the moment it looks like I will be keeping my £20 and not playing AP. :(

If Rebirth release is handled this badly, looks like I will save some money there as well.

Have I got accross how disapointed I am?
In the UK Zavvi appear to have stock: http://www.zavvi.com/games/platforms/pc ... 84181.html. I saw it on Amazon UK and Play.com yesterday but they seem to have sold out already. Only others I've seen selling it are the Egosoft shop and some sellers on Amazon (£25 a time though). Otherwise it's downloads on Steam etc. Good luck to everyone looking for a copy on disc!

It does also appear you can get your pre-orders in for Rebirth on Amazon!

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Post by greypanther » Fri, 9. Mar 12, 20:10

Well that is very odd. I have looked every day for the past several weeks on Amazon and seen no trace of AP. ( I was hoping to pre-order. ) :gruebel:

I looked at Zavvi earlier and again got negative results. Same for Gamestation and Game. :(

I guess I will keep looking. Until I get fed up with the messing, after all its only one game of many that I wish to play, whats more its only an update of TC really. :roll:

*edit* Just looked again now and there it is 3 copies on Amazon! £19.99
:? ah but out of stock at that price, so yes £25 it is then!
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Post by darkest_majick » Fri, 9. Mar 12, 20:24

The online stores all seem to be really slow at getting the terran war pack listed. I had the same problem earlier in the week so I placed my order with Egosoft. Searching for something else on Amazon I noticed it had appeared in my recommendations. This was last night; they must have sold out pretty fast. I remember having the same issues with the Superbox.

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Post by greypanther » Fri, 9. Mar 12, 20:36

Well, thank you anyway, your post prompted me to look again and there it was! :)
Alls forgiven deepsilver, for now. :roll:
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Release Date?

Post by David Howland » Mon, 12. Mar 12, 12:21

Have we a release date yet for the 'get rid of Steam.exe'?
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Post by CBJ » Mon, 12. Mar 12, 12:44

Hopefully this week.

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Post by vtecem » Mon, 12. Mar 12, 16:23

I ordered my Terran War Pack in the Egoshop on the 23rd of February... I haven't received any tracking info or anything letting me know it has shipped. Any idea when it will be shipped to me?

I do have a confirmation email that it was purchased.

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Post by CBJ » Mon, 12. Mar 12, 16:31

I don't think anyone who reads the forum can answer that. You need to send a mail to orders@egosoft.com to ask about that kind of thing.

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Albion Prelude on unconnected PC

Post by eladan » Tue, 13. Mar 12, 09:37

It's a shame that Albion Prelude is steam only - steam isn't a good solution for everyone - though I understand the reasoning for it.

Something which the FAQ doesn't cover. My gaming PC has no internet connection at all. The PC I am typing this on has one, but is not used as a gaming PC. What is the possibility of being able to install and activate the game on this PC, and then move some/all files to a non-activated install on the gaming PC with the non-steam exe. Would this work?

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Post by Firewrath » Tue, 13. Mar 12, 12:50

I just want to note here, that I have dialup and even with that, rather limited net access currently. For instance, I Just read the 'X-Universe News #48'.

At the bottom of which I was ...unhappy to see the Steam requirement for AP. So after looking, checking the last/current page of this thread, and seeing these comments:
David Howland wrote:Have we a release date yet for the 'get rid of Steam.exe'?
CBJ wrote:Hopefully this week.
I must say that I was Extremely happy to hear that, and as such was going to buy whatever retail box I could find for AP (even with my currently limited budget) Purely because of the release of such an .exe for the game.

However I read a few pages back just to find out more information about such a patch and seen this:
CBJ wrote:As explained in the FAQ, you need a Steam account to install the game. The NoSteam EXE simply provides a means to play the game without Steam once the game is installed and activated. If you are not prepared to set up a Steam account at all then you won't be able to play X3AP.
Now I have a Steam account, but as noted in other threads, I have issues with Steam. Just for reference, I've had Steam since day one of it's release, so it's not like I havnt tried it, or don't know how it works.
I say that because of this:
Steam FAQ wrote: We are aware that at least some of the people who take the decision not to use Steam "on principle" are doing so on the basis of inaccurate information or misundertandings about the nature and limitations of Steam, and we would urge those people to read the rest of this FAQ carefully before making their decision.
Now I've also read Egosofts reason for using Steam, and I understand where you are coming from business-wise, but I was a sure sell for AP before I read the absolute Steam requirement. Now though I can't say that I will purchase AP, even with the 'NoSteam.exe'. One big reason is that I do not like having to download and install a large software suite that I will Never use onto my PC just to play one game, and yes, I can say I'll never use it because I do have other games on my Steam account, but it and those games are not currently installed on my PC, havn't been for a long time and wont be any time soon.

I know I'm just one lost buy* VS the newer 'larger audience' and that statistically I don't matter, but I just wanted to throw this up and have a say anyways.


(*I'll admit the 'NoSteam.exe' has me tempted to buy AP, but with no guarantee that it'll be updated and all AP patch updates released only through Steam, it seems unlikely.
However maybe Steam will wiseup to people like me and release a client that only validates game installs, patches games, isnt 200-300megs and doesn't have to be run constantly to play the games.
...Ya know, like Impulse. :P)

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Post by ThommoHawk » Wed, 14. Mar 12, 06:45

My Albion Prelude War Pack arrived from EGOSOFT today :)
(Edit: actually it is the 'X3Terran War Pack', - did not mean to confuse anyone - I think of it as AP)

I might find someone to gift it to as I already have it on steam.

Thanks Egosoft-folks.

I support egosoft :lol: Looking forward now to X REBIRTH
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