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Xenon?

Posted: Sun, 10. Aug 08, 00:14
by Naferius
Are the Xenon some kind of robots like Cylons from battlestar galactica or something. They seems really mysterious :xenon: I have seen some of them eject and the astronaut in the suit is Unknown entity pretty strange...

edited cuz i missed "few" words :oops:

Re: Xenon?

Posted: Sun, 10. Aug 08, 00:30
by Gazz
There are definitely some strange life forms in this universe.

Posted: Sun, 10. Aug 08, 00:59
by yourpowersareweakoldman
I think they are just computers in X3.

Whenever I have seen them "Eject" there is never an Astronaut.

I think it's cause one of your shots got lucky and disabled the ships central processor. Or at least that's what I tell myself as an excuse to capture Xenon ships.

Posted: Sun, 10. Aug 08, 02:16
by Naferius
I didn't do a screen back then :oops: But anyway I was checking this topic: http://forum.egosoft.com/viewtopic.php?t=206237

Posted: Sun, 10. Aug 08, 07:49
by pjknibbs
If you ever see an astronaut left behind after a Xenon ship bails, it's a bug--that's not supposed to happen.

Posted: Sun, 10. Aug 08, 09:44
by SVAndrei
Here's a good one: If the ship is commanded by a Computer, how come it has a cockpit? I doubt the Xenon just put it in there just in case their ship gets captured.

That is why i never use Xenon ships as personal ships.

Posted: Sun, 10. Aug 08, 09:49
by nman
SVAndrei wrote:Here's a good one: If the ship is commanded by a Computer, how come it has a cockpit? I doubt the Xenon just put it in there just in case their ship gets captured.

That is why i never use Xenon ships as personal ships.
Maybe you just automatically rip out the cooling units for the main Xenon computer, and put in windows (the clear see-through stuff, not the OS), life support, a cockpit, comms, artificial gravity, targeting software, etc...

Posted: Sun, 10. Aug 08, 09:55
by jordan kirwan
Maybe you just automatically rip out the cooling units for the main Xenon computer, and put in windows (the clear see-through stuff, not the OS), life support, a cockpit, comms, artificial gravity, targeting software, etc...
yeah im sure you do
Here's a good one: If the ship is commanded by a Computer, how come it has a cockpit? I doubt the Xenon just put it in there just in case their ship gets captured.
i read i another post that the xenon dont have enough self awareness to realize they dont need a cockpit

Posted: Sun, 10. Aug 08, 10:00
by SVAndrei
nman wrote:
SVAndrei wrote:Here's a good one: If the ship is commanded by a Computer, how come it has a cockpit? I doubt the Xenon just put it in there just in case their ship gets captured.

That is why i never use Xenon ships as personal ships.
Maybe you just automatically rip out the cooling units for the main Xenon computer, and put in windows (the clear see-through stuff, not the OS), life support, a cockpit, comms, artificial gravity, targeting software, etc...
And you do all his while out in your space suit, and in a few seconds too? With no assistance from a shipyard, as well. :D

Posted: Sun, 10. Aug 08, 10:22
by beyer_garratt
Windows XP -> Windows Vista -> Skynet -> Xenon1.0 -> Xenon OS we know today.
Xenon was a self-aware OS designed to run advanced autopilot operations on par with human pilots that went wrong, killing its creators and replicating itself into the secret prototype ships we now identify as Xenon, which were the ships the original tests of the OS were conducted in.

Xenon knows exactly what materials are required to build each ship, and it also contains information on how to make advanced materials such as alloys, which were stored in data banks in the original prototypes.

Incidentally, Xenon is a single entity, a computer operating system, thus saying 'The Xenon' is a bit of a grammatical faux pass. :wink:

The reason Xenon ships all have cockpits is because the OS was designed to operate with one, an attribute Xenon has not 'bred' out yet. In fact, Xenon builds its ships to the exact same blueprint that it 'ran away' with, hence all ships are equipped with fully functional cockpits.

Also, despite not having had a human in their ships for many jazuras, every Xenon ship is built with fully functioning space suits, which were included in the original blueprints for the Xenon test ships. What the opening poster describes is one of these suits being ejected by Xenon itself, which was built with automatic pilot ejection upon system failure/damage etc.

The suit is pressurized with oxygen, hence the reason it seems to maintain its shape even in space.

You know you have way too much spare time when you make the effort to think things like this through thoroughly.

Posted: Sun, 10. Aug 08, 10:34
by Gazz
Wow! That's a fine piece of technobabble!

Posted: Sun, 10. Aug 08, 13:27
by SVAndrei
The scary part is that it actually makes perfect sense. :lol:

Posted: Sun, 10. Aug 08, 13:37
by Shadowbourne
Egosoft should employ you as a press/community relations officer (spin doctor) to come up with good reasons for all of their 'undocumented features' :D

Posted: Sun, 10. Aug 08, 14:37
by jordan kirwan
Windows XP -> Windows Vista -> Skynet -> Xenon1.0 -> Xenon OS we know today.
Xenon was a self-aware OS designed to run advanced autopilot operations on par with human pilots that went wrong, killing its creators and replicating itself into the secret prototype ships we now identify as Xenon, which were the ships the original tests of the OS were conducted in.

Xenon knows exactly what materials are required to build each ship, and it also contains information on how to make advanced materials such as alloys, which were stored in data banks in the original prototypes.

Incidentally, Xenon is a single entity, a computer operating system, thus saying 'The Xenon' is a bit of a grammatical faux pass.

The reason Xenon ships all have cockpits is because the OS was designed to operate with one, an attribute Xenon has not 'bred' out yet. In fact, Xenon builds its ships to the exact same blueprint that it 'ran away' with, hence all ships are equipped with fully functional cockpits.

Also, despite not having had a human in their ships for many jazuras, every Xenon ship is built with fully functioning space suits, which were included in the original blueprints for the Xenon test ships. What the opening poster describes is one of these suits being ejected by Xenon itself, which was built with automatic pilot ejection upon system failure/damage etc.

The suit is pressurized with oxygen, hence the reason it seems to maintain its shape even in space.

You know you have way too much spare time when you make the effort to think things like this through thoroughly.
wow :o
that is a pice of amazing BS

Posted: Sun, 10. Aug 08, 16:22
by BeavelGuy
its been a while since I played the first game...
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but dont the Xenon have their roots in the original terraformer fleet sent out by the Earth to prepare planets for colonisation, which subsequently went rogue, and started a war with Earth (which was only saved by Nathan R. Gunne's last-ditch feint drawing the terraformer fleet through a jumpgate into the current X universe, spawning the argon race and the goner religion)?
if so it would make sense to say that the Xenon havent quite realised that cockpits arent technically required in spacecraft, although you would think that anything they designed from the ground up would have omitted them :) maybe all xenon ships are based on the work of their own designers... or maybe Egosoft just thought it would be cool to let us fly them :twisted: